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AllCourtHeathen
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My coach had it and fitted it for me. No idea where he got it, though i can ask him next lesson i have.
DC 315 LTD (!!)
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My coach had it and fitted it for me. No idea where he got it, though i can ask him next lesson i have.
Irvin
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No I did not. The old Limited frames were TK82
Tordne
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Pallets on TWE. http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/catpage-PALMEN.html. And buttcap http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/Head_Standard_Butt_Cap_Grey__Black/descpageHEAD-HSBCAPB.html
Not seeing them on TW anymore. I’ve also gotten them from stringersworld https://www.stringersworld.com/tennis/stringing-tools/head-handle-pallet-system/
Not seeing them on TW anymore. I’ve also gotten them from stringersworld https://www.stringersworld.com/tennis/stringing-tools/head-handle-pallet-system/
Classic-TXP-IG MID
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Thanks for answering @Irvin ... what I meant was the old 315 Limited had a code of PT965 on the pin... Does this version have something similar or not...? I think from your previous answer, we can also conclude you didn't peek there either (no need to answer)... All the best
Irvin
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That is the mold # and in order to see that you must take off the pallet. I thought I was told the old and new frames had the same mold. Now with people saying the throats is different and the thickness is different I'm not so sure anymore. I will say this though, for a limited production frame frame I can't see Tecnifibre tooling up with a new mold and grommets. A quick way to see is if anyone buys any grommets the mold number is on the package.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
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I'm hoping they just saw how well the 315 Limited was received and for the new one decided to give it a new paint job and add Dynacore instead of Texalium (which may be responsible for the increased RA). The thickness of the beam seems to be the same... the specs are almost identical... a point here and there...
Irvin
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My guess, Tecnifibre is making a mistake with the new LTD frame. I doubt the new frame will do as well as the older version Limited frame simply because there are not going to be as many (buy them while you can) and there will be limited places where you can get these frames. You not going to be able to go down to you local sporting goods store to demo or buy one of these rackets and many people or going to shell out $179 (or more) for these frame without being able to demo them first.
One has to remember this is a 'limited production' frame. It's not meant for everyone but there are players out there that really like this frame.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
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Just might mean it goes on sale sooner... bonus
Irvin
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If it does it won't come back. That's why I think they're making a mistake.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
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Let's see what the reviews are like... maybe there will be enough positivity to keep people interested... $179 is better than $249...
mavsman149
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Are they truly "Limited" though? The original 2013 version was pretty easy to find new until about 2-3 weeks ago
Imago
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Tommy Haas
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Yes, the 1RA difference between the DC 315 LTD and Ultra Tour is nothing, but the $70 is something.
Tommy Haas
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It's limited in the sense of being a frame targeted to a limited set of users and low production numbers. True limited production numbers, including racquets are usually individually numbered.
Irvin
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They are truely limited. The last shipment of the old Version of the 2103 Limited frames brought into the US was limited to 500 rackets. I think this time the number of frames is even less. I was trying to get a new one in a 1/2" and they are all gone. You can get them from the big suppliers that carry these rackets but you can not get them from TecnifibreUSA. Once a distributor like TW sells out of 1/2" rackets guess what happens.
EDIT: I'm considering buying any grip size and changing out the pallet.
EDIT: Also the Limited frame was much more popular in the US than it was in Europe. So the Limited frames started going on sale in Europe long before they did in the US which meant the frame were hard to sell in the US because of the higher price. Try buying a Tec TFight 315 LTD DC racket on TWE now. They are calling the old Limited frame the Ltd but they are not the same and there are only 2 18 main rackets left.
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mavsman149
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Shoot, maybe I should consider buying some sooner rather than later then. Luckily I use 4 1/4 which is a bit easier to get, I bet these rackets skyrocket in value on the secondary market in the coming years.
Tommy Haas
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mavsman149
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I'm just not jumping on these new ones as I literally bought all three of my 2013 version in the last 2 months and I'm loving them haha. I'll absolutely eventually get a few of these too though.
Irvin
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If you're buying them for an investment buy grommets not rackets. Wha do you think everyone will pay for grommets when they are all gone and they need one? These rackets will only go one sale if nobody likes them. And if nobody like them why do you think you will. Why so you think @JohnBPittsburgh bought 14 of the old Limited rackets? He's a gambler.
Irvin
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Used I could sell you two if I were inclined but I am going to keep mine. You could try to PM @JohnBPittsburgh.
