He has not.Tim Van Rijthofen has ,beating him Btw Mannarino can be tricky player on grass ,his junkballing can frustrate anyone , he was close to eliminating RF at W until injury forced him to retire.
A world #1 and slam winner who is viewed as “the best of his generation” losing in consecutive tournaments shows the strength and depth of the field.
I heard he’s not going to play any tournaments but will practice on Mallorca’s grass courts.
parity doesn't exist in the slams when only old players can win. Novak's closest competition on grass in the past 4 years was a near 40 year old Federer.
But we got to know etchiwhatevs in the qf.
To be clear, I made this thread solely because I don’t like Medvedev, think he’s overrated, and he pisses me off, not because of any other ulterior motive.
Ok.
People have been complaining about the field since like 2018/2019 at least.
The complaints have just gotten louder recently.
Meh, they've been loud since at least 2021 IMO. The complaints are richly deserved though, even for neutral observers I should think, though of course some of it is definitely sour grapes at this point.The complaints have just gotten louder recently.
There's no denying on the weakness of the grass field though.
Tbh, Van Rijthoven was probably the 3rd or 4th best player on grass last season. He even gave Djokovic a tougher match than basically anyone had since 2019.
Much obliged!
It's beyond me how can anyone think this is not a weak field. I wonder if you care about tennis at all.
The thing is, don't say the field is strengthening because of upcoming ATG Alcaraz which is what I've been hearing this year and while Alcaraz and Medvedev were winning everything, then it's back to weak once Djokovic takes another Slam.
Yes, agreed at least since 2020.
Make that since 2015 (as in after it).
Aww hush. Anytime Nadal is not winning you have a problem.
More like 2014, and for a good reason. That was the beginning of the weak era, as two big 3 players were already past their primes. But nobody could predict how bad it will become later.
2016 was a still strong field. 2017 was pretty weak. 2018 > 2017. 2019 < 2018. Then 2020, all the great players were basically retired or way out form except Djokovic and a couple of others like Berrettini and Kyrgios.
Anyone who said it should not be taken seriously. Alcaraz vultured a few titles beating the likes of Struff. And once he finally got a real challenge, he couldn't last for more than 2 sets. I think it's clear Alcaraz would hardly be relevant if he even had Thiem's competition on clay. Not even talking about prime Nadal.
I don't consider post-prime Berdych and Raonic a strong field.
And Tsonga, Murray, Federer, Cilic (who should have beaten Federer imo), etc. It definitely wasn't a weak field.
Well, I'm only looking from the perspective of the Wimb winner. Murray didn't deal with any of those.
Well the field is more than who the winner played.
Funny how you forgot to mention Querrey.
Yeah just like how djoko dudes are defending 1st round of losses of Next Gen mugs to inflate their idols achievements in last 4 years.
Yes and Querrey. He was in good form too.Funny how you forgot to mention Querrey.
Sarcasm could have been little bit better
Yes field was weaker in 2017 with Nadal,Federer,Murray,Stan but now it is stronger because of the GLOAT Djokovic dominating by straight setting legends like Tsitsipas,Rudd,Medvedev,Norrie,Fuscovis,Rublev
It was , tennis is evolving, some can't keep up...
Stan and Murray got injured and were never the same again after RG 2017. Probably not the best argument.
There is no agreement Djokovic is the GLOAT of the current era
Whatever makes you feel better bud.
