dear roger federer fans :: pray rafa nadal lose 2021 RG , rafa nadal might end carrer 20 slam

skypadq

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yeah , like some user said it could be 2021 RG will be novak djokovic 's second RG
it really could be
i am really worried
there 's nothing can stop novak djokovic to most male slam holder
novak djokovic will surpass nadal and federer 's slam record

novak djokovic will win every slam
he is so good at major
it 's crazy that novak djokovic is so good at major

but rafa nadal is diffrent
he is slow , he is physically tired
if rafa nadal somehow lost 2021 RG , rafa nadal might end carrer 20 slam

novak djokovic probably win more 7 ~ 9 slam
novak djokovic is so good
i am really serious guys
i really wish danil medvedev had beaten rafa in 2019 USO final
if med had that , rafa is 19 slam

rafa nadal can 't win AO and probably can 't win wimbledon
2018 WB was his last chance for wimbledon
he can 't win TB
how can win wimbledon ?
look at nadal 's TB record after 2018 seasosn
he is so worse at TB

rafa's another chance is new york , but i don 't think he can beat novak djokovic
 

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Third Serve

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Our Fedr, who art in Basel, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Strong Era come. Thy will be done in Roland Garros, as it is in Wimbledon. Give us this day our daily Federer Moments and forgive us our handwringering, as we forgive them that handwring against us. And lead us not to Djokovic, but deliver us from the nadal. For thine is the Slam record, the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.
 

skypadq

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Our Fedr, who art in Basel, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Strong Era come. Thy will be done in Roland Garros, As it is in Wimbledon. Give us this day our daily Federer Moments. And forgive us our handwringering, As we forgive them that handwring against us. And lead us not to Djokovic, But deliver us from the nadal. For thine is the Slam record, The power, and the glory, For ever and ever. Amen.
novak djokovic will have most slam on active players
he is so good
i really think he have a chance that go on CYGS this year
who can stop novak djokovic at BO5 format ?
 

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
Don't worry, Sky. Djokovic's last 3 slams: W, F, R4 (DQ).

Djokovic's last 5: W, W, F, R4, R4.

Either way, Nadal will be the RG favorite for the next 3 years at least. If he doesn't hit 21 this year, he'll probably do it next year.
 

skypadq

Hall of Fame
Don't worry, Sky. Djokovic's last 3 slams: W, F, R4 (DQ).

Djokovic's last 5: W, W, F, R4, R4.

Either way, Nadal will be the RG favorite for the next 3 years at least. If he doesn't hit 21 this year, he'll probably do it next year.
at the time 2022 RG , rafa nadal is i think 36
why do you think so certin ?
36 ... dude
who knows
maybe 2020 RG was the last time rafa won major

if rafa nadal wins 2021 RG , he can win more
 
at the time 2022 RG , rafa nadal is i think 36
why do you think so certin ?
36 ... dude
who knows
maybe 2020 RG was the last time rafa won major

if rafa nadal wins 2021 RG , he can win more
Rafa didn’t drop a set last RG Dude. I think the question should be will nadal drop a set this year not if he loses there?
 

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
at the time 2022 RG , rafa nadal is i think 36
why do you think so certin ?
36 ... dude
who knows
maybe 2020 RG was the last time rafa won major

if rafa nadal wins 2021 RG , he can win more
I'm pretty certain because
1. Nadal has over 4x as many RGs as every other active player combined.
2. Nadal won 2020 RG without losing a set.
3. Nadal is on his 2nd best RG streak ever. Would be strange if he suddenly stopped winning any of them. It would likely take 1 or 2 clay ATGs to suddenly rise to beat him (a la Federer USO).
 

skypadq

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I'm pretty certain because
1. Nadal has over 4x as many RGs as every other active player combined.
2. Nadal won 2020 RG without losing a set.
3. Nadal is on his 2nd best RG streak ever. Would be strange if he suddenly stopped winning any of them. It would likely take 1 or 2 clay ATGs to suddenly rise to beat him (a la Federer USO).
thiem or rublev or maybe tsitsipas
i think these only three stood a chance
and night match happen in RG 2021
 

skypadq

Hall of Fame
Nadal had his most dominant run in RG 2008, and we know what happened the following year. And Nadal was 12 years younger back then.
hey .. stroongrule
i really think if rafa somehow loses 2021 RG , might end 20 slams
he can 't win agianst tie break agianst top 20 guys and i don 't think he can beat novak djokovic in us open
 
Nadal had his most dominant run in RG 2008, and we know what happened the following year. And Nadal was 12 years younger back then.
Still don’t see it happening especially this year. This has been said many years. Lets see if these players can actually do it at RG. We seen last year that Diego easily beat Rafa in Rome only to get crushed at RG. I’m not saying it can’t happen as in sport anything can happen but it remains to be seen.
 