I found two lightly used demos of the 2013 18x20 in L3 at tennis xpress in Houston, and bought them for 59.99+ tax.
I'd rather the leather grip and the cost of the new one is annoying.
I'll try em out and if I don't like them I'll happily sell them for what I paid to someone on here.
I'd rather the leather grip and the cost of the new one is annoying.
I'll try em out and if I don't like them I'll happily sell them for what I paid to someone on here.
nohandedbackhand
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Tommy send me a pm
mavsman149
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Haha, not buying them for an investment, buying them because I love the racket. I was just commenting that eventually they will probably start selling for a pretty penny when they stop making this line.
o0lunatik
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Gosh, what's with all of the new dampened frame innovation lately? Have all the recent modern, stiff frames gotten to everyone, and now makers are pushing dampened, arm-healthy frames to dictate and "heal" the market? Just a thought as I have not been sold on the recent dampened technologies, and in my opinion and subjective of course, my experience is that dampened = less feel.
Irvin
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Possible IF they stop making the line. But IMHO I believe there will always be a great racket out there and the LTD is one of several.
EDIT: Then again if that 1 of several just happens to be the 1/several that perfectly fits your game it is priceless.
BaronVonSlam
Rookie
Got to take out the new 315LTD 16x19 for about an hour of hitting. Was pretty impressed - obviously, at around 310 SW it masks it's 11.7oz weight very well. Very plush feel, and much more stable than i expected. Good pop, albeit my launch angle was a little higher than i am used to, i think with some adjustments i should be fine. I particularly enjoyed this with my OHBH, both slice and topspin. Spin generation was about what i would expect with a 16x19 pattern. Did not get a chance to serve extensively with it yet. While i initially contemplated putting in a leather grip and perhaps some weight in the hoop, i think I could play with this racquet in stock form and be fine. as a side note, i got two frames, did not use matching service. bother were about 1gm of each other (314.5 and 315 spot on) and ~10pts headlight unstrung.
BaronVonSlam
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oh yeah - strung this with Cyclone 17G at 50lb (i use this or Hyper G whenever i want to do an apples to apples comparison to my past racquets as I am most familiar with those strings). Was very comfortable - i may consider stringing up the other with a hybrid just to see how it performs (likely a multi/poly hybrid first, then maybe a gut/ply next)
BaronVonSlam
Rookie
curious - did you get the 16x19 or the 18x20?
BaronVonSlam
Rookie
another quick update - got to play some doubles with the 16x19 - still really impressed with this racquet. kick serves were great, was able to try out different service returns (blocking back vs more aggressive topspin swings). one small thing - i initially struggled with my overheads - i framed the first two - i suspect given the low swingweight of the frame my timing was off a bit, but i was able to adjust pretty quickly. overall impressions thus far- very comfortable plush feel, easy to swing and still loving this with my OHBH.
langdon0555
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Curious to hear feedback on how the new one plays and how it compares to the old version?
Tommy Haas
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The old TF 315 LTD 16x19 with 59RA was described to me once as feeling like a flexible metal pole. I'm curious if anyone else thinks it feels both harsh and flexible. Maybe it needs to leaded in the hoop or the leather grip replaced with a synthetic. I think a racquet can be both and there are differences between plush and flexible. The PK Heritage Type C98 Redondo is an example of a flexible (57RA) yet harsh feeling frame.
BaronVonSlam
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speaking about the new one (i have not hit the older one) - you can tell if you do not hit the sweetspot, but I would not describe it as a harsh feeling like i would compared to something like a VSense 10 Tour that i recently hit. I initially thought about adding some lead to the hoop of the 315LTD (as well as a leather grip), but frankly I am ok with playing with it in stock form
Interesting. I did not feel like the redondo felt harsh. I playtested it along with a Wilson 6.1 95 and had no issues with the redondo but noticeable pain with the Wilson in my shoulder.
But everyone has different tolerances.
I have a set of demo 315 ltd 18x20 frames I have yet to try, but will report back. Plan is to strong with poly in the high 40s, which is what I usually use.
tennis347
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I have to agree with you as I recently bought this racquet due to low flex rating but was disappointed. The sweet spot is quite small and shots outside that are felt a little uncomfortable on my shoulder. I added 3 grams of lead tape at 2 and 10 as well added an overgrip. The racquet is very low powered and I had it strung with Gosen Micro 16 at 57lbs.
