DC 315 LTD (!!)

Tordne

Semi-Pro
If you want to get into the handle you need to take the grip and butt cap off.

I need an excuse to get a staple gun to properly refix them anyway :). I couldn't help myself and just placed an order for one now. Anyone actually have these in their hands, and first impressions?
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
Ordered two new ones, I have been using the previous version for a couple of years and will post a review once I hit with it.

Will be a week before mine arrives. Seems like one of those style frames which I really like. Very low SW so I'm anticipating some weight in the hoop to get SW up to around 335, plus weight in/on handle to get balance around 315 mm.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
The 16x19 is what Wilson needs in the Ultra Tour. 62 RA. Did I read that right?

Is there a difference between a LTD and Limited? I thought they were used interchangeably and no one seems to be using the full model name which includes ATP.

If Wilson made an Ultra Tour in 16x19, it would basically be an H22 and I'd be fully onboard with it. The Ultra Tour 18x20 is a good control frame, but at 63RA, it's just not flexible enough for me.

I'm going to wait for the 61RA Dunlop Srixon Revo CX 2.0 Tour 18x20. It's going to be a very challenging racquet to use being 95" and 18x20, much like a 200G, but I like the low flex.

Sub 60RA like the previous 315 ATP LTD 16M iteration may be a thing of the past. The new DC 315 LTD is indeed 62RA across both string patterned frames.
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
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I talk about that racquet, the Tecnifibre TFight 315 Ltd. TP ATP 18 Main.
This is the racquet which I compare with Babolat Pure Control 95 and Pro Kennex Redondo Type C98.

Could you publish a link / photo of the LTD. racquet that you're talking about?
That is the older Limited racket here are links to the new racket.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tec...Ltd_Racquet_16x19/descpageRCTFUSA-L31516.html
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tec...Ltd_Racquet_18x20/descpageRCTFUSA-L31518.html

Notice the Thread name DC 315 LTD The DC is also telling you it is the newer racket the older Limited racket had no Dynacore.

EDIT: Here are the older rackets you're talking about
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/reviews/315L16/315L16review.html
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/315L18/315L18Review.html
 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
Is there a difference between a LTD and Limited? I thought they were used interchangeably and no one seems to be using the full model name which includes ATP.

If Wilson made an Ultra Tour in 16x19, it would basically be an H22 and I'd be fully onboard with it. The Ultra Tour 18x20 is a good control frame, but at 63RA, it's just not flexible enough for me.

I'm going to wait for the 61RA Dunlop Srixon Revo CX 2.0 Tour 18x20. It's going to be a very challenging racquet to use being 95" and 18x20, much like a 200G, but I like the low flex.

Sub 60RA like the previous 315 ATP LTD 16M iteration may be a thing of the past. The new DC 315 LTD is indeed 62RA across both string patterned frames.

Don't let the numbers trick you, the UT plays much softer than its RA according to most playtesters. Still, of course the other racquets look very interesting indeed so don't rule them out either without giving them a try.
 

anhboa2

Rookie
Is there a difference between a LTD and Limited? I thought they were used interchangeably and no one seems to be using the full model name which includes ATP.

If Wilson made an Ultra Tour in 16x19, it would basically be an H22 and I'd be fully onboard with it. The Ultra Tour 18x20 is a good control frame, but at 63RA, it's just not flexible enough for me.

I'm going to wait for the 61RA Dunlop Srixon Revo CX 2.0 Tour 18x20. It's going to be a very challenging racquet to use being 95" and 18x20, much like a 200G, but I like the low flex.

Sub 60RA like the previous 315 ATP LTD 16M iteration may be a thing of the past. The new DC 315 LTD is indeed 62RA across both string patterned frames.


You think only 2pt RA can help that much ??
 

