David Ferrer's domination in 2012.

[Vegito]

David Ferrer in 2012 was outstanding.

I think he made some mistakes with his schedule. Otherwise he would have had an even better season? For example, playing Davis Cup; he was not going to play but then he changed his opinion. Also he played some ATP 250 that maybe should have not played. For example, he played Davis Cup quarterfinals and then he was very tired in Montecarlo, where he lost in R32 against Bellucci.

Apart from that, what a great year. He reached quarterfinals in two Slams and semifinals in the others two. He practically was only losing against the best 4 players of the ranking(he beat Murray in the French Open), but many times he has given them a fight. Succesful in all the surfaces. A warrior. His consistence, strenght, endurance, toughness are impressive! So it seems like only the best 4 players, maybe sometimes other inspired player, can beat him. When he won in Paris-Bercy, this was his seventh ATP Tour-level title of the year, the most of any player that season. He also won more matches that year than any other player, male or female.

Records win/loss: 76-15
Titles: 7 (Outdoor Hard, Clay, Grass, Indoor Hard)

-Spectacular performance in Davis Cup.
-Great matches against Nadal in Barcelona and Rome
-He beats Murray in the French Open
-He was close to beat Murray in Wimbledon
-Epic performance in doubles in the Olympic Games
-Epic victory against Tipsarevic in the US Open

What do you think about David Ferrer's domination in 2012?

 

[tennisaddict]

How many matches did he win against the Big 3 ?

 

[Vegito]

How many matches did he win against the Big 3 ?

That year he didn´t win matches against the Big 3. But he played some great matches against them.

When he beat Berdych in Davis Cup, Tomas said something like "he has played like Djokovic"

 

[Mainad]

How many matches did he win against the Big 3 ?

None. He was 0-8 v the Big 3 in 2012, 11-1 overall against the rest of the top 10 (his 1 loss being to Murray).

 

[Vegito]

At the moment, this year has some similitude with 2012!

 

[tennisaddict]

That year he didn´t win matches against the Big 3. But he played some great matches against them.

When he beat Berdych in Davis Cup, Tomas said something like "he has played like Djokovic"

Tsonga or Delpo or Nishikori would not let a year go by without a single win.

While Ferrer has had a great career, he will be remembered for being a kick board for the big 3.

 

[Vegito]

That match against Murray in the French Open was spectacular and he really didn´t play badly against Nadal in semifinals despite losing 6–2, 6–2, 6–1. Against Murray in Wimbledon was a very good match too. He would have reached the final against Federer.

 

[Vegito]

 

[Deleted member 307496]

And this is why Ferrer is overrated and compared with the much superior Lleyton Hewitt and Andy Roddick..

Tone it down a bit, even Soderling had a huge lead in the H2H against Ferrer.

 

[RF-18]

How is that domination Of 2012? Wut?

 

[Vegito]

Who rated this thread with one star? Why?

 

[Vegito]

And this is why Ferrer is overrated and compared with the much superior Lleyton Hewitt and Andy Roddick..

Tone it down a bit, even Soderling had a huge lead in the H2H against Ferrer.

Ferrer beats Hewitt in the French Open 2008 and US Open 2012. Ferrer is 2-1 in the H2H against Hewitt.

Ferrer beats Roddick in Miami 2006, Cincinnati and the Masters in 2007, in Davis Cup(in Spain in 2008 and in USA in 2011), and in Shanghai 2011. Ferrer is 7-4 in the H2H against Roddick.

In the other matches those players beated David Ferrer, it was not easy for them!

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Ferrer beats Hewitt in the French Open 2008 and US Open 2012. Ferrer is 2-1 in the H2H against Hewitt.

Ferrer beats Roddick in Miami, Cincinnati and the Masters in 2007, in Davis Cup(in Spain in 2008 and in USA in 2011), and in Shanghai 2011. Ferrer is 7-4 in the H2H against Roddick.

In the other matches those players beated David Ferrer, it was not easy for them!

