Davis Cup 13-15th September General discussion

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I do have to give kudos to this Beast of a Guy named Rafa. He's still playing a measly match in the Davis Cup against a journeyman, after winning the US Open. It's not even a semi final match of the Davis Cup, And he's playing like it's the finals of a Wimbledon.

Just give your body a rest Dude. Al'right, i've become a fan................:)
 

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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Federer/Robredo: 6/7 3/6 4/6
Nadal/Robredo: 6/0 6/2 6/2

Federer/Stakhovsky: 7/6 6/7 5/7 6/7
Nadal/Stakhovsky: 6/0 6/0 6/4


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LOL.

Still can't believe he flew home from here and played on a completely different surface a matter of days later.
And GOATed. :shock:

Vamos!

Give me a break! Clay is his best surface. He's the best ever on clay, in fact. It's not like it was a major ordeal for him to come back and play on it.
 

cucio

Legend
I'd love to know what the coach could possibly have to say to Nadal at this stage of the match.

Well, Corretja retired with a 2-0 H2H over Nadal, so he owns him and he can tell him whatever he wants. Probably he was telling Rafa to switch to a OHBH and rush the net every point.
 

NJLefty

Rookie
How does the structure of the David Cup work? What's the difference between the World Group and the Playoffs?

Sorry for the naive question. I've not followed this type of competition before.
 
How does the structure of the David Cup work? What's the difference between the World Group and the Playoffs?

Sorry for the naive question. I've not followed this type of competition before.

The teams that lose in the first round of the World Group are relegated to the World Group playoffs, in which they compete with the Group 1 winners for a place in the World Group the following year.

For instance, Spain lost to Canada in the first round of the World Group earlier this year so they're forced to compete in the World Group playoffs this weekend (against Ukraine) in order to regain their spot in the World Group in 2014.
 

NJLefty

Rookie
The teams that lose in the first round of the World Group are relegated to the World Group playoffs, in which they compete with the Group 1 winners for a place in the World Group the following year.

For instance, Spain lost to Canada in the first round of the World Group earlier this year so they're forced to compete in the World Group playoffs this weekend (against Ukraine) in order to regain their spot in the World Group in 2014.

Ah! Thanks!
 
Ah! Thanks!

No problem. Took me a looong time to understand it but it's finally sinking in.

Davis Cup is actually a very large competition. Between all zones in all groups, there are about 130 nations competing. All the way down in Group IV you've got countries like Bangladesh, Singapore, Kyrgyzstan and Myanmar duking it out!
 

Clarky21

Banned
Give me a break! Clay is his best surface. He's the best ever on clay, in fact. It's not like it was a major ordeal for him to come back and play on it.

BS. Nadal is risking injury by switching surfaces so quickly, and for playing when he says he is totally knackered and needs a break. I wish he would have just skipped DC altogether.
 

CDNguy87

Hall of Fame
BS. Nadal is risking injury by switching surfaces so quickly, and for playing when he says he is totally knackered and needs a break. I wish he would have just skipped DC altogether.


I disagree. Davis Cup is very important for Nadal to regain his confidence, after Cvac swept both the clay and North Americam hardcourt seasons just as you predicted thousands of times.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
The teams that lose in the first round of the World Group are relegated to the World Group playoffs, in which they compete with the Group 1 winners for a place in the World Group the following year.

For instance, Spain lost to Canada in the first round of the World Group earlier this year so they're forced to compete in the World Group playoffs this weekend (against Ukraine) in order to regain their spot in the World Group in 2014.

it's fun but kind of insane, and very harsh, when you think about it..Spain has one slip up after years of success and they're kind of playing in the minor leagues with a chance to fall into the low minors if they slip up or Rafa and Ferrer didn't play
 
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it's fun but kind of insane, and very harsh, when you think about it..Sain has one slip up after years of success and they're kind of playing in the minor leagues with a chance to fall into the low minors if they slip up or Rafa and Ferrer didn't play

Exactly. It's actually a really intriguing and, like you said, fun competition to follow. For the more obscure nations, it's a long climb up the ladder to even get a shot at competing for the big prize. On the other hand, the tables can turn really quickly for certain nations when new players emerge - like, say, Janowicz for Poland or Nishikori for Japan - and former top players start to fade, like Hewitt for Australia. If Tomic doesn't start becoming a real factor, Australia could quickly fall down the Davis Cup ladder.
 

bullfan

Legend
BS. Nadal is risking injury by switching surfaces so quickly, and for playing when he says he is totally knackered and needs a break. I wish he would have just skipped DC altogether.

Well if Nadal listened to your advice, he'd be fishing and scared to go on a court to face opponents. You believe Nadal should run and hide, versus Nadals desire to run to a fight, win or lose. You don't trust Nadal, despite the so called fan of his that you claim to be. Nadal is a positive person, who relishes the good fight, win or lose. It seems that you don't understand the player you claim to be a fan of.
 

Fedinkum

Legend
Sweet first day for the Aussie, up 2-0, but feel for Poles with Janowicz on the injury bench. Hope we can get the remaining rubber and head us back to the World Group. Come on Pat and the boys!!
 
Sweet first day for the Aussie, up 2-0, but feel for Poles with Janowicz on the injury bench. Hope we can get the remaining rubber and head us back to the World Group. Come on Pat and the boys!!

Hewitt's got to be feeling confident after his 4th round showing at the US Open, which bodes well for Australia's chances. Historically, they're a premier tennis nation so it's a shame whenever they're not competing in the World Group. Just doesn't feel right.
 