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
thiem or rublev or maybe tsitsipas
i think these only three stood a chance
and night match happen in RG 2021
Yeah, we could expect them to take some sets. But consider this.

Thiem lost to Nadal in 2018 only winning 9 games. The next year he got 12 games (1 set). The year after he lost in the QF, then Schwartzman got destroyed the next round. Rublev has done absolutely nothing on clay (or pretty much any other surface) before now. Tsitsipas might be tough, but no more tough than any other in-form opponent.

Rafa is king of clay.
 
Our Fedr, who art in Basel, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Strong Era come. Thy will be done in Roland Garros, as it is in Wimbledon. Give us this day our daily Federer Moments and forgive us our handwringering, as we forgive them that handwring against us. And lead us not to Djokovic, but deliver us from the nadal. For thine is the Slam record, the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.
ROTFLMAO! An award is due you for this one, @Third Serve! That was good!!
 

USO

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yeah , like some user said it could be 2021 RG will be novak djokovic 's second RG
it really could be
i am really worried
there 's nothing can stop novak djokovic to most male slam holder
novak djokovic will surpass nadal and federer 's slam record

novak djokovic will win every slam
he is so good at major
it 's crazy that novak djokovic is so good at major

but rafa nadal is diffrent
he is slow , he is physically tired
if rafa nadal somehow lost 2021 RG , rafa nadal might end carrer 20 slam

novak djokovic probably win more 7 ~ 9 slam
novak djokovic is so good
i am really serious guys
i really wish danil medvedev had beaten rafa in 2019 USO final
if med had that , rafa is 19 slam

rafa nadal can 't win AO and probably can 't win wimbledon
2018 WB was his last chance for wimbledon
he can 't win TB
how can win wimbledon ?
look at nadal 's TB record after 2018 seasosn
he is so worse at TB

rafa's another chance is new york , but i don 't think he can beat novak djokovic

Djokovic won his last slam at this year's 2021 AO. :giggle:

A while back I said that he would finish with either 17 or a maximum of 18, and my prophecy is coming true. :giggle:

Not sure about Nadal, but whatever happens Fedal will always be part of Club 20. :giggle:
 
Djokovic won his last slam at this year's 2021 AO. :giggle:

A while back I said that he would finish with either 17 or a maximum of 18, and my prophecy is coming true. :giggle:

Not sure about Nadal, but whatever happens Fedal will always be part of Club 20. :giggle:
Bookmarked :giggle:
 

RaulRamirez

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yeah , like some user said it could be 2021 RG will be novak djokovic 's second RG
it really could be
i am really worried
there 's nothing can stop novak djokovic to most male slam holder
novak djokovic will surpass nadal and federer 's slam record

novak djokovic will win every slam
he is so good at major
it 's crazy that novak djokovic is so good at major

but rafa nadal is diffrent
he is slow , he is physically tired
if rafa nadal somehow lost 2021 RG , rafa nadal might end carrer 20 slam

novak djokovic probably win more 7 ~ 9 slam
novak djokovic is so good
i am really serious guys
i really wish danil medvedev had beaten rafa in 2019 USO final
if med had that , rafa is 19 slam

rafa nadal can 't win AO and probably can 't win wimbledon
2018 WB was his last chance for wimbledon
he can 't win TB
how can win wimbledon ?
look at nadal 's TB record after 2018 seasosn
he is so worse at TB

rafa's another chance is new york , but i don 't think he can beat novak djokovic
I'm trying to process all the advanced mathematic concepts.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Don't worry, Sky. Djokovic's last 3 slams: W, F, R4 (DQ).

Djokovic's last 5: W, W, F, R4, R4.

Either way, Nadal will be the RG favorite for the next 3 years at least. If he doesn't hit 21 this year, he'll probably do it next year.

If he is beaten this year by someone in a convincing way (like say Rublev) or by Djokovic then rest assured that Rafa will be finished.
 
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Deleted member 771911

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If Rafa gets to 21, men's tennis has an undisputed GOAT.
 

