Are we watching the same video? If a person gets knocked down from a blow hitting them horizontally they're going to fall back/away from the person doing the knocking. He fell straight down, soccer flop style. The fall was clearly unnecessarily added for drama.Br0, the slow-mo shows the force of impact was quite strong, that dude is big and coming in unrestrained and caught him shoulder to cheek. Laid him flat.
I can't imagine why there was not a longer medical attention given, ice and wellness check in general. Refere will see this video for a long time to come.
I agree with the player, he tells the supervisor that he doesn't have the balls to default the other player but he is going to default him.
Was there even a red mark left on the lines woman when Djokovic hit her throat with the ball? Regardless Bergs made more than enough contact with Garín to warrant a DQ and it seems the umpire didn't want to deal with the fallout of having the Belgian fans on his back. The ITF are trying to spin this that it was a unique event and that all things were considered but clearly not. The final doubles tie should have been played and if it can't be then Belgium should be DQ'd.Are we watching the same video? If a person gets knocked down from a blow hitting them horizontally they're going to fall back/away from the person doing the knocking. He fell straight down, soccer flop style. The fall was clearly unnecessarily added for drama.
And where is the photo of his swollen eye everyone keeps talking about? The photo in the OP just show redness.
I do agree, even with the fake fall, the hit was probably hard enough to warrant a DQ.Was there even a red mark left on the lines woman when Djokovic hit her throat with the ball? Regardless Bergs made more than enough contact with Garín to warrant a DQ and it seems the umpire didn't want to deal with the fallout of having the Belgian fans on his back. The ITF are trying to spin this that it was a unique event and that all things were considered but clearly not. The final doubles tie should have been played and if it can't be then Belgium should be DQ'd.
Over the top? He got shoulder checked to the eye with no warning LOL. And Bergs isn't a small dudeFalling to the floor was probably a little over the top
Gotta let this go. It wasn’t unforgivable. She received a violation for verbal abuse due to berating the umpire for a couple of minutes. Nothing more, nothing less.Serena saying thief - unforgiveable
Gotta let this go. It wasn’t unforgivable. She received a violation for verbal abuse due to berating the umpire for a couple of minutes. Nothing more, nothing less.
If it was accidental then I hardly see how it warrants a DQObviously accidental but absolutely should have been a DQ.
Are you arguing this was intentional because Bergs definitely saw Garin? How come Garin looked completely oblivious and made no apparent effort to dodge this?These guys track 120+ mph balls it wasn’t an accident. Easy suspension call. Tennis isn’t a contact sport and Garin had the right of way. Walking to a changeover is normal. Running and ramming your shoulder into someone’s head is not. Pretty simple to punish the one who is wrong.
Garin put his arm up moments before contact, I think he was expecting a bump but not the full tackle LOLAre you arguing this was intentional because Bergs definitely saw Garin? How come Garin looked completely oblivious and made no apparent effort to dodge this?
They both completely misjudged how close they were to each other
Wait for Djokovic fans to say that if their idol had done that, he would have been disqualified.
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lets be honest if djokovic did this he’d be DQ’d.
Injuring someone, even if accidental, in a non conctact sport is a ****ing DQ.If it was accidental then I hardly see how it warrants a DQ
This was an embarrassing flop from Garin, by the way
Here's the thing: Bergs was being an idiot for that celebration and should of been DQ.
Also, Garin was acting like a big baby when he got the Time violation, point and game penalty.
Was it an accident? Yes
Was it so bad to the point where Garin couldn't play? Don't think so.
Why should Garin be expected to play? Bergs should be DQd. Any other outcome is unacceptable.Here's the thing: Bergs was being an idiot for that celebration and should of been DQ.
Also, Garin was acting like a big baby when he got the Time violation, point and game penalty.
Was it an accident? Yes
Was it so bad to the point where Garin couldn't play? Don't think so.
Yes it should of been a DQ I agree with you.Why should Garin be expected to play? Bergs should be DQd. Any other outcome is unacceptable.
I'm not gonna finish a ****ing tennis match where my opponent is allowed to knock me off my feet.
