Definitive list for Federer records that will stand the test of time

[mike danny]

I might do one for Djokovic and Nadal too, but for now let's deal with Fed.

As we all know, Fed's slam record, total weeks at no.1 record and WTF record are his biggest records. However, Fed might be surpassed or at least equalled at all of these 3 by Nadal and Djokovic eventually. His slam record could be surpassed or equalled by both, his total weeks at no.1 record by Nole and his WTF record also by Nole.

So these records are as done and dusted as they could be. But there are records that will stand the test of time as far as Fed is concerned and here are my choices:

1. Most consecutive weeks at no.1

2. Winning 3 slams in a season 3 times

3. 5 consecutive titles at 2 different slams

4. 40 consecutive match wins at 2 different slams. To put it in perspective, even Nadal at RG has not won 40 consecutive matches. He was one match away from doing it in 2015, but lost to Novak in the QF.

5. Winning 24 consecutive finals. The 2nd best performance is 12 consecutive wins by McEnroe, I believe.

6. 18/19 consecutive slam finals reached. This includes a streak of 10 followed by a stteak of 8, both all time records shared by Fed.

7. 3 years reaching all 4 slam finals

8. Most Wimb titles. Unless Djokovic goes on a winning spree at 34 and wins 3-4 additional titles (unlikely), this will stand the test of time.

9. Reaching 7 consecutive finals at a major. Even Nadal at RG doesn't have that.

10. Winning 11 slams in 4 years

11. Winning 14 slams in 6 years.

12. Defending 3/4 slams multiple times.

13. Undefeated against top 10 players in a season after 10+ matches.

14. Undefeated in finals in a season after playing 10+ finals.

15. 65 consecutive wins on grass.

16. 24 straight wins against top 10 opponents

17. 50+ consecutive wins on HC.

18. 23 straight GS semis

Other possible records that might stand the test of time, but are not guaranteed:

1. 5+ titles at 3/4 slams. Nadal is out of contention here definitely, but if Djokovic wins 2 more USO titles, he will equal this record. So there is a strong chance Fed might lose this one.

2. Oldest no.1. Due to a complete lack of elite youngsters, Djokodal both have a chance to be no.1 at 36.5+ years of age.

Are there any other records that I have missed? Don't forget to chime in.

 

[StrongRule]

I wouldn't say "winning 3 slams in a season 3 times" is a safe record. Given the current level of competition Djokovic has a great chance to do it as well. Maybe even this year.

 

[mike danny]

I wouldn't say "winning 3 slams in a season 3 times" is a safe record. Given the current level of competition Djokovic has a great chance to do it as well. Maybe even this year.

I doubt it. First of all, there's no guarantee the slams really will be played this year, despite all the news being spread. And if RG is played, Djokovic is not winning that one, IMO.

Next year he'll be 34 and I highly doubt he'll be able to bring a high and healthy level for 3/4 slams.

 

[clayqueen]

I might do one for Djokovic and Nadal too, but for now let's deal with Fed.

As we all know, Fed's slam record, total weeks at no.1 record and WTF record are his biggest records. However, Fed might be surpassed or at least equalled at all of these 3 by Nadal and Djokovic eventually. His slam record could be surpassed or equalled by both, his total weeks at no.1 record by Nole and his WTF record also by Nole.

So these records are as done and dusted as they could be. But there are records that will stand the test of time as far as Fed is concerned and here are my choices:

1. Most consecutive weeks at no.1

2. Winning 3 slams in a season 3 times

3. 5 consecutive titles at 2 different slams

4. 40 consecutive match wins at 2 different slams. To put it in perspective, even Nadal at RG has not won 40 consecutive matches. He was one match away from doing it in 2015, but lost to Novak in the QF.

5. Winning 24 consecutive finals. The 2nd best performance is 12 consecutive wins by McEnroe, I believe.

6. 18/19 consecutive slam finals reached. This includes a streak of 10 followed by a stteak of 8, both all time records shared by Fed.

7. 3 years reaching all 4 slam finals

8. Most Wimb titles. Unless Djokovic goes on a winning spree at 34 and wins 3-4 additional titles (unlikely), this will stand the test of time.

9. Reaching 7 consecutive finals at a major. Even Nadal at RG doesn't have that.

10. Winning 11 slams in 4 years

11. Winning 14 slams in 6 years.

12. Defending 3/4 slams multiple times.

13. Undefeated against top 10 players in a season after 10+ matches.

14. Undefeated in finals in a season after playing 10+ finals.

15. 65 consecutive wins on grass.

16. 24 straight wins against top 10 opponents

17. 50+ consecutive wins on HC.

18. 23 straight GS semis

Other possible records that might stand the test of time, but are not guaranteed:

1. 5+ titles at 3/4 slams. Nadal is out of contention here definitely, but if Djokovic wins 2 more USO titles, he will equal this record. So there is a strong chance Fed might lose this one.