AtomicForehand

Hall of Fame
I badly want to see Nadal and Lopez Torres in dubs tomorrow...they are just about the most exciting dubs team ever. Any TV coverage in the States?
 

Fedinkum

Legend
Hewitt's got to be feeling confident after his 4th round showing at the US Open, which bodes well for Australia's chances. Historically, they're a premier tennis nation so it's a shame whenever they're not competing in the World Group. Just doesn't feel right.

I know...we were once a proud sporting nation. Also, every time we have a bright kid, the media put so much pressure on them and their families, they get distracted off field. A few years back, our Davis Cup team was in such a shamble, so much dis-unity. Sad....:(
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
apparently Murray goes for Britain too...and Berdych and Step step in for Czechs.... up teams going for it
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
I badly want to see Nadal and Lopez Torres in dubs tomorrow...they are just about the most exciting dubs team ever. Any TV coverage in the States?

they're playing (above)

no tv but should be some links on livescorehunter and sportlemon

match starts at 10:00 am us eastern time
 
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I thought I read or heard somewhere that a team had to use at least 3 players in a Davis Cup tie. Didn't think Berdych and Stepanek could play the singles matches and team up for doubles. I know they did that last year to win the Davis Cup too.
 
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014

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I thought I read or heard somewhere that a team had to use at least 3 players in a Davis Cup tie. Didn't think Berdych and Stepanek could play the singles matches and team up for doubles. I know they did that last year to win the Davis Cup too.

Maybe in the past this was a rule.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=477259


Also Switzerland looking like they are going to 2 sets all in the doubles, were 2-0 up.
 

AtomicForehand

Hall of Fame
Marc Lopez keeps stinking things up by playing low-percentage shots that get his team out of position. Rafa is scrambling to cover the court. I would be starting to get a little annoyed with my partner if I were him.
 

*Sparkle*

Professional
It seems that way. To be honest, I'm not sure that we're ready for it, but in the year we (collectively) won Wimbledon, it only seems right. :D

apparently Murray goes for Britain too...and Berdych and Step step in for Czechs.... up teams going for it
Based on my twitter feed, it seems that someone at the BBC had to quickly apologise for saying England were 2-1 up against Croatia.:oops:

You'd think they'd know better than to make the mistake of calling Murray English by now. For those less familiar with the British team, Fleming is also Scottish (and so is Leon, the team Captain), so technically England haven't actually won any points yet! :lol:
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
It seems that way. To be honest, I'm not sure that we're ready for it, but in the year we (collectively) won Wimbledon, it only seems right. :D


Based on my twitter feed, it seems that someone at the BBC had to quickly apologise for saying England were 2-1 up against Croatia.:oops:

You'd think they'd know better than to make the mistake of calling Murray English by now. For those less familiar with the British team, Fleming is also Scottish (and so is Leon, the team Captain), so technically England haven't actually won any points yet! :lol:

okay, gotcha' :)

Ukraine is now a set apiece against Spain and this decison to go with Nadal and Marc Lopez is backfiring and looking very strange...Lopez does not belong out there...it's amazing Spain has accomplished what it has in recent times never settling on a doubles team or having one you can count on but today it might bite them, or at least Nadal who's going at least 4 today, or five and then maybe 3 or more against Dolgo tomorrow...I mean if they wanted to play Nadal why not just stick him with Feliciano, he'd win many points right off of serve which Marc can't...I know they've had success before but the guy just doesn't have weapons

p.s. and forgot GB was tied going into today..they win in 4 today so move worked
 
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CDNguy87

Hall of Fame
I thought I read or heard somewhere that a team had to use at least 3 players in a Davis Cup tie. Didn't think Berdych and Stepanek could play the singles matches and team up for doubles. I know they did that last year to win the Davis Cup too.

I don't think there is a rule like that, but there probably should be. Seems kind of cheap to just use the same 2 guys for all 5 ties...I think they should at least be forced to use one player for the doubles who doesn't play the singles (or alternatively force them to sub in someone new for the reverse singles if their doubles pair is the 2 original singles players).
 

Andres

G.O.A.T.
I thought I read or heard somewhere that a team had to use at least 3 players in a Davis Cup tie. Didn't think Berdych and Stepanek could play the singles matches and team up for doubles. I know they did that last year to win the Davis Cup too.
Nope. Croatia did the same thing to win the Cup a couple of years ago, with Ancic - Ljubicic doing a two-man team for pretty much the entire year.
 

marc45

G.O.A.T.
Spain wins in 4, so Nadal move works out other than for folks there who wanted to see Nadal and Dolgo tomorrow..assume Robredo will play instead unless Rafa wants to play an exo for the home folk
 
I don't think there is a rule like that, but there probably should be. Seems kind of cheap to just use the same 2 guys for all 5 ties...I think they should at least be forced to use one player for the doubles who doesn't play the singles (or alternatively force them to sub in someone new for the reverse singles if their doubles pair is the 2 original singles players).

Me too. It's hard to credit a team for a win when it's only 2 guys doing all the work. But hey, on the flip side it reflects well on Berdych and Stepanek when they're winning their singles matches and doubles matches. It's indicative of their versatility as players so they get full credit for that in my books.
 
Kei Nishikori just defeated Santiago Giraldo 6-1 6-2 6-4 to level Japan's tie with Colombia at 2-2. Go Soeda will face Alejandro Falla in the deciding 5th rubber.
 
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