Simplicius

Semi-Pro
That is the older Limited racket here are links to the new racket.
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tec...Ltd_Racquet_16x19/descpageRCTFUSA-L31516.html
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tec...Ltd_Racquet_18x20/descpageRCTFUSA-L31518.html

Notice the Thread name DC 315 LTD The DC is also telling you it is the newer racket the older Limited racket had no Dynacore.

EDIT: Here are the older rackets you're talking about
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/reviews/315L16/315L16review.html
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Reviews/315L18/315L18Review.html

Yes, I understand. I've played with the "old" Ltd only.

When @mark1 quote that El_Yotamo post...

I just noticed this while scrolling through TW! Seems like pretty much the same thing as the original 315 LTD. What do y'all think?
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Tecnifibreracquets.html

How does this stick, in both string patterns, compare to the pure control 95 and pro kennex redondo MP? I'm a big fan of both sticks, but liked the feel of the pure control 95 (pure storm ltd) more.I'm tempted by the 16x19 315 ltd. I'm a 4.5 with a big whippy forehand just coming back after a few years off needing new gear.

I think that time that he's speaking about the old well-known one.

Anyway, whats the difference about those two?
Can anyone compare the 2013 mod. and the latter?
 

Irvin

Talk Tennis Guru
I've played with both and don't see a big difference except for the grip. The Limited was leather and the LTD is synthetic. I've seen posts where some thing the LTD has a TK82S pallet where the Limited had a Tk82. I'm not sure what type pallet is on the new LTD. The old Limited had no Dynacore the new LTD does and it appears to be a little stiffer. Not sure how else the layup may have changed. They are both built in the same mold I'm pretty sure which means dimension are identical, and therefore the old and new grommets are interchangeable. And of course there's the paint jobs which are different.
 

zill

Legend
I've played with both and don't see a big difference except for the grip. The Limited was leather and the LTD is synthetic. I've seen posts where some thing the LTD has a TK82S pallet where the Limited had a Tk82. I'm not sure what type pallet is on the new LTD. The old Limited had no Dynacore the new LTD does and it appears to be a little stiffer. Not sure how else the layup may have changed. They are both built in the same mold I'm pretty sure which means dimension are identical, and therefore the old and new grommets are interchangeable. And of course there's the paint jobs which are different.

It seems the throat on the DC is a bit narrower??
 

zill

Legend
I see what you're saying I'll have to compare side by side with real rackets and not pics.

From experience that is a pretty good indicator of throat width as I'm really into racquets with narrower throats (single handed backhand)!
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
Mine shipped today. Looking forward to trying this one out. You may also not believe it (I'm sort of surprised at myself as well) I have one of the older Limited 18M rackets here brand new that I haven't even strung or hit yet. They are still available new from TWE.

Edit: Just checked and TWE is only grip size 2 now.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
Mine shipped today. Looking forward to trying this one out. You may also not believe it (I'm sort of surprised at myself as well) I have one of the older Limited 18M rackets here brand new that I haven't even strung or hit yet. They are still available new from TWE.

Edit: Just checked and TWE is only grip size 2 now.

Do you know where I could still find the older TF 315 ATP LTD 16x19 with 4 3/8 grip?
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
Do you know where I could still find the older TF 315 ATP LTD 16x19 with 4 3/8 grip?

Not off hand sorry. They might be available on the bay. I saw them new for a good price through TWE and it's one of those iconic rackets I wanted to have for collection if nothing else. If people are saying that they are using Head pallets then you could consider just changing then to the size 3. The buttcap would be different of course, but you may be able to get a Tecnifibre one to restore the aesthetic.
 

zill

Legend
Not off hand sorry. They might be available on the bay. I saw them new for a good price through TWE and it's one of those iconic rackets I wanted to have for collection if nothing else. If people are saying that they are using Head pallets then you could consider just changing then to the size 3. The buttcap would be different of course, but you may be able to get a Tecnifibre one to restore the aesthetic.

Are technifibre handles the same as the head's?
 

Tordne

Semi-Pro
Are technifibre handles the same as the head's?