2. Oldest no.1. Due to a complete lack of elite youngsters, Djokodal both have a chance to be no.1 at 36.5+ years of age.

Are there any other records that I have missed? Don't forget to chime in.

Oh dear!

 

[clayqueen]

When you start seeing making semis as a noteworthy record you are really scraping the barrel.

 

[Rosstour]

From 2003-2009 Fed won 15 of the 28 Slams held. No one is touching a 50%+ conversion rate over that amount of time.

Nadal did it for a three year period and Djok did it for two seasons.

 

[mike danny]

When you start seeing making semis as a noteworthy record you are really scraping the barrel.

Yeah, every record not owned by Rafa should be dismissed.

 

[Deleted member 758560]

I wouldn't say "winning 3 slams in a season 3 times" is a safe record. Given the current level of competition Djokovic has a great chance to do it as well. Maybe even this year.

никогда он этого не сделает больше, это железобетон, перестань придумывать призраков и верить в них, подобным же образом была раньше твоя бредовая идея насчет крыши в париже и следовательно теперь это стало вотчиной джокера

 

[mike danny]

When you start seeing making semis as a noteworthy record you are really scraping the barrel.

It's slso winning most of those titles where you reached the semis, but don't let facts get in your way

 

[tudwell]

10. Winning 11 slams in 4 years

11. Winning 14 slams in 6 years.

And 16 slams in a span of less than 7 years (July 2003–February 2010). Unparalleled weak era dominance.

 

[clayqueen]

It's slso winning most of those titles where you reached the semis, but don't let facts get in your way

If you win the titles then you would have had to make the SF so that’s double counting when scratching around for records.

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

Most hated player on TTW especially on GPPD.

 

[clayqueen]

Yeah, every record not owned by Rafa should be dismissed.

I wouldn’t dream of listing anything other than winning titles as records for Nadal,

 

[Third Serve]

If you win the titles then you would have had to make the SF so that’s double counting when scratching around for records.

You don’t really get what the semifinal record is about, do you?

 

[Deleted member 772264]

So these records are as done and dusted as they could be. But there are records that will stand the test of time as far as Fed is concerned and here are my choices:

1. Most consecutive weeks at no.1

2. Winning 3 slams in a season 3 times

Sold!

 

[merlinpinpin]

5. Winning 24 consecutive finals. The 2nd best performance is 12 consecutive wins by McEnroe, I believe.

It's 12, yes. But by Lendl, not McEnroe.

 

[RS]

I wouldn't say "winning 3 slams in a season 3 times" is a safe record. Given the current level of competition Djokovic has a great chance to do it as well. Maybe even this year.

Nadal is still in the field just a reminder fellow Rafa fan and has won 5 slams since 2017.

 

[Pheasant]

Awesome list, @mike danny

There's just one tweak that I'll add:

9. Lendl holds the records for the most consecutive finals at a major with 8 straight USO finals. Fed's 7 is still quite impressive though.

 

[Third Serve]

Nadal is still in the field just a reminder fellow Rafa fan and has won 5 slams since 2017.

As long as Nadal is in decent form, he should be considered the favorite for the French Open. Two Slams is likely for Djokovic, but three is too much. I believe Thiem has a better chance of winning the French Open than Djokovic, though I think that's a bit of a hot take.

 

[Lew II]

most Grand Slam losses to a player:

11 vs Djokovic
10 vs Nadal

 

[Third Serve]

most Grand Slam losses to a player:

11 vs Djokovic
10 vs Nadal

His first match against Djokovic in Slams was in 2007, which skips over his three best years in 2004-2006.

 

[Eren]

most Grand Slam losses to a player:

11 vs Djokovic
10 vs Nadal

Typical idiocy

 

[Red Rick]

From 2003-2009 Fed won 15 of the 28 Slams held. No one is touching a 50%+ conversion rate over that amount of time.

Nadal did it for a three year period and Djok did it for two seasons.

Djoko is 5/7 in the last 7.

 

[Eren]

Djoko is 5/7 in the last 7.

It says, 'over that amount of time'

 

[Lew II]

His first match against Djokovic in Slams was in 2007, which skips over his three best years in 2004-2006.

Slams Federer either won the title or lost to Djokodal in the final/semi:

until 2007 --> 15
since 2008 --> 26

Djokodal prevented Federer from having other ''best years'' after 2007...

 

[TheAssassin]

10 WTF finals and making it out of round robin 16 times, I can't see anyone beating that consistency against the best eight.

 

[Red Rick]

It says, 'over that amount of time'

I'm challenging that Djoko did it for only 2 seasons his longest streak of winning 50% continuously was like Wim 2014- RG 2017, which is 12 Slams.

Actually if he wins the USO that's part of a current 50% streak if my meth is correct

 

[FatHead250]

All pieces of weak era evidence.

Why aren't you shining in that weak era? You would show them mugs, wouldn't you? Or you're not just weak, but pathetically helpless. That's what you are!