Sunny014

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If Rafa gets to 21, men's tennis has an undisputed GOAT.

No, even if he gets to 25 he won't be the GOAT.

Slams is not the only thing around, there are so many things that matter.

Rafa has nothing except Slams, he is lagging behind in the GOAT Race to even Djokovic, forget Federer
 
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Deleted member 771911

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No, even if he gets to 25 he won't be the GOAT.

Slams is not the only thing around, there are so many things that matter.

Rafa has nothing except Slams, he is lagging behind in the GOAT Race to even Djokovic, forget Federer

Not in the eyes of the media and general public perception. Slam numbers equals GOAT is much more digestable headline than Nadal not really GOAT because doesn't have as many weeks at No.1, has too many slams at one tournament, etc.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
yeah , like some user said it could be 2021 RG will be novak djokovic 's second RG
it really could be
i am really worried
there 's nothing can stop novak djokovic to most male slam holder
novak djokovic will surpass nadal and federer 's slam record

novak djokovic will win every slam
he is so good at major
it 's crazy that novak djokovic is so good at major

but rafa nadal is diffrent
he is slow , he is physically tired
if rafa nadal somehow lost 2021 RG , rafa nadal might end carrer 20 slam

novak djokovic probably win more 7 ~ 9 slam
novak djokovic is so good
i am really serious guys
i really wish danil medvedev had beaten rafa in 2019 USO final
if med had that , rafa is 19 slam

rafa nadal can 't win AO and probably can 't win wimbledon
2018 WB was his last chance for wimbledon
he can 't win TB
how can win wimbledon ?
look at nadal 's TB record after 2018 seasosn
he is so worse at TB

rafa's another chance is new york , but i don 't think he can beat novak djokovic

not happening........thiem and co are enough to take care of aging ultron........
 

Sunny014

Legend
Not in the eyes of the media and general public perception. Slam numbers equals GOAT is much more digestable headline than Nadal not really GOAT because doesn't have as many weeks at No.1, has too many slams at one tournament, etc.

General public considers Federer the GOAT since time immemorial, 1 or 2 slams here nd there lead for Rafa won't change the perception.

Federer remains the most popular guy and the alpha of Tennis, it won't change.
 
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Deleted member 770948

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GOAT is the nonexistent 'title' you cling to when you lose the ultimate prize.
But even after Federer passed Sampras' slam record, the media still said Laver may be GOAT.
So Federer was never the confirmed GOAT.
Tennis has never had a GOAT, so the slam record is the holy grail.
Anyway.....20 is old news.
25 is the magic number.
Nadal said, "I would love to finish my career with 25 [GS singles titles], if it's possible....Let's see. I hope to keep produce myself opportunities in the next couple of years."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/tennis/53342422
 
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General public considers Federer the GOAT since time immemorial, 1 or 2 slams here nd there lead for Rafa won't change the perception.

Federer remains the most popular guy and the alpha of Tennis, it won't change.
So 25 > 20 and Federer still stays the GOAT?
Mainstream media are questioning him being GOAT at 20-20.
 

Sunny014

Legend
So 25 > 20 and Federer still stays the GOAT?
Mainstream media are questioning him being GOAT at 20-20.

25 > 20 is not the end of things.

Federer has won 8 Wimbledons, thats the most prestigious trophy, that alone is equivalent to winnning 20 french opens.

Everything cannot be equated in numbers only, prestige and legacy also matters.

Federer will be remembered as the Athlete who dominated sports in general for 20 freakin years, all that doesn't vanish in 1 day

He is BY FAR the most popular and even in his old years he used to have 2-3 times the number of endorsements that others had ,.....

All this is because of what the public thinks, it won't go away by someone reaching 25 slams now...... not that easy

If Novak reaches 25 then I am not sure what will happen, but Rafa reaching 25 won't make a big difference, people remember that he is nothing outside Clay at a GOAT level... just 1-2 slams here nd there won't change the memories of Federer and Novak winning multiple titles every years back to back for a long time.....
 

Sunny014

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Honestly Nadal is not the person who can be marketed, he is too shy and useless like Sampras.

Novak is a colorful guy and he can be marketed, I think Media should promote his weeks at 1, slams, WTFs and such things as the GOAT Race vs Federer.

It is more logical and right as well...
 
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25 > 20 is not the end of things.