That's what has been implied in this thread. The TK82 is the classic Head rectangular shape (Prestige, Radical) while the TK82S is the round Head shape (Speed and Extreme). I haven't stripped down a Tecnifibre racket previously so can't tell you first hand. Nor if that is common all all Tecnifibre rackets or maybe just these LTD/Limited editions.
 

zill

Legend
That's what has been implied in this thread. The TK82 is the classic Head rectangular shape (Prestige, Radical) while the TK82S is the round Head shape (Speed and Extreme). I haven't stripped down a Tecnifibre racket previously so can't tell you first hand. Nor if that is common all all Tecnifibre rackets or maybe just these LTD/Limited editions.

So that would be suggesting there is some sort of collaboration between technifire and head. Is there evidence for that?
 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
So that would be suggesting there is some sort of collaboration between technifire and head. Is there evidence for that?

More like Tecnifibre using head's molds to appeal to the customer base. But if you wanna call that collaboration you can ;)
 
I probably play consistently better with other racquets that are less demanding and ready to go out of the box without much customization, but man do the Ltds (old version, don’t know about the new ones yet) feel amazing when I’m on my A game. It’s the closest thing we can get to a 16x19 version of the pt57a like Murray uses no? I wonder if head will ever sell that to the public for $400 or something crazy like that.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
I probably play consistently better with other racquets that are less demanding and ready to go out of the box without much customization, but man do the Ltds (old version, don’t know about the new ones yet) feel amazing when I’m on my A game. It’s the closest thing we can get to a 16x19 version of the pt57a like Murray uses no? I wonder if head will ever sell that to the public for $400 or something crazy like that.

I think you're right about the older 315 LTD 16M being the closest retail frame to Murray's PT57A2. It still won't be as stable or flexible as his since the Tec doesn't use CAP grommets and is 59RA while his is reportedly 56RA.
 

TennisHound

Legend
I know it's not sub 60RA, and it's not the previous version, but this seems like a totally cool racquet IMO.

What a breath of fresh air. Just when we thought Head would ruin all these other companies with their Graphene idea, Wilson comes out with the Ultra Tour, and now Tecnifibre comes out with this.
 
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Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
The 16x19 is what Wilson needs in the Ultra Tour. 62 RA. Did I read that right?

I'm guessing (but absolutely no actual knowledge on the matter) that we might see that model appear next year or once they have seen how the 18x20 goes... that's the one I'm waiting for... and if I'm wrong... maybe the 18x20 will be on sale... I just have to keep repeating...Patience... patience...Wait for it.... :D:D;)
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Is there a difference between a LTD and Limited? I thought they were used interchangeably and no one seems to be using the full model name which includes ATP.

If Wilson made an Ultra Tour in 16x19, it would basically be an H22 and I'd be fully onboard with it. The Ultra Tour 18x20 is a good control frame, but at 63RA, it's just not flexible enough for me.

I'm going to wait for the 61RA Dunlop Srixon Revo CX 2.0 Tour 18x20. It's going to be a very challenging racquet to use being 95" and 18x20, much like a 200G, but I like the low flex.

Sub 60RA like the previous 315 ATP LTD 16M iteration may be a thing of the past. The new DC 315 LTD is indeed 62RA across both string patterned frames.

I think the H22 is a different model... a 16x19 Ultra Tour would be like a PT57A/PT57E with a 16x19 (Murray) string pattern...

Regarding the RA never going below 60.... never say never...
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I've played with both and don't see a big difference except for the grip. The Limited was leather and the LTD is synthetic. I've seen posts where some thing the LTD has a TK82S pallet where the Limited had a Tk82. I'm not sure what type pallet is on the new LTD. The old Limited had no Dynacore the new LTD does and it appears to be a little stiffer. Not sure how else the layup may have changed. They are both built in the same mold I'm pretty sure which means dimension are identical, and therefore the old and new grommets are interchangeable. And of course there's the paint jobs which are different.