Didn't have to...
they DQ’d him for the lineswoman incident at USO , this seems much worse
Who's they?
Why? Garin was being a baby. He should be absolutely embarrassed of himself. Garin is exactly what sport is NOT about.He should have lost the match for that.
lol. He should start giving tennis lessons at this point and move on from competitive play. His eyes was no swollen, and he was barely touched. Even if it was and it hurt, he should be angry and go out there and try to win.His eye was literally swollen, how was he expected to play on? He got shoulder charged and knocked to the ground and then gets penalized for his opponent being reckless?
Insanity.
What's even remotely bad about what Garin does?If this was Kyrgios or even Djokovic this would have been a DQ. Should have been a DQ.
Garin is a jerk but cmon guys this isn't a hard decision.
I mean it was literally a bump accidentally.If this was Kyrgios or even Djokovic this would have been a DQ. Should have been a DQ.
Garin is a jerk but cmon guys this isn't a hard decision.
Dude flops like a little baby and cries about having to continue. Punk move.What's even remotely bad about what Garin does?
Garin was 100% in the right on this particular instance, but I'm not a fan of his on-court behavior in general. I'm just saying that even though I don't like the player, this call is pretty clear.What's even remotely bad about what Garin does?
So recklessness or strict liability does not exist in your world?It was an accident so warning was fair, garin drama queen
It's really not. It's the most slam dunk disqualification since Shapovalovalovalol hit an umpire.As for Ramos, he was put in a very tough position.
As others have said, his eye was a little red, but not swollen.His eye was literally swollen, how was he expected to play on?
Yep, said this in another thread. Watch any South American soccer/football team or player, and you see this like 5 times a game.Idk man. I think there was a bit of gamesmanship from garin. The swipe to the face was bad sure. But the whole falling down, I don’t buy it. Looks like classic flopping in soccer. Sure default for the physical contact at all, but I don’t think that contact laid him out, I think he let himself fall down.
See above. Just put ice on your face and it will turn red like that. Means nothing.Bergs hit Garin's face near the eye which turned red.
Exactly. See above. This was 100% a guy exaggerating in order to get a decision from the referee/umpire. Glad it didn't work.He's a complete idiot for running into him, but that was a dive only a player from a footballing nation could execute.
Wasn't an accident. Bergs saw Garin in front of him and he deliberately bullied Garin by bumping him like Nadal bumping Rosol on changeover, only with more violence.I mean it was literally a bump accidentally.
One of the most experienced umpires in tennis disagrees with you. He correctly applied the rules, and it was his judgement that this didn't warrant a DQInjuring someone, even if accidental, in a non conctact sport is a ****ing DQ.
I blame Garin for flopping and exaggerating the injury, in an effort to get his opponent disqualified. He then acts like a baby and refuses to playLike how do you even start blaming Garin here. Unbelievable levels of victim blaming.
The rule as written in the rulebook is the same, regardless of whether they hit an official or the opposing player. It's ultimately up to the umpire's discretionIs it possible that the aggression (whether it is with ball, racquet, physical infliction etc.) rule is less stricly applied between players than against fan/ball person/line judge/umpire? Maybe, say, if it was ball person he bumped into there would've been immediate announcement of DQ but becasue it was player they viewed it differently? Sometimes players intentionally hit opponent and it's seen OK anyway.
If he bumped into a ball kid and the kid started crying, it most definitely would be a default - like the women's doubles situation at '23 RG. If the kid shrugged it off, they would have played on. Guess Garin should have burst into tears.Is it possible that the aggression (whether it is with ball, racquet, physical infliction etc.) rule is less stricly applied between players than against fan/ball person/line judge/umpire? Maybe, say, if it was ball person he bumped into there would've been immediate announcement of DQ but becasue it was player they viewed it differently? Sometimes players intentionally hit opponent and it's seen OK anyway.
It's ultimately up to the umpire's discretion
Application of rules seems person- and situation-dependent indeed as many already mentioned as "inconsistent".If the kid shrugged it off, they would have played on.