Dead string?

[Rudi Bergner]

Hello everyone,
I’ve posted before about this problem, and it keeps happening.

my Raquet isn’t right, and it’s the strings.
I’ve been feeling the stringbed very muted for maybe an year now.
my arm suffers all over, lately I was getting used to the stiffer feeling of the string job no matter what tension it’s so stiff...
I’ve been playing with no arm pain for almost a mounth but with this last string job the pain is back.

I used to break a string in 3 days max..
This last one didn’t break training 5 days straight. Stringbed feels really muted, the strings open up in all directions. The tension feels dead, there’s no feeling just numbness.
It’s almost breaking but it won’t break because it has no tension.
I’m just killing my arm.
The string that is closer to break is the cross middle string. It happen before recently, the crosses breaking first ( polyester full stringbed.. same string..) I never broke a crossed poly before... and it happened twice already.

that tells me that: the string is not holding tension... or the tension isn’t really there in the first place.
If the mains where working as they should, they would be moving constantly and they would break first like it should.
In two day the string starts to move a lot and feels dead.

I discussed this here before and I had a theory that the tension is not the same in all strings due to slippery clamps.

no one complaints, just me.
He strings to advanced competitors, but they don’t use the one string job more than 1/2 days.

but I know I’m not insane... I changed string and racket more than I should... and the result is always the same.
I train everyday, I have decent strokes so I can’t be crazy. If something isn’t right I can tell.

I need to know I’m not crazy.
Someone has experience with this kind of problems?
I’ll be glad to hear from anyone.

(next step, that I’m trying to avoid, is switch stringer)

hugs

 

[golden chicken]

Switch stringer or string for yourself.

Even if it's temporary, at least you'll eliminate that variable.

 

[TagUrIt]

Switch stringer or string for yourself.

Even if it's temporary, at least you'll eliminate that variable.

+1

100% agree. I started stringing for myself about 8 months ago. It’s not nearly as hard as it seems and having access/ability to restring whenever and how often you want is invaluable!

 

[OldManStan]

You know what they say...
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

 

[PaddyDutch]

If you train every day and break strings in 3 to 4 days it makes all the sense in the world to string your own racquets. Even if you were satisfied with your current stringer.

 

[Rudi Bergner]

I m thinking about buying a string machine.
a manual one, but I have no idea what to get.
But I think I’ll do that.
Seems hard but I’ll try

 

[Arak]

Buy Racquettune app or an analog tension meter and check your string tensions off the stringer and after each playing session. Only then you can be sure that your suspicions are warranted or not.

 

[esm]

I m thinking about buying a string machine.
a manual one, but I have no idea what to get.
But I think I’ll do that.
Seems hard but I’ll try

that is a good idea/option.
depends on where you are and which brand(s) has good after sale support.
either a lockout or a drop weight would be a good start - i think this is one of the things that you buy the best one you can afford (either pre-owned or new).

 

[Traffic]

I m thinking about buying a string machine.
a manual one, but I have no idea what to get.
But I think I’ll do that.
Seems hard but I’ll try

Seems like a logical step. During tennis season, my son would break his strings every week so I'm constantly stringing a racquet. Check used machines first. Lots of folks pick up a DW machine and can't really groove with it. Should find some good deals there.

As far as your dead poly goes, sometimes you get a string or stringing where it just doesn't break. But the strings have already lost all its elasticity. Cut it out and re-string.

 

[Rudi Bergner]

Seems like a logical step. During tennis season, my son would break his strings every week so I'm constantly stringing a racquet. Check used machines first. Lots of folks pick up a DW machine and can't really groove with it. Should find some good deals there.

As far as your dead poly goes, sometimes you get a string or stringing where it just doesn't break. But the strings have already lost all its elasticity. Cut it out and re-string.

Yes, strings lose tension and become dead but in my experience it can’t happen in 2or 3 days... I used to use the same string 1 week more or less and the tension drops of course but being muted, completely dull and the crosses break first. This can’t happen. At least never happened before. Really strange.

 

[Traffic]

Same string? Same stringer? Just once? Could get a bad string job. Have you re-strung? Is it better?

 

[Rudi Bergner]

Same string? Same stringer? Just once? Could get a bad string job. Have you re-strung? Is it better?

This has been happening for months now.
It was getting better but the last raquet was again so bad, that my arm got completely destroyed.

my theory is that his clamps are slippery but no one else complaints. Maybe because they use the string just one day or two and they don’t notice. (He strings for a lot of young “pro” Players.)

 

[Traffic]

This has been happening for months now.
It was getting better but the last raquet was again so bad, that my arm got completely destroyed.

my theory is that his clamps are slippery but no one else complaints. Maybe because they use the string just one day or two and they don’t notice. (He strings for a lot of young “pro” Players.)

Wow. Not sure what to say. I can tell when my clamps are slipping immediately. It's not like they slowly or incrementally slip. They SLIP with a clank!! But yeah, a routine of cleaning clamp and tensioner is required.

 

[LocNetMonster]

I m thinking about buying a string machine.
a manual one, but I have no idea what to get.
But I think I’ll do that.
Seems hard but I’ll try

Realistically, if you are restringing more than eight times a year and planning to just string for yourself, get a drop weight machine.

 

[LocNetMonster]

Hello everyone,
I’ve posted before about this problem, and it keeps happening.

my Raquet isn’t right, and it’s the strings.
I’ve been feeling the stringbed very muted for maybe an year now.
my arm suffers all over, lately I was getting used to the stiffer feeling of the string job no matter what tension it’s so stiff...
I’ve been playing with no arm pain for almost a mounth but with this last string job the pain is back.