 

[PeoplesChamp]

19 grass court titles may never be matched either.

 

[Rosstour]

Djoko is 5/7 in the last 7.

Yes but not quite the same stat.

Go by entire seasons.

So Djok won 4/8 in 2018 and 2019, 5/8 in 2015 and 2016.

The Federer streak I mentioned (15/28) would look even better if you started from Wimbledon 2003 and and stopped at Wimbledon 2009. Then it's 15-of-25 = 60%.

 

[Breakpointerer]

5/8 in 2014 and 2015.

4/8

 

[mike danny]

Awesome list, @mike danny

There's just one tweak that I'll add:

9. Lendl holds the records for the most consecutive finals at a major with 8 straight USO finals. Fed's 7 is still quite impressive though.

Thanks for the correction

 

[Rosstour]

4/8

Sorry, I meant to type 2015/2016. I fixed it, thanks for pointing it out.

 

[Fridge]

Mods can you change title to *definitive list of a weak era* ?

 

[Red Rick]

Slams Federer either won the title or lost to Djokodal in the final/semi:

until 2007 --> 15
since 2008 --> 26

Djokodal prevented Federer from having other ''best years'' after 2007...

Fed years on Tour

until 2007 --> 10?
Since 2008 --> 13

 

[mike danny]

I'm challenging that Djoko did it for only 2 seasons his longest streak of winning 50% continuously was like Wim 2014- RG 2017, which is 12 Slams.

Actually if he wins the USO that's part of a current 50% streak if my meth is correct

I think 2014-2016 is a more suitable period for Djoko. 12 slams, 6 won.

 

[mike danny]

Mods can you change title to *definitive list of a weak era* ?

All 3 have had weak periods. Djokodal wouldn't be close to GOAT without their own weak periods so you might want to avoid this topic especially as a Djoko fan.

 

[clayqueen]

You don’t really get what the semifinal record is about, do you?

No I don’t. Just making the SF means you failed to win the title. That’s not something to be proud of. It’s coming 3rd or 4th.

 

[Red Rick]

All 3 have had weak periods. Djokodal wouldn't be close to GOAT without their own weak periods so you might want to avoid this topic especially as a Djoko fan.

For total counts that's certainly true.

Federer peaking before Nadal/Djoko does skew the streaks in Fed's favor a little bit compared to Djokovic.

 

[Third Serve]

No I don’t. Just making the SF means you failed to win the title. That’s not something to be proud of. It’s coming 3rd or 4th.

No, not at all. The semifinal record is about being consistent more than anything.

 

[Third Serve]

Slams Federer either won the title or lost to Djokodal in the final/semi:

until 2007 --> 15
since 2008 --> 26

Djokodal prevented Federer from having other ''best years'' after 2007...

Even if he didn’t lose to Djokodal all those times, he seasons would still be statistically worse compared to 2004-2007 because he was losing to more different players.

 

[NatF]

Fed years on Tour

until 2007 --> 10?
Since 2008 --> 13

2015-2020 Fed > 1998-2002 Fed, who knew.

 

[Maverick13]

Winning or losing to eventual champion in 23 consecutive slams is pretty ridiculous also.

 

[JaoSousa]

Slams Federer either won the title or lost to Djokodal in the final/semi:

until 2007 --> 15
since 2008 --> 26

Djokodal prevented Federer from having other ''best years'' after 2007...

Time since Federer won his first slam to 2007- 4 years
Time since 2008-12 years.

So, proportionally, Federer should have 45 times from 2008.

Here's another one:
Djokovic did not reach a slam semifinal till the middle of 2007, skipping 3 years of Federer's dominance.

Statistics! Boom.

 

[mike danny]

For total counts that's certainly true.

Federer peaking before Nadal/Djoko does skew the streaks in Fed's favor a little bit compared to Djokovic.

Djokovic himself also peaked way after Federer so it evens out.

 

[Ray Mercer]

Federer should realistically have 23-25 slams right now. He’s lost a lot of slam final heartbreakers that he should have won. I feel like Nadal and Djokovic have had to claw and scratch for everything they have won. They don’t really have any missed opportunities like Federer does. Federer should have won Wimbledon 08, Aussie 09, US Open 09, Wimby 2019 and a few others. When Federer loses it’s usually a heartbreaker 5 setter but Nadal and Djokovic are more likely to get steamrolled.

 

[TMF]

12 Wimbledon finals
56 consecutive hard court match won

 

[TMF]

most Grand Slam losses to a player:

11 vs Djokovic
10 vs Nadal

 

[Third Serve]

I'm challenging that Djoko did it for only 2 seasons his longest streak of winning 50% continuously was like Wim 2014- RG 2017, which is 12 Slams.

Actually if he wins the USO that's part of a current 50% streak if my meth is correct

Hopefully it’s not!

 

[BeatlesFan]

Yeah, every record not owned by Rafa should be dismissed.