Definitive list for Federer records that will stand the test of time

[PerilousPear]

Eh, all will be broken eventsully. Say in 20 years time, a player of big 3 caliber shows up and there's no real competition to stop him.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

The YEC record might not even get beaten anytime soon. So far Novak has had 3 chances of equaling it but he hasn't come close to winning one.

 

[DSH]

I might do one for Djokovic and Nadal too, but for now let's deal with Fed.

As we all know, Fed's slam record, total weeks at no.1 record and WTF record are his biggest records. However, Fed might be surpassed or at least equalled at all of these 3 by Nadal and Djokovic eventually. His slam record could be surpassed or equalled by both, his total weeks at no.1 record by Nole and his WTF record also by Nole.

So these records are as done and dusted as they could be. But there are records that will stand the test of time as far as Fed is concerned and here are my choices:

1. Most consecutive weeks at no.1

2. Winning 3 slams in a season 3 times

3. 5 consecutive titles at 2 different slams

4. 40 consecutive match wins at 2 different slams. To put it in perspective, even Nadal at RG has not won 40 consecutive matches. He was one match away from doing it in 2015, but lost to Novak in the QF.

5. Winning 24 consecutive finals. The 2nd best performance is 12 consecutive wins by McEnroe, I believe.

6. 18/19 consecutive slam finals reached. This includes a streak of 10 followed by a stteak of 8, both all time records shared by Fed.

7. 3 years reaching all 4 slam finals

8. Most Wimb titles. Unless Djokovic goes on a winning spree at 34 and wins 3-4 additional titles (unlikely), this will stand the test of time.

9. Reaching 7 consecutive finals at a major. Even Nadal at RG doesn't have that.

10. Winning 11 slams in 4 years

11. Winning 14 slams in 6 years.

12. Defending 3/4 slams multiple times.

13. Undefeated against top 10 players in a season after 10+ matches.

14. Undefeated in finals in a season after playing 10+ finals.

15. 65 consecutive wins on grass.

16. 24 straight wins against top 10 opponents

17. 50+ consecutive wins on HC.

18. 23 straight GS semis

Other possible records that might stand the test of time, but are not guaranteed:

1. 5+ titles at 3/4 slams. Nadal is out of contention here definitely, but if Djokovic wins 2 more USO titles, he will equal this record. So there is a strong chance Fed might lose this one.

2. Oldest no.1. Due to a complete lack of elite youngsters, Djokodal both have a chance to be no.1 at 36.5+ years of age.

Are there any other records that I have missed? Don't forget to chime in.

In 50 years, a male tennis player will win 9 Wimbledon titles.

7 consecutive finals at Wimbledon is a record, but Lendl holds the record for reaching 8 consecutive finals at the US Open between 1982 and 1989.

Federer is the oldest number. 1 since the creation of the ATP (1973) but Bill Tilden has the record of all time being number 1 with more than 38 years.

Yes, he also holds the record for reaching 36 consecutive quarter-finals in Grand Slams tournaments.

 

[clayqueen]

No, not at all. The semifinal record is about being consistent more than anything.

So who is the SF GOAT?

Federer holds only 2 noteworthy records:- # of weeks at number 1 and # of slams won. That is it. The rest is fluff.

 

[Third Serve]

So who is the SF GOAT?

Federer holds only 2 noteworthy records:- # of weeks at number 1 and # of slams won. That is it. The rest is fluff.

Show me a few of Nadal's records and we'll see if we can apply the same amount of criticism.

 

[Raul_SJ]

most Grand Slam losses to a player:

11 vs Djokovic
10 vs Nadal

Blown double championship points at 2 Slams.

 

[TMF]

Show me a few of Nadal's records and we'll see if we can apply the same amount of criticism.

Typical clayqueen getting all salty.

 

[Jaitock1991]

When you start seeing making semis as a noteworthy record you are really scraping the barrel.

When you're unable to appreciate how utterly SICK that streak is you really have shoved your head way too far up your favourite's ass to expect to be taken seriously(not blaming you though, Rafa has a magnificent ass).

 

[tennis_pro]

2 Slams 5 in a row. Just think about it. Someone would have to win 2 different Slams 6 times in a row to beat it. Just from this feat alone that's 12 Slams. I would be schocked to see it broken in my lifetime.

It would litetally take a GOAT candidate playing at super consistent level for years, some luck and probably joke competition.

 

[TennisManiac]

Are there any other records that I have missed?

Yep.... 20 Majors and possibly more. How could you not add that one? You must be a Fed hater. There's no other explanation for it.

 

[stringertom]

Undisputed and undefeated king of blue clay!

 

[Winners or Errors]

Undisputed and undefeated king of blue clay!

