Antonio Puente
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Apparently on ESPN Cahill said Fed would not have beaten Rafa with the way he played today.
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Darren Cahill - Fed Would Not Have Beaten Rafa
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The-Fed-Express
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Darren Cahill is an idiot.
kobe3pointer
Semi-Pro
Agreed... ...
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
Is he indirectly saying that roger played rather badly today? If he is, I think he is sort of not giving credit to andy.
Turning Pro
Hall of Fame
He's right, 6-2 in slams and he's beaten him in the last 3 slams across 3 different surfaces without playing his best at all besides the French 08 victory. Nadal just get's in Fed's head. Plus he got extended to 5 sets and nearly lost to his bunny Roddick.
Its hard to compare what would have happened if Nadal was in the final.
However, I will say that Federer's level of play sucked - plain and simple. I can't tell you how many times I cringed while watching that match as Federer hit failed to put a second serve in play or completely mishit some forehands.
Federer had quite a few chances to get close to a breakpoint but blew them away because of screwing up second serve returns or missing easy passes he would've never missed a couple of years ago.
I definitely consider Federer to be lucky in winning this slam. His serving was his saving grace today.
However, I will say that Federer's level of play sucked - plain and simple. I can't tell you how many times I cringed while watching that match as Federer hit failed to put a second serve in play or completely mishit some forehands.
Federer had quite a few chances to get close to a breakpoint but blew them away because of screwing up second serve returns or missing easy passes he would've never missed a couple of years ago.
I definitely consider Federer to be lucky in winning this slam. His serving was his saving grace today.
well he definitely wouldnt have won the match against nadal playing like today
but since nadal has been injured since rome or madrid i think its quite pointless to talk about it because nobody knows how nadal would be playing without injury
and if he played injured he wouldnt have reached finals
but since nadal has been injured since rome or madrid i think its quite pointless to talk about it because nobody knows how nadal would be playing without injury
and if he played injured he wouldnt have reached finals
when did he lose to hewitt and wawrinka?
Exhibition matches
viduka0101
Hall of Fame
he lost to hewitt more than once although he has a winning record, at least i think so
FedFan_2009
Banned
What an idiot. Roger was playing according to his opponent today. If Rafa was across the net, he'd have broken him a few times. No wonder Roger rejected this clown as a potential coach.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
That is the truth, Andy gave Roger that match. I was very against Andy but he made some amazing improvements!
Rafa couldn´t even reach the quarterfinals of the French ......
zagor
Bionic Poster
Truth is something that is a proven fact,this is speculation.
Rhino
Legend
The Thursday and Friday before Wimbledon started on grass in an exhibition tournament.
FedFan_2009
Banned
Rafa would never go 5+ sets with not ever being broken...
backhand winner
Banned
I would have to agree. If Nadal was healthy and playing at the level of last year, he would've won.
viduka0101
Hall of Fame
i thought that too, but as B.Becker said during the match Roddick just took away his superior shotmaking (superior to Roddicks) and thats what probably made him nervous, he couldn't do much on the return, Roddick was just serving phenomenaly
on the other hand, a match with Nadal would be a totaly different match, played by either Roddick or Federer
Nadal is a completely different player. Cahill disqualifies himself with this comment as a total clown.
viduka0101
Hall of Fame
Roger would never loose 5 major finals against Nadal, oh wait he did
Yep, he did lose that 5 set match against Nadal last year...because he faltered on serve.
This year, he was rock-solid on serve, and became better on serve as the 5th set went on. If you just looked at the serving stats in the 5th set, you'd have thought it was Karlovic serving against Roddick.
And he still played some pretty great baseline tennis too; again, it was tough for him to break, like last year. But Roddick was of course a big part of the reason for that, serving like he did, which put incredible pressure on Federer.
DavidGarcia
Hall of Fame
I would not take those matches too serious. Those matches are not even play at the best of 3 sets. It is 2 sets and tie break if each player wins a set.
if he plays rafa then he plays a different match. different approach differetn mindset different tactics different match from the first stroke. simple. therefore no one will ever know if this is true. rafa's struggling to run properly at the moment, so if he plays rafa today, he wins.
feetofclay
Semi-Pro
I believe 2008 Wimbledon result was 6 4, 6 4, 6 7, 6 7, 9 7. to Nadal , so Nadal actually didn't have service game broken.
Rhino
Legend
Not true, Nadal was broken once in that match (he broke back).
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
Cahill is a clown.Nadal would have lost to Roddick today, the way Roddick was serving,.Nadal wins one epic 5 set match at wimbledon and now he is the grass court king, LMAO!
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Actually Federer did break Nadal in 2008 Wimbledon but could not consolidate the break.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Share/Match-Facts-Pop-Up.aspx?t=540&y=2007&r=7&p=F324
JennyS
Hall of Fame
Roddick would have beaten Nadal in the quarterfinals.
imalil2gangsta4u
Hall of Fame
I think its hard to know because most likely federer would have raised his game if he saw nadal on the other side of the net.
Breaker
Legend
Hewitt would have beaten Nadal in the second round.
julesb
Banned
A healthy Nadal spanks Hewitt.
JennyS
Hall of Fame
Absolutely, he is not giving credit to Andy who IMO played better in this match than Roger did in last year's final!
Plus how can he say that when Roger had these numbers?
1st Serve % 64%
Aces: 50
Double Faults 4
Winners (including Service) 107
Unforced Errors: 38
Winning % on 1st Serve 89 %
Winning % on 2nd Serve 60 %
Net Approaches: 38 of 59 = 64 %
How is this playing poorly?
julesb
Banned
Roger himself played much better in last years final than this years final, and even in this years final he still beat Roddick, so how can Roddick have been playing better than Roger in last years final when he couldnt even beat Roger playing much worse than last year in this years final.
boojay
Hall of Fame
Depends which Rafa Cahill was talking about. Federer could beat the current Rafa with his left arm and both hands tied behind his back. Fed would've struggled a little against a healthy Nadal, but he also would've also raised his game knowing it was Nadal he'd meet in the final as opposed to Roddick whom he had beaten so thoroughly numerous times in the past. In that case, a more aggressive Fed would've showed up and mopped the floor with Nads.
ACE of Hearts
Bionic Poster
He did not play well last year then this year.He maded alot of unforced errors and he didnt capitalize on break points against Nadal.
Breaker
Legend
A prime Hewitt spanks Nadal
.Nadal's knees in their current state would prevent him from moving well enough to beat Hewitt or Roddick playing at the levels they were in this tournament.
feetofclay
Semi-Pro
Apologies. I had forgotten that, selective memory on my part.
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