You didn't happen to have a little peek underneath the pallet of the LTD... did you? Any codes printed, if anyone knows? These ones don't say Tour Prepared... is that just a change in labeling (not putting it anymore on their racquets ) or are these not as strict on the QC?
 

TennisHound

Legend
Yeah... but there is a difference between the DC 315 and the DC 315LTD... Not the same racquet... different SW, Stiffness, and Beam width...
Yeah, you're right. I missed that earlier, until I went over to TW and saw it. I'm very excited about these racquets (DC 315 Ltd, Ultra Tour). I will probably be more excited about the Prince after I try it. I don't think I've ever hit with something that has a 56RA. Maybe my Jack Kramer Autograph OS back in the day?
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Yeah, you're right. I missed that earlier, until I went over to TW and saw it. I'm very excited about these racquets (DC 315 Ltd, Ultra Tour). I will probably be more excited about the Prince after I try it. I don't think I've ever hit with something that has a 56RA. Maybe my Jack Kramer Autograph OS back in the day?

Yeah, I know @TennisHound (about the different racquet options coming out)... I'm also excited to hear reviews for this new LTD version, as well as, reviews of the Dunlop Srixon Tour 18x20 version. Have a look at the Mizuno C-Series 310g racquet (discussed in the "Mizuno still in Production" thread)... also looks awesome... May be a Japan Only model though and the conversion rate kills it for me (in Australia)...
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Yeah, you're right. I missed that earlier, until I went over to TW and saw it. I'm very excited about these racquets (DC 315 Ltd, Ultra Tour). I will probably be more excited about the Prince after I try it. I don't think I've ever hit with something that has a 56RA. Maybe my Jack Kramer Autograph OS back in the day?

I got the last Grip size 3 Tfight 315 Limited 18 Mains from TWE when they had an additional 15% off sale, as I wasn't sure what this new LTD would be like or the RA etc (before it came out)... Haven't strung it yet... now going to look for the 16 Mains version (after I see if I like the racquet or not - after Mods)...
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
I got the last Grip size 3 Tfight 315 Limited 18 Mains from TWE when they had an additional 15% off sale, as I wasn't sure what this new LTD would be like or the RA etc (before it came out)... Haven't strung it yet... now going to look for the 16 Mains version (after I see if I like the racquet or not - after Mods)...

I'm in the same boat as you and also looking for the old TF 315 LTD 16M 59RA. It's mainly the flex that interests me.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
I think the H22 is a different model... a 16x19 Ultra Tour would be like a PT57A/PT57E with a 16x19 (Murray) string pattern...

Regarding the RA never going below 60.... never say never...

Do you know if Coric is really playing with a 16x19 H19 or is his an H22? The H19 is 21mm and H22 is 22mm. The default string pattern for H19's are 18x20 and 16x19 for the H22. That's why I thought a 16x19 Ultra Tour would be made using the H22 mold.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Do you know if Coric is really playing with a 16x19 H19 or is his an H22? The H19 is 21mm and H22 is 22mm. The default string pattern for H19's are 18x20 and 16x19 for the H22. That's why I thought a 16x19 Ultra Tour would be made using the H22 mold.

I think the moulds are different between the two... I believe that the H22 is also different in the throat area (wider and more rounded near the handle)... but I'm certain there are bigger Wilson Pro Stock experts on TT then myself...

I think that if Coric is playing with a 16x19... it would be the H19 version... that's why I'm hoping it comes out at a later stage... hopefully everyone goes nuts about the 18x20 Ultra Tour and therefore Wilson decided this is a worthwhile cash cow... and releases an Ultra Tour 16x19... causing another frenzy... and a spate of selling on certain re-sale sites of the 18x20... at substantial discounts... :D;)

Back to the 315LTD...
 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
I know it's not sub 60RA, and it's not the previous version, but this seems like a totally cool racquet IMO.

What a breath of fresh air. Just when we thought Head would ruin all these other companies with their Graphene idea, Wilson comes out with the Ultra Tour, and now Tecnifibre comes out with this.