Maybe once Djokodal retire, we will see blue clay again. It was definitely easier to pick up the ball. Not that hard to roll it a little differently to make the footing work better.

 

[stringertom]

Blown double championship points at 2 Slams.

Get out your shovel because I’m calling BS on this. Please name the other slam final he held CPs and lost, dunderhead.

 

[mike danny]

2 Slams 5 in a row. Just think about. Someone would have to win 2 different Slams 6 times in a row to beat it. Just from this feat alone that's 12 Slams. I would be schocked to see it broken in my lifetime.

It would litetally take a GOAT candidate playing at super consistent level for years, some luck and probably joke competition.

On the other hand, this guy would be the first one to win a major 6 times in a row, an unprecedented feat.

 

[Deleted member 733170]

Quite a comprehensive list OP well done.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Typical clayqueen getting all salty.

Distract C-Queen and it's all good.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

194 consecutive matches without a straight-set loss: RG 2004 (Kuerten) - Cincinnati 2006 (Murray). Obscure but extremely impressive since the only other (male) player to cross 150 is Borg with 165, but his streak includes a walkover (on his part, that is).

 

[stringertom]

fedr won his first seven slam finals, losing just three sets (one each to Roddick Wimby’04, Agassi USO’05, Baghdatis AO’06).

#Nodoubterer

 

[Vanilla Slice]

Amazing records of course ... even if Fed doesn’t end up with most slams I think this era is hands down unbelievable. Arguably (though maybe not soon) the three surface goats all played at the same times:

Clay = nadal
Grass = fed
Hard court = djokovic (only one that’s arguable right now with Federer)

I want them to bring carpet back so we can have a new goat specialist!

 

[Fedinkum]

2 Sets of Twins. I can't see how that record can be broken by any active players.

 

[clayqueen]

Federer should realistically have 23-25 slams right now. He’s lost a lot of slam final heartbreakers that he should have won. I feel like Nadal and Djokovic have had to claw and scratch for everything they have won. They don’t really have any missed opportunities like Federer does. Federer should have won Wimbledon 08, Aussie 09, US Open 09, Wimby 2019 and a few others. When Federer loses it’s usually a heartbreaker 5 setter but Nadal and Djokovic are more likely to get steamrolled.

This is the stuff of cloud cuckoo land.

 

[clayqueen]

12 Wimbledon finals
56 consecutive hard court match won

You don’t coo over 12 Wimbledon finals when someone else has 12 Roland Garros titles.
You don’t coo over 56 consecutive hard court matches won when someone else has a record of 81 consecutive matches won on another surface.

 

[clayqueen]

Show me a few of Nadal's records and we'll see if we can apply the same amount of criticism.

Just go to:

List of career achievements by Rafael Nadal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[clayqueen]

I would be more than happy for all irrelevant things like just making finals, semifinals and quarterfinals to be crossed out of Rafa’s list because he would still be left with a substantial list of records that are unlikely to be broken in the foreseeable future.

 

[Lew II]

His score in Slam finals against non-Big3 is mindblowing.

9 wins in 3 sets
5 wins in 4 sets
2 wins in 5 sets
0 losses in 3 sets
0 losses in 4 sets
1 loss in 5 sets

 

[RS]

23 SFs and 36 QFs in a row at slams.

 

[mike danny]

I would be more than happy for all irrelevant things like just making finals, semifinals and quarterfinals to be crossed out of Rafa’s list because he would still be left with a substantial list of records that are unlikely to be broken in the foreseeable future.

Reaching finals is the second best thing after winning them so I don't see why they should be crossed off the list.

I can understand semis, but not finals.

Especially when it comes to slam finals since it takes a great level to reach them most of the time and separates the great players from.the good ones.

 

[Pheasant]

Federer won 30+ consecutive sets at two different majors. This includes 30 at the AO(the record there) and 34 at Wimbledon(most all time there).

3 slam titles + WTF title, same season. Fed has done this 3 times. The rest of the players combined have done this only once during the Open Era.

Federer has the top 2 longest winning streaks on a surface during the Open Era. On hard courts, he won 56 straight and 36 straight, the two longest.

Federer also holds the longest winnings streaks on 2 surfaces.

 

[vex]

I might do one for Djokovic and Nadal too, but for now let's deal with Fed.

As we all know, Fed's slam record, total weeks at no.1 record and WTF record are his biggest records. However, Fed might be surpassed or at least equalled at all of these 3 by Nadal and Djokovic eventually. His slam record could be surpassed or equalled by both, his total weeks at no.1 record by Nole and his WTF record also by Nole.

