Del Potro vs. Federer - Madrid 2009

Federer vs. Del Potro

  • Federer in 2

    Votes: 42 49.4%

  • Federer in 3

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Del Potro in 2

    Votes: 3 3.5%

  • Del Potro in 3

    Votes: 13 15.3%

  • The people in white come to kidnap Federer, Safin and Verdasco. Release Date: TBA

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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Will Fed's semi finals curse will continue? Will Del Potro, after wins over Nadal and Murray, will make Fed his next victim? Will Federer show his arrogance once more and actually dare to show up? All this and more, tommorrow in the SF. Stay tuned.
 
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Maybe xD

we all know what happened at the AO but I think it'll be a very different story here. I'll lean towards Fed but I think DelPo is playing some very solid tennis right now and could prove to be more than troublesome.

The big problem for DelPo is the match up at the AO, even with his recent successes it'll be hard to put that out of his head, and on Rogers side the knowledge that he so convincingly beat someone the last time they played is always going to have him entering a match with confidence.

A lot of it comes down to Roger, if he goes out there and plays well then I don't think JMdP can take him, if he's off his game though then DPs consistancy will prove problematic
 
shadows said:
Maybe xD

we all know what happened at the AO but I think it'll be a very different story here. I'll lean towards Fed but I think DelPo is playing some very solid tennis right now and could prove to be more than troublesome.

The big problem for DelPo is the match up at the AO, even with his recent successes it'll be hard to put that out of his head, and on Rogers side the knowledge that he so convincingly beat someone the last time they played is always going to have him entering a match with confidence.

A lot of it comes down to Roger, if he goes out there and plays well then I don't think JMdP can take him, if he's off his game though then DPs consistancy will prove problematic
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Maybe you're right, but putting confidence and Federer in the same sentence lately sounds a bit weird, don't you think?
 
If this was fair match it would be Del Potro in 2.
However, since he played until 1 am tonight, while Federer finished 8 hours earlier, and on top of that Del Potro has a doubles match scheduled tomorrow BEFORE his singles SF, than Federer has an unfair advantage yet again.
 
noone except nole,rafa and murray can hurt roger..this is how it is in these days..( wawrinka was an exception )..roger will be in the final before he is beaten by nadal once more...
 
gj011 said:
If this was fair match it would be Del Potro in 2.
However, since he played until 1 am tonight, while Federer finished 8 hours earlier, and on top of that Del