Federer has won 8 Wimbledons, thats the most prestigious trophy, that alone is equivalent to winnning 20 french opens.

Everything cannot be equated in numbers only, prestige and legacy also matters.

Federer will be remembered as the Athlete who dominated sports in general for 20 freakin years, all that doesn't vanish in 1 day

He is BY FAR the most popular and even in his old years he used to have 2-3 times the number of endorsements that others had ,.....

All this is because of what the public thinks, it won't go away by someone reaching 25 slams now...... not that easy

If Novak reaches 25 then I am not sure what will happen, but Rafa reaching 25 won't make a big difference, people remember that he is nothing outside Clay at a GOAT level... just 1-2 slams here nd there won't change the memories of Federer and Novak winning multiple titles every years back to back for a long time.....

I stopped reading after your first sentence. Jokes, but I am not answering that one.
Federer dominated from 2003-2008. Not quite twenty years.
Federer is by far the most popular? At the local club where I play the kids want to be Nadal not Federer. Both are very popular.
What the public thinks, the majority, is who the GOAT will be, like it or not.
Rafa making 25 won't make a big difference. Did you follow tennis media after RG?
 

Sunny014

Legend
I stopped reading after your first sentence. Jokes, but I am not answering that one.
Federer dominated from 2003-2008. Not quite twenty years.
Federer is by far the most popular? At the local club where I play the kids want to be Nadal not Federer. Both are very popular.
What the public thinks, the majority, is who the GOAT will be, like it or not.
Rafa making 25 won't make a big difference. Did you follow tennis media after RG?

In terms of popularity he dominated from 2003 till 2021, makes the most money, so in the eyes of the public he is still 1, thats why in his old age he makes more money and can be marketed more than Djokovic the reigning champion of the last decade.

I did follow the media after RG but popularity only showes in number (money), so if Rafa is the GOAT he will get the most endorsements and will become the biggest brand.

Till that happens you cannot say he is the GOAT even if he is on 25, perception of the public matters.

GOAT is not some parameter mentioned beforehand that ok who holds most slams is GOAT, it is all about money, GOAT is the biggest brand and automatically that will show in number of endorsements when/if it happens.
 
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In terms of popularity he dominated from 2003 till 2021, makes the most money, so in the eyes of the public he is still 1, thats why in his old age he makes more money and can be marketed more than Djokovic the reigning champion of the last decade.

I did follow the media after RG but popularity only showes in number (money), so if Rafa is the GOAT he will get the most endorsements and will become the biggest brand.

Till that happens you cannot say he is the GOAT even if he is on 25, perception of the public matters.

GOAT is not some parameter mentioned beforehand that ok who holds most slams is GOAT, it is all about money, GOAT is the biggest brand and automatically that will show in number of endorsements when/if it happens.

Federer was the most popular player? You don't know for a fact Nadal is not as popular or more so.
So now money making means GOAT? But not numbers? Isn't money numbers?
I can say he is GOAT whenever I want, thanks. Are you also doing that about Federer?
When was money the GOAT parameter? I think slam number is a more established parameter than prize money.
 

Sunny014

Legend
GOAT Race is a popularity contest guys, there is no parameter written in stone by ATP that whoever has most slams will be GOAT, so end of the day to dethrone Federer as GOAT you have to become a bigger brand than Federer the Brand.

Good luck doing that.

cc @TMF
 

DIMI_D

Hall of Fame
yeah , like some user said it could be 2021 RG will be novak djokovic 's second RG
it really could be
i am really worried
there 's nothing can stop novak djokovic to most male slam holder
novak djokovic will surpass nadal and federer 's slam record

novak djokovic will win every slam
he is so good at major
it 's crazy that novak djokovic is so good at major

but rafa nadal is diffrent
he is slow , he is physically tired
if rafa nadal somehow lost 2021 RG , rafa nadal might end carrer 20 slam

novak djokovic probably win more 7 ~ 9 slam
novak djokovic is so good
i am really serious guys
i really wish danil medvedev had beaten rafa in 2019 USO final
if med had that , rafa is 19 slam

rafa nadal can 't win AO and probably can 't win wimbledon
2018 WB was his last chance for wimbledon
he can 't win TB
how can win wimbledon ?
look at nadal 's TB record after 2018 seasosn
he is so worse at TB

rafa's another chance is new york , but i don 't think he can beat novak djokovic
SkyPad dear GOAT you worry to much!
 
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