I was actually looking at the Volkl V Sense 10 Tour but if is jarring on off center hits, you just saved me the trouble of trying this frame.
I have to tell you that I have been using the Boris Becker Delta Core London for the last number of years with some customization. As far as player's frames go, it is certainly a classic. Nice flex, touch, spin and low-medium power. Luckily I have 5 of these racquets. I think it's time to stop searching for the racquet of the holy grail as it doesn't exist.
BaronVonSlam
Rookie
you know the search never really ends...i am coming back to the game from an extended break (like 15 years)- and my search for a racquet was more like a random walk through the forest. narrowing in on a range of specs that i enjoy but always open to seeing what's out there.
Tommy Haas
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Also stay away from the Volkl V-Sense 8 because it's also very harsh like the V-Sense 10 Tour. The V-Sense 8 has a crazy 70RA. I've hit with it and it really does feel that stiff.
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AllCourtHeathen
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LOL the same, I've been playing properly for about two years now, and have gone on a journey through Jurassic Park trying to whittle down what racquet I like.
Yonex SV95 is a great racquet, but the tec315 is easily the best thing I've used. I really want to like the 16x19 string pattern for a little extra spin on 2nd serves, but just cannot seem to hit with it, the 18x20 weighted up to 355gms with gut/poly is a weapon.
Sitting on my hands waiting to see if they are going to release the new 315 in Australia. Going to get one of each string pattern for starters. Seriously tempted to get an Angell as well, the tc95 sounds like a great player's frame.
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@AllCourtHeathen have you tried any of the Made in Austria Head racquets from the 90's, like the PT630, Radical Tour 630 (Bumblebee and/or Zebra and Candycane)? If so, what are your thoughts and how do they compare with the Tec 315 Limited? Thanks
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AllCourtHeathen
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I haven't tried any of those luxury classics, sorry to tell you mate.
My coach put me onto the 315ltd and said it was similar to the pt57a IIRC.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
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Thanks for your reply @AllCourtHeathen... On a separate note... love the photos you use for your avatar... your previous one was the inspiration for my owl...
I play the 16x19 limited and own several PT57As that I used for 6-7 years. They are not really that similar in my opinion. The PT57A is much softer and flexes a bit differently. The LTD has more power and has a smaller sweet spot. But I get more spin out of the LTD which is a nice little bonus. But the LTD does play much better after adding a bit of lead to it, all my frames are matched at 27.5" in length, 360g strung (includes leather and overgrip). I have been busy this week and haven't hit, but I have my new LTD strung up and will hopefully hit with it this weekend and give some comparisons (I haven't modified it yet, want to see how it hits before I go down that road).
Tommy Haas
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There's just something about the PT57A feel that's unmatched. The Tec TF 315 LTD 16M has more spin because of the 16x19 string pattern obviously, but Head has an answer for that. It's the PT57A2 which has a 16x19 pattern instead. It's truly the holy grail of pro stock frames and a rainbow unicorn. I've yet to see one for sale on the grey market.
Andy Murray is the only player that I know who uses it and he seems to keep them all. There's another thread where someone re-posted pics of him and all his PT57A2 frames and it looked like he had over a hundred of them. The guy just doesn't give his old racquets away or if he does the recipients are grateful and appreciative enough where they don't turn around and try to make a buck off of it.
Andy Murray is the only player that I know who uses it and he seems to keep them all. There's another thread where someone re-posted pics of him and all his PT57A2 frames and it looked like he had over a hundred of them. The guy just doesn't give his old racquets away or if he does the recipients are grateful and appreciative enough where they don't turn around and try to make a buck off of it.
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AllCourtHeathen
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I don't know that feel....
LOL! Andy McMurray breathing life into the stereotype of the miserly Scotsman
NickShot
Rookie
I have had the PT57A2 and it was 18x20 pattern. PT57A2 refers to the lay up not the string pattern. There is A1 and A3 as well but I have read that A2 is closest in feel and flex to the original Pro Tour 630.
Irvin
Talk Tennis Guru
The DC 315 LTD does not have silicone in the handle (Tour Prepared,) it is foam filled from head to butt, and it has a TK82 Pallet.
EDIT: It appears to me the measurements of the 2013 Limited frames and the 2017 LTD frames are identical. Using my micrometer I found only a few 1/100th mm difference in several locations.
EDIT: It appears to me the measurements of the 2013 Limited frames and the 2017 LTD frames are identical. Using my micrometer I found only a few 1/100th mm difference in several locations.
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