Hewitt was past his best in both the matches, yet in 2008 he nearly beat Ferrer on clay.

Stop overrating the man, please. He's a fine player, but he is at Davydenko or Nalbandian level.

Also, same deal with Roddick.. He was hardly at his best for those matches.

I mean, I guess I should say Hewitt >> Sampras because he beat him at the US Open. Come on now..

 

[Deleted member 307496]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NFfSwKu9pw

 

[Vegito]

Miami 2006 or Cincinnati 2007. I think Roddick was at his prime.

 

[Deleted member 307496]

Miami 2006 or Cincinnati 2007. I think Roddick was at his prime.

Miami 2006, during Roddick's trip down from the top of the game? (He dropped to 12 after Wimbledon 2006). If that was his prime, he certainly wasn't playing prime level tennis..

Cincinnati 2007 was great, but Roddick has always been vulnerable to upsets from good players.

He was beaten by Gilles Muller at the US Open in 2005..

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

David Ferrer in 2012 was outstanding.

I think he made some mistakes with his schedule. Otherwise he would have had an even better season? For example, playing Davis Cup; he was not going to play but then he changed his opinion. Also he played some ATP 250 that maybe should have not played. For example, he played Davis Cup quarterfinals and then he was very tired in Montecarlo, where he lost in R32 against Bellucci.

Apart from that, what a great year. He reached quarterfinals in two Slams and semifinals in the others two. He practically was only losing against the best 4 players of the ranking(he beat Murray in the French Open), but many times he has given them a fight. Succesful in all the surfaces. A warrior. When he won in Paris-Bercy, this was his seventh ATP Tour-level title of the year, the most of any player that season. He also won more matches that year than any other player, male or female.

Records win/loss: 76-15
Titles: 7 (Outdoor Hard, Clay, Grass, Indoor Hard)

-Spectacular performance in Davis Cup.
-Great matches against Nadal in Barcelona and Rome
-He beats Murray in the French Open
-He was close to beat Murray in Wimbledon
-Epic performance in doubles in the Olympic Games
-Epic victory against Tipsarevic in the US Open

What do you think about David Ferrer's domination in 2012?

He also beat Roddick at Wimbledon, and then destroyed Del Potro, that match against Murray, Ferrer was up a set and a break, he served to win the second set.

 

[JRAJ1988]

Ferrer is actually underrated in tennis and on these forums.

He bloomed late and is still resurging in 2015 after an iffy 2014 by his top ten standards, a career high of number 3 and a French Open finalist, numerous titles including a Masters, Masters finals.

He's a really solid player. From the Australian Open 2012 to the French Open 2014 he was on a QF's or better run.

I recall Murray saying on numerous occasions that Ferrer never get's the credit he deserves.

 

[spinovic]

Ferrer had an outstanding 2012. Domination is a bit much considering all of his titles were 500 or lower except for Paris, and that he was winless against the top 3 players.

But, it was an excellent season. He was nearly unbeatable against the rest of the field that year.

Highlights include...

Leading the tour in wins.
Leading the tour in titles (7), which includes Paris, his only Masters title.
7-1 in finals with the only loss being in two tight sets to Nadal in Barcelona.
QF at all 4 majors, SF at RG and USO

Any way you slice it, that's a great year, but dominant would require more success at majors, mandatory events, and against the best players. Here is a list of his titles with some info on the draws...

Auckland - Ferrer, Almagro, Verdasco and Chela were the top 4 seeds
Copa Claro - Ferrer, Almagro, Simon and Nishikori were the top 4 seeds
Acapulco - same top 4 seeds as Copa Claro
's-Hertogenbosch - Ferrer, Troicki, Melzer, and Haase were the top 4 seeds
Bastad - Ferrer, Almagro, Ramos, and Nieminen were the top 4 seeds
Valencia - Ferrer, Tsonga, Tipsarevic, and Monaco were the top 4 seeds
Paris - Federer, Djokovic, Murray, and Ferrer were the top 4 seeds; Federer withdrew citing fatigue, Djokovic lost his opening match in the R32 to Sam Querrey, and Murray was upset in the R16 by eventual runner-up, Jerzy Janowicz

Kudos to Ferrer for capitalizing in Paris, but how many times in the last 10 years has there been a Masters event where none of the Big 4 were present after the R16? That's what it took for Ferrer to get that title.