So these records are as done and dusted as they could be. But there are records that will stand the test of time as far as Fed is concerned and here are my choices:

1. Most consecutive weeks at no.1

2. Winning 3 slams in a season 3 times

3. 5 consecutive titles at 2 different slams

4. 40 consecutive match wins at 2 different slams. To put it in perspective, even Nadal at RG has not won 40 consecutive matches. He was one match away from doing it in 2015, but lost to Novak in the QF.

5. Winning 24 consecutive finals. The 2nd best performance is 12 consecutive wins by McEnroe, I believe.

6. 18/19 consecutive slam finals reached. This includes a streak of 10 followed by a stteak of 8, both all time records shared by Fed.

7. 3 years reaching all 4 slam finals

8. Most Wimb titles. Unless Djokovic goes on a winning spree at 34 and wins 3-4 additional titles (unlikely), this will stand the test of time.

9. Reaching 7 consecutive finals at a major. Even Nadal at RG doesn't have that.

10. Winning 11 slams in 4 years

11. Winning 14 slams in 6 years.

12. Defending 3/4 slams multiple times.

13. Undefeated against top 10 players in a season after 10+ matches.

14. Undefeated in finals in a season after playing 10+ finals.

15. 65 consecutive wins on grass.

16. 24 straight wins against top 10 opponents

17. 50+ consecutive wins on HC.

18. 23 straight GS semis

Other possible records that might stand the test of time, but are not guaranteed:

1. 5+ titles at 3/4 slams. Nadal is out of contention here definitely, but if Djokovic wins 2 more USO titles, he will equal this record. So there is a strong chance Fed might lose this one.

2. Oldest no.1. Due to a complete lack of elite youngsters, Djokodal both have a chance to be no.1 at 36.5+ years of age.

Are there any other records that I have missed? Don't forget to chime in.

1) 3 seasons with 3 slams is just cool
2) 11 in 4 years and 14 in 6 years... that shiit doesn’t even seem possible. Truly amazing

 

[Third Serve]

Just go to:

List of career achievements by Rafael Nadal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Applying the same criticism...

I see a few of those include doubles achievements (specifically the gold medal).

I found quite a few that also focus on finals and semis. One of those is the 16 straight semifinals won. Of course, this ignores losses before the semifinals, particularly the early round losses at Wimbledon. Pretty arbitrary.

I also notice a TON of stat-padding with combinations. There’s a lot of combining of Slams and Masters and Slams and OSG that definitely inflates the record books. One of them is basically a bootleg Big Title Count.

Gotta love how the only ATP Finals stat on there is a qualification stat, lmao.

I’m not going to read through the whole list. You should have just selected the stats on the same metric that OP did for Federer, because the full stats have quite a lot of holes in them.

 

[BGod]

Lendl made 8 consecutive Finals at USO.

The three most prolific are 23 consecutive slam semis, consecutive weeks at #1 & 24 consecutive finals won.

 

[mike danny]

You don’t coo over 12 Wimbledon finals when someone else has 12 Roland Garros titles.
You don’t coo over 56 consecutive hard court matches won when someone else has a record of 81 consecutive matches won on another surface.

But Federer has the record on 2 surfaces.

 

[clayqueen]

But Federer has the record on 2 surfaces.

So Federer NEEDS to add two surfaces together to not even come close to Nadal's 81 consecutive wins on one surface.

 

[mike danny]

So Federer NEEDS to add two surfaces together to not even come close to Nadal's 81 consecutive wins on one surface.

No, Federer was able to have most consecutive wins on 2 surfaces unlike Nadal who only managed it on one.

 

[clayqueen]

12 Wimbledon finals
56 consecutive hard court match won

Where are the 2 surfaces?

 

[Fiero425]

Lendl made 8 consecutive Finals at USO.

The three most prolific are 23 consecutive slam semis, consecutive weeks at #1 & 24 consecutive finals won.

Each player of Fedalovic "hold" records the others can't touch! I think the order of importance with each goes Fed due to time spent, legit consistent records held by Nole, while the leavings of the clay Master drags along in 3rd place with Rafa! Nole has the best chance to own most of the biggest and best records!

 

[mike danny]

Where are the 2 surfaces?

Grass and HC.

 

[Zebrev]

People think that Novakodal will be playing like this at 38 years of age, but are sadly mistaken, I think we will see a new pecking order when tennis returns, Roger is unique in that his reflexes and hand eye co-ordination have allowed him to compete even with an aging body. Nadal and Novak will have a rude awakening once their aging bodies are exposed and they have none of the Federerific creativity to fall back on, just watch. And new stars ARE on the rise, such as Zverev, Thiem and FAA. They may look like tame threats now, but once they have "put everything together" there is no going back. I suppose people suspected that Sampras and Agassi would rule until 2010 at one stage, because you can never see around the cprner, and while the greats are still winning trophies, the narrative perpetuates. But once Rafa or Nole lose a big match to a youngster, suddenly the tone changes, the feild sniffs blood and quickly a new status quo is set, locking out the old dogs forever. I'm willing to predict that after 2022 the big three will be a non entity on the tour, perhaps just touring the curcuit to soak up the last nostalgic memories. But I also think before then there will be lots of drama, as the titans fall, and I reckon each member win claim a victory in the interim 2020 - 2022.