What racquet and strings???

 

[Rudi Bergner]

What racquet and strings???

EZONE 98 2017/18 model, a bit stiff on top.
Strings have been so many and the result is the same... hyper g, Prince xtc, black code, luxilon, hybrid, etc etc

yes my idea is getting a fairly good drop weight machine. Not very expensive.

 

[just out]

I recommend drop weight all the time, I have been using the same one for over 20 years and string for myself, son and friends and I have never had to replace a part or the clamps. As long as you do things consistently you will get the same results each time. I found tensions on the drop weight seen to be a couple of pounds lower than constant pull.

 

[Folsom_Stringer_Musa]

Couple of points I would like to bring:
1) Tighter string bed would mean less power and would require more power from you.
Generating this power can cause some arm issue - though somewhat depend on physique and technique.

2) When string loses tension, it will provide more pop which is likely to reduce stress on arm.

3) If I had arm issues, I would stay away from stiff poly or poly (if needed) until fully recovered.

What tension are you putting these polys in main\cross?

If these Poly keeps hurting your arm, you may need to change string, tension or racket etc.
Musa

 

[golden chicken]

I recommend drop weight all the time, I have been using the same one for over 20 years and string for myself, son and friends and I have never had to replace a part or the clamps. As long as you do things consistently you will get the same results each time. I found tensions on the drop weight seen to be a couple of pounds lower than constant pull.

Technically speaking, a drop weight stringing machine IS a constant pull machine.

 

[just out]

Technically speaking, a drop weight stringing machine IS a constant pull machine.

Technically speaking yes but practically I usually see a tension difference especially with strings that stretch during stringing, with drop weight often I may not allow enough time on each pull for that length of string to fully stretch and equilibrate or if I allowed more time for the weight to settle it would drop below level or to the table I'm stringing on. I should adjust and pull again but I usually don't. With different constant pull machine this doesn't happen.

 

[Folsom_Stringer_Musa]

Technically speaking yes but practically I usually see a tension difference especially with strings that stretch during stringing, with drop weight often I may not allow enough time on each pull for that length of string to fully stretch and equilibrate or if I allowed more time for the weight to settle it would drop below level or to the table I'm stringing on. I should adjust and pull again but I usually don't. With different constant pull machine this doesn't happen.

DW would require readjusting the lever on each pull - almost always. If you skip it, tension will vary.

 

[LocNetMonster]

Strings have been so many and the result is the same... hyper g, Prince xtc, black code, luxilon, hybrid, etc etc

Two options:
One - Forget poly and try some multifilaments like NXT until you purchase a stringer and your arm heals. The softer string will be good on you arm and give you more pop that you are looking for.

Two - Add more mass to the racquet. If you like the balance as it is, add 1/2 ounce inside the grip and 1/2 on hoop. Play with it for a month. If it feels good leave it, if feels like you can go a little higher, add more weight.

FWIW, I had bad case of TE. When I added an extra overgrip and increase the overall weight of my racquets to 12.5 oz or more, my arm problems went away.

 

[Rudi Bergner]

Two options:
One - Forget poly and try some multifilaments like NXT until you purchase a stringer and your arm heals. The softer string will be good on you arm and give you more pop that you are looking for.

Two - Add more mass to the racquet. If you like the balance as it is, add 1/2 ounce inside the grip and 1/2 on hoop. Play with it for a month. If it feels good leave it, if feels like you can go a little higher, add more weight.

FWIW, I had bad case of TE. When I added an extra overgrip and increase the overall weight of my racquets to 12.5 oz or more, my arm problems went away.

The last stringed raquet teares my arm completely... the tensions was already dead but almost breaking... I tried to break it but it last longer because no tension no breaking right... and the pain went to my shoulder and now my fingers and wrist omg... ahah.

I installed silicone on the handle like 2 grams... another stringer did the job this time with volkl cyclone 17 I guess (softer than The ones I’ve been using, mainly solinco) and it got worse.
I feel the racket heavy (but that’s maybe because my arm is injured) the string felt even more mushy and muted, and this is because of the silicone I guess... it didn’t made the racket more comfortable, instead I think it got even more violent on my arm.

 

[Bagel Boy]

You know what they say...
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

You sure?

Isn't it: "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Aristotle, right?

 

[LocNetMonster]

The last stringed raquet teares my arm completely... the tensions was already dead but almost breaking... I tried to break it but it last longer because no tension no breaking right... and the pain went to my shoulder and now my fingers and wrist omg... ahah.

You need to play with a multi for awhile or at the very least nylon. How many hours had you played with that last setup?

I installed silicone on the handle like 2 grams... another stringer did the job this time with volkl cyclone 17 I guess (softer than The ones I’ve been using, mainly solinco) and it got worse.
I feel the racket heavy (but that’s maybe because my arm is injured) the string felt even more mushy and muted, and this is because of the silicone I guess... it didn’t made the racket more comfortable, instead I think it got even more violent on my arm.

The only reason it hurt your arm is because you didn't add weight to the hoop to maintain the original balance. You made it more headlight thus taking away some of your power, which force you to have to swing hard to get the same depth/penetration. I'd recommend adding 4 grams to the hoop. That will give you a little more plow and the pop you are looking for.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

You sure?

Isn't it: "Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Aristotle, right?

G.W. Aristotle I believe...