But, winning titles on hard court, on clay, on grass and indoors all in the same season is a pretty cool achievement.

 

[BVSlam]

Ferrer is consistently good against lower-ranked players and wins plenty of 250's/the occasional 500. That year especially. However, as much as I respect him for his fighting spirit and tireless baseline game, I do think he is the definition of a vulturer. He basically went through 250/500 level players to win Paris, but at least he fairly consistently manages to capitalise on those chances so that's impressive.

 

[Vegito]

Add what I add in the opening comment. His consistence, strenght, endurance, toughness are impressive! So it seems like only the best 4 players, and maybe sometimes other inspired player, could beat him. Like they said, specially that year it was amazing to see. So I didn´t want him to play Davis Cup that year. Well, maybe he would have lost anyway that match of Montecarlo(he was defending points of the 2011 final) They say Bellucci played great. Maybe Davis Cup helped him in something, and he really played great in the Davis Cup that year. Other period of the year in which he seemed tired was the asian tour(he withdrew from Shanghai, lost the points of the 2011 final, maybe it helped him to win Paris-Bercy), and maybe in the Olympics. I think his defeat against Nishikori in that moment was a little surprisive, but at least he was still in the doubles with Feliciano López and they had a great performance. Unfortunately for them, they could not win a medal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrfbsonSIX4

In 2013 he played great for moments, but for me he looked a little tired. This year he is playing great again.

 

[Vegito]

I recall Murray saying on numerous occasions that Ferrer never get's the credit he deserves.

Yeah. And I remember Roddick shaking hands with him after a match in which I think Roddick won and saying to him "I respect you a lot" (or "I have a lot of respect for you", I don´t remember exactly)

 

[BVSlam]

I respect him a lot as well. I think he's a great example for anyone. Hard work pays off in the end, it took him a while but look how he has maximised his potential. There are a lot of players who have tons of potential but don't get everything out of it. I still don't think he's good enough for really big titles, but he has managed to get himself into a position where he gets as far as he can, and he literally never gives up. Let's just say he has a mindset to be jealous of.

 

[Vegito]

He also beat Roddick at Wimbledon, and then destroyed Del Potro, that match against Murray, Ferrer was up a set and a break, he served to win the second set.

Amazing. He didn´t gave any chance to Delpo. Ferrer probably would have beat Tsonga in the semifinal.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

Amazing. He didn´t gave any chance to Delpo. Ferrer probably would have beat Tsonga in the semifinal.

Don't you think Ferrer is a bit unlucky with the era he faced in his peak years? How do you think he would have fared it Borg/Lendl's time instead?

 

[tennispro492]

I respect him a lot as well. I think he's a great example for anyone. Hard work pays off in the end, it took him a while but look how he has maximised his potential. There are a lot of players who have tons of potential but don't get everything out of it. I still don't think he's good enough for really big titles, but he has managed to get himself into a position where he gets as far as he can, and he literally never gives up. Let's just say he has a mindset to be jealous of.

I don't think he has maximised his potential. Look at the form on his groundstrokes- his forehand utilises too much of a bent arm, so he has trouble hitting through the court with a penetrating shot, tho he gets massive spin. Also he takes his hand off for his backhand often, which limits its effectiveness you would think. look at nishikori who is only 1 inch taller- powerful flat forehands. if Ferrer had this kill shot he would have won a lot more.

 

[Anaconda]

Miami 2006, during Roddick's trip down from the top of the game? (He dropped to 12 after Wimbledon 2006). If that was his prime, he certainly wasn't playing prime level tennis..