 

[mike danny]

People think that Novakodal will be playing like this at 38 years of age, but are sadly mistaken, I think we will see a new pecking order when tennis returns, Roger is unique in that his reflexes and hand eye co-ordination have allowed him to compete even with an aging body. Nadal and Novak will have a rude awakening once their aging bodies are exposed and they have none of the Federerific creativity to fall back on, just watch. And new stars ARE on the rise, such as Zverev, Thiem and FAA. They may look like tame threats now, but once they have "put everything together" there is no going back. I suppose people suspected that Sampras and Agassi would rule until 2010 at one stage, because you can never see around the cprner, and while the greats are still winning trophies, the narrative perpetuates. But once Rafa or Nole lose a big match to a youngster, suddenly the tone changes, the feild sniffs blood and quickly a new status quo is set, locking out the old dogs forever. I'm willing to predict that after 2022 the big three will be a non entity on the tour, perhaps just touring the curcuit to soak up the last nostalgic memories. But I also think before then there will be lots of drama, as the titans fall, and I reckon each member win claim a victory in the interim 2020 - 2022.

Thiem a rising star? LOL.

 

[Zebrev]

Thiem a rising star? LOL.

Wawrinka didn't win a slam until almost 30.

He went on to deny Nadal one slam title and Djokovic 3 slam title.


Case closed.

 

[mike danny]

Wawrinka didn't win a slam until almost 30.

He went on to deny Nadal one slam title and Djokovic 3 slam title.


Case closed.

Not everyone is Wawrinka.

And Wawrinka still wasn't a rising star. Just an established guy finally living up to his potential.

We have already seen Thiem's potential.

 

[BauerAlmeida]

I wouldn't say "winning 3 slams in a season 3 times" is a safe record. Given the current level of competition Djokovic has a great chance to do it as well. Maybe even this year.

Good call.

 

[RS]

Good call.

StrongRule is right a lot tbh.

 

[CoolCoolCool]

I expect this thread to mysteriously disappear now.

 

[StrongRule]

I doubt it. First of all, there's no guarantee the slams really will be played this year, despite all the news being spread. And if RG is played, Djokovic is not winning that one, IMO.

Next year he'll be 34 and I highly doubt he'll be able to bring a high and healthy level for 3/4 slams.

You clearly underrated how terrible the asterisk era might become.

 

[jm1980]

StrongRule is right a lot tbh.

@StrongRule is "right" a lot because he keeps predicting Djokovic to win everything. By acting like Djokovic should win everything, then when does win it's less impressive, and when he doesn't win then it's a huge failure.

Conversely, he predicts Nadal will lose everything for the opposite reason. And then when he's wrong (usually, because it's on clay), then Rafa's win seems more impressive

It's a coward's approach: by predicting the opposite of what you want, you always "win". Either your "prediction" was right, or you are wrong but the outcome is what you wanted anyway. Unfortunately for him, he is more often right than he is wrong with his "predictions"

 

[StrongRule]

Good call.

The asterisk era coming was obvious back then, and it ended up being even weaker than I expected. Thiem declined, Medvedev kept disappointing, etc.

 

[Unseeded Player]

The asterisk era coming was obvious back then, and it ended up being even weaker than I expected. Thiem declined, Medvedev kept disappointing, etc.

Didn't had Carlos back then.

 

[TheNachoMan]

@StrongRule is "right" a lot because he keeps predicting Djokovic to win everything. By acting like Djokovic should win everything, then when does win it's less impressive, and when he doesn't win then it's a huge failure.

Conversely, he predicts Nadal will lose everything for the opposite reason. And then when he's wrong (usually, because it's on clay), then Rafa's win seems more impressive

It's a coward's approach: by predicting the opposite of what you want, you always "win". Either your "prediction" was right, or you are wrong but the outcome is what you wanted anyway. Unfortunately for him, he is more often right than he is wrong with his "predictions"

I remember when Nadal was supposed to get crushed by Djokovic and everyone in the draw at RG last year according to Stronk. lol

 

[StrongRule]

I remember when Nadal was supposed to get crushed by Djokovic and everyone in the draw at RG last year according to Stronk. lol

That was according to pretty much everyone here. Even the poll results prove that, and I didn't even vote. So stop bringing this BS about me.

It's kind of ironic that even a pretty much retired Nadal managed to beat Djokovic at DO. This makes the 2023 asterisk look even more pathetic.