Not to mention Dunlop Srixon as well
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
I know it's not sub 60RA, and it's not the previous version, but this seems like a totally cool racquet IMO.

What a breath of fresh air. Just when we thought Head would ruin all these other companies with their Graphene idea, Wilson comes out with the Ultra Tour, and now Tecnifibre comes out with this.

Not to mention Dunlop Srixon as well

Does anyone know when Head plans to release the new Prestiges since they skipped the USO? It's almost always during a slam, so does this mean we have to wait until February 2018? Details are so scarce and the Head rep hasn't posted anything new lately besides the MXG.

I wouldn't be surprised if it'll all be a let down and we have to wait for another generation of Prestiges in 2019 or 2020 before they come to their senses.

Then again, Head could completely disrupt the control frame market by releasing a true PT57A. They wouldn't even need to use high quality pro stock layup material and have a 56RA like Murray's racquet. Use Twaron and have it at 59RA in both 16x19 like Murray's and 18x20 and they'll have many happy customers.
 
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AllCourtHeathen

Guest
Are technifibre handles the same as the head's?
Yep.
TW sell the tk82 pallets, and head buttcaps (with trapdoor) to suit.
I swapped to the tk82s on one of my tecs, and although my eastern forehand and 1hbh felt great, i lost my serve and volleys. The Tk82 felt much better to me, so i had it changed back but just went up to 4 1/2 in size. The head buttcap is good as you can add blutak or silicon as required if tinkering.

Hopefully the new release has the tk82. Cannot wait to try one out.
 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
Does anyone know when Head plans to release the new Prestiges since they skipped the USO? It's almost always during a slam, so does this mean we have to wait until February 2018? Details are so scarce and the Head rep hasn't posted anything new lately besides the MXG.

I wouldn't be surprised if it'll all be a let down and we have to wait for another generation of Prestiges in 2019 or 2020 before they come to their senses.

Then again, Head could completely disrupt the control frame market by releasing a true PT57A. They wouldn't even need to use high quality pro stock layup material and have a 56RA like Murray's racquet. Use Twaron and have it at 59RA in both 16x19 like Murray's and 18x20 and they'll have many happy customers.

If I remember correctly, the new Radicals have been released in October/November, ane the Prestiges would follow in January/February.

I completely agree on the PT57 mention. They have many options to make customers happy by simply using some Aramid fiber and older mold/design, they've simply chosen not to in some attempt to get younger players to switch to the Radicals and Prestiges. Being one of those younger players, I'll say it definitely hasn't worked on me or any of my friends (in fact most of my friends using a Radical/Prestige switched away).
 

skuludo

Professional
I'm in the same boat as you and also looking for the old TF 315 LTD 16M 59RA. It's mainly the flex that interests me.

You won't like the feel of it either. It doesn't flex enough in the throat. It's more of a uniform flex like the Ultra Tour. You also won't like the Head Pro Tour 630 either, which has the same kind of flex. What you will like is the flex of the Wilson Matrix, which has a 85 head size. This racket flexes a lot at the throat. Another racket would be the Prince Original Graphite and the updates after the NX line, which is the tour 100 series including the Prince Phantom. You could also try Vantage Bastcore rackets, which have a flex in the 40s. This one is discontinued and it was branded under Angell's old name Vantage.
 

anhboa2

Rookie
Yep.
TW sell the tk82 pallets, and head buttcaps (with trapdoor) to suit.
I swapped to the tk82s on one of my tecs, and although my eastern forehand and 1hbh felt great, i lost my serve and volleys. The Tk82 felt much better to me, so i had it changed back but just went up to 4 1/2 in size. The head buttcap is good as you can add blutak or silicon as required if tinkering.

Hopefully the new release has the tk82. Cannot wait to try one out.


Wait ........
Where did you get the tk82s, bother to give me a link pls bro ?
 
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