Cincinnati 2007 was great, but Roddick has always been vulnerable to upsets from good players.

He was beaten by Gilles Muller at the US Open in 2005..

Looking over Roddick's losses, aside from Federer, Djokovic, Safin, Johansson, Nadal, Hewitt, all other losses were inexcusable. That's what happens when you play defensive - you lose to Gasquet, Murray (in 06 lol), Tips, Ferrer and Lopez at Wimbledon. Lol. How does one beat Murray in 2009 and lose to him in 2006???? BTW how could I forget Lu????



Roddick has had some pretty bad losses, see above + AO 06, AO 08, US09, US10. I get Kohlly and Baghdathis have this kind of cult following, but Roddick really should have beaten both. the fact that Kohlly had to play the match of his life and sneak a win against a pusher Roddick is a joke.

 

[The Green Mile]

He played his best match that year also imo, and I'm pretty sure in his opinion too. The Davis Cup match against Berdych.

 

[Vegito]

I respect him a lot as well. I think he's a great example for anyone. Hard work pays off in the end, it took him a while but look how he has maximised his potential. There are a lot of players who have tons of potential but don't get everything out of it. I still don't think he's good enough for really big titles, but he has managed to get himself into a position where he gets as far as he can, and he literally never gives up. Let's just say he has a mindset to be jealous of.

Agree. I admire him for that.

 

[mike danny]

One thing struck me. A bit off topic but it still Ferrer I am talking about. How did Roddick give Ferrer such a tough match on clay at Davis cup 2008? 8-6 in the 5th!!! And Andy is known for being a very lousy clay courter.

 

[Vegito]

Cool picture. 's-Hertogenbosch champion.

 

[kandamrgam]

Cool picture. 's-Hertogenbosch champion.

Twice

 

[kandamrgam]

He played his best match that year also imo, and I'm pretty sure in his opinion too. The Davis Cup match against Berdych.

May be. I thought Ferrer's Barcelona in 2012 vs Nadal was his best match. Nadal was a bit fortunate to win this. The guy is consistently good. Unfortunately doesnt have a higher gear to go when needed.

 

[Mainad]

David Ferrer in 2012 was outstanding.

I think he made some mistakes with his schedule. Otherwise he would have had an even better season? For example, playing Davis Cup; he was not going to play but then he changed his opinion. Also he played some ATP 250 that maybe should have not played. For example, he played Davis Cup quarterfinals and then he was very tired in Montecarlo, where he lost in R32 against Bellucci.

Apart from that, what a great year. He reached quarterfinals in two Slams and semifinals in the others two. He practically was only losing against the best 4 players of the ranking(he beat Murray in the French Open), but many times he has given them a fight. Succesful in all the surfaces. A warrior. His consistence, strenght, endurance, toughness are impressive! So it seems like only the best 4 players, maybe sometimes other inspired player, can beat him. When he won in Paris-Bercy, this was his seventh ATP Tour-level title of the year, the most of any player that season. He also won more matches that year than any other player, male or female.

Records win/loss: 76-15
Titles: 7 (Outdoor Hard, Clay, Grass, Indoor Hard)

-Spectacular performance in Davis Cup.
-Great matches against Nadal in Barcelona and Rome
-He beats Murray in the French Open
-He was close to beat Murray in Wimbledon
-Epic performance in doubles in the Olympic Games
-Epic victory against Tipsarevic in the US Open

What do you think about David Ferrer's domination in 2012?

That was certainly his best year on tour: 7 titles, made the quarter-final of all 4 Slams including 2 semi-finals, winning his first (and only) Masters title and winning all 4 of his DC rubbers. Won 2 out of his 3 round robin matches at the WTF too including against Del Potro. Not sure about his Rome match with Nadal as he did suffer a 2nd set bagel but the Barcelona final was certainly close.

That was Daveed at his very best!

 

[mbm0912]

Who rated this thread with one star? Why?

Guessing because you made a thread for David Ferrer. You also included "domination" in the thread title.