Meles
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Updated in short we have moved in the following year from the following:
The mythical Zedbot --> horrible serving Zedrot --> the soul crushing Zedzilla
Updated OP as of 5/12/2018:
If you've been watching Zverev fairly closely since beginning of Munich his game has transformed with much heavier hitting from both sides off the ground. He's been winning 69.8% of serve points
(Zedzilla 73.2%), but his return is down to 38.3% (Zedzilla 44.6%). I suspect these numbers are thrown a bit by Zverev slaughtering a bunch of servebots in Rome, so he's probably returning at least as good as 39.1% and probably higher. The serve likewise is probably inflated after three sets with John Isner. Still it seems likely that Zverev is going to level out at RG around 69% on serve points and 39% on return points. Maybe its 68.5% and 39.5%.
Zedzilla 2018 since start of Munich:
71.5% first serves in play
74.2% first serve points won
70.6% 2nd serve points won
57.6% of total points won
More crazy Meles stats you say? Well 39% is quite low for return points won for a top clay courter, but the Zedbots likely near 69% won on serve is quite high. Infact, if you compare with Fed's hard court career stats, Federer won 27% of his return games on hard courts and Sascha is matching that on clay plus winning nearly as many points on serve on clay as Fed on hard courts. That's pretty staggering. And so we are witnessing the "Dawn of the Zedbot" and the most efficient clay game of all time (Sampras like even).
Zedzilla2018 has suddenly arisen and eclipsed his mind boggling numbers from 2017! This is the beginning of the end. With mind boggling jumps on both return and serve this firmly puts Zverev in the slam hunt and its going to take some heroics to stop Zedzilla who has serve numbers on clay better than Roddick on hard courts and return numbers better than Djokovic on clay even in 2011. These numbers have to be too good to be true, but they are so far up from the too good to be true 2017 numbers that I'm forced to make a call and say ZVEREV WILL BE NUMBER ONE BY THE END OF 2018.
Original OP:
Just was perusing in detail the Zverev clay numbers in 2017. If we look at all of 2017 so far Zverev has won 39.1% of return points and 67.4% of serve points. The serve number stands out because its higher than Fed's career average on clay and the return is within 2%. Not utterly amazing especially when we consider Fed's clay return game has been declined since 2009. Seemingly nothing to see here in the stats.
However if you've been watching Zverev fairly closely since beginning of Munich his game has transformed with much heavier hitting from both sides off the ground. He's been winning 69.8% of serve points
, but his return is down to 38.3%. I suspect these numbers are thrown a bit by Zverev slaughtering a bunch of servebots in Rome, so he's probably returning at least as good as 39.1% and probably higher. The serve likewise is probably inflated after three sets with John Isner. Still it seems likely that Zverev is going to level out at RG around 69% on serve points and 39% on return points. Maybe its 68.5% and 39.5%.
More crazy Meles stats you say? Well 39% is quite low for return points won for a top clay courter, but the Zedbots likely near 69% won on serve is quite high. Infact, if you compare with Fed's hard court career stats, Federer won 27% of his return games on hard courts and Sascha is matching that on clay plus winning nearly as many points on serve on clay as Fed on hard courts. That's pretty staggering. And so we are witnessing the "Dawn of the Zedbot" and the most efficient clay game of all time (Sampras like even).
@Gary Duane @Chanwan @falstaff78 as usual I'm quick on the call, but I like what I see on the court a lot and the stats seem to match what I'm seeing.
The mythical Zedbot --> horrible serving Zedrot --> the soul crushing Zedzilla
Updated OP as of 5/12/2018:
If you've been watching Zverev fairly closely since beginning of Munich his game has transformed with much heavier hitting from both sides off the ground. He's been winning 69.8% of serve points
Zedzilla 2018 since start of Munich:
71.5% first serves in play
74.2% first serve points won
70.6% 2nd serve points won
57.6% of total points won
More crazy Meles stats you say? Well 39% is quite low for return points won for a top clay courter, but the Zedbots likely near 69% won on serve is quite high. Infact, if you compare with Fed's hard court career stats, Federer won 27% of his return games on hard courts and Sascha is matching that on clay plus winning nearly as many points on serve on clay as Fed on hard courts. That's pretty staggering. And so we are witnessing the "Dawn of the Zedbot" and the most efficient clay game of all time (Sampras like even).
Zedzilla2018 has suddenly arisen and eclipsed his mind boggling numbers from 2017! This is the beginning of the end. With mind boggling jumps on both return and serve this firmly puts Zverev in the slam hunt and its going to take some heroics to stop Zedzilla who has serve numbers on clay better than Roddick on hard courts and return numbers better than Djokovic on clay even in 2011. These numbers have to be too good to be true, but they are so far up from the too good to be true 2017 numbers that I'm forced to make a call and say ZVEREV WILL BE NUMBER ONE BY THE END OF 2018.
Original OP:
Just was perusing in detail the Zverev clay numbers in 2017. If we look at all of 2017 so far Zverev has won 39.1% of return points and 67.4% of serve points. The serve number stands out because its higher than Fed's career average on clay and the return is within 2%. Not utterly amazing especially when we consider Fed's clay return game has been declined since 2009. Seemingly nothing to see here in the stats.
However if you've been watching Zverev fairly closely since beginning of Munich his game has transformed with much heavier hitting from both sides off the ground. He's been winning 69.8% of serve points
More crazy Meles stats you say? Well 39% is quite low for return points won for a top clay courter, but the Zedbots likely near 69% won on serve is quite high. Infact, if you compare with Fed's hard court career stats, Federer won 27% of his return games on hard courts and Sascha is matching that on clay plus winning nearly as many points on serve on clay as Fed on hard courts. That's pretty staggering. And so we are witnessing the "Dawn of the Zedbot" and the most efficient clay game of all time (Sampras like even).
@Gary Duane @Chanwan @falstaff78 as usual I'm quick on the call, but I like what I see on the court a lot and the stats seem to match what I'm seeing.
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