Dealing with hard deep shots

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  1. EddieBrock

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    How do you handle someone that consistently hits his shots within a foot or 2 of the baseline and hard with topspin? I'm not talking about a pusher hitting moonballs that deep. I mean regular shots with topspin.

    The person I hit with today played in college and also used to teach tennis several years ago. Last time we played just hitting cross court and to each other I could keep up because his shots were landing just past the service line. With the deeper shots I kept backing up several feet and moving back in. Am I supposed to just camp out way behind the baseline? That doesn't seem right either.

    This is not in a set type situation, but just feeding balls from the baseline.
     
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  2. IowaGuy

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    Welcome to the world of playing against a 5.0 player :)

    Just watch some videos of college players to see how they handle deep balls from other college players...
     
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    Get alot better. That’s how you deal with this kind of ball.
     
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    Either you sit ~4 feet behind the baseline or you get really good at taking the ball on the rise. High level players regularly sit around 3-4 players behind the baseline and only move up if they push their opponent back, which is honestly pretty difficult to do. You'll regularly see pros hitting around 4-5 feet behind the baseline. When the ball comes in really hard, deep, and with a ton of action, there's really not much else you can do.
     
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  5. S&V-not_dead_yet

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    You mean the magic pixie dust I bought at the swap meet isn't going to work??
     
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    BTW: welcome back; been away for a while?
     
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    Injury usually brings me back. Got nothing to do while I ice my shin thinking of tennis.

    Edit: Also wanted to see what people thought of Tsitsipas. But I totally got distracted and didn't even look him up in the threads.
     
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  8. EddieBrock

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    For some reason I kept thinking about the advice from Blair Henely about not camping out back behind the baseline vs. a pusher even though the guy I'm hitting with is definitely not a pusher. I was thinking maybe having an abbreviated backswing or something like that would help.

    I could definitely hang back 4-5 feet as he is not exactly the touch or finesse type player. I'm hopefully going to play with him again (if I didn't mess up too much hitting with him) so I can try it out
     
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  9. EddieBrock

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    Even when I play practice sets against pros I've never encountered someone who hits that hard and deep consistently. Of course the pros hit more variety, angles, height, etc. This guy was just hammering the same deep ball with topspin
     
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  10. West Coast Ace

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    Learn to half volley from the baseline; stand 6 ft or however far back to hit just after his shots crest; (for now) ask the guy to ease up a bit because he’s just too good for you - you didn’t play college tennis.
     
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    You play practice sets against current touring pros? Are you an open level player?
     
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  12. S&V-not_dead_yet

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    Maybe he meant club pros.
     
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    Swing early and slowly.
     
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  14. EddieBrock

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    I meant club pros. Not touring level. Wish I was that good!
     
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    Hey I took it to mean retired pros. I think my friend plays with someone who was ATP #4 every now and then at his club.
     
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  16. EddieBrock

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    That's really cool. I hit with some long retired pros like Villas years ago and played with some former low ranked pros at an exhibition event, but would love to be able to hit with someone at that level consistently.

    Last time we played the guy hadn't hit much and I was training like crazy and was able to keep up with him. He even commented that he didn't realize I was that good so he agreed to hit with me again. This time I just kept getting jammed, hitting late and had a great deal of trouble trying to get the ball back to him with all that depth. People usually comment on how consistent I am at cross court rallys, but this guy was just hitting near the line every time. When we played a few points from the baseline if I got him on the run I could get him to hit a short ball and win the point, but he just completely wore me down.

    Assuming he'd be willing to play with me again I want to get myself ready. One thing I figured out was I was tensing up with these shots. I also found this video at 3:08 he says to prepare before the ball bounces.

     
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  17. Big Bagel

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    4 options here:

    1) Stand back behind the baseline and just rally. I wouldn't recommend that against a pusher, but if he's hitting strong shots, that's okay.

    2) Stand right on the baseline and take the ball on the rise.

    3) Slice the ball back to him, hack him to death, don't give him any pace so he has to generate his own. This is the sabotage method.

    4) Get inside the baseline and take one out of the air; attack the net. You've gotta have a strong mid-court volley but it can be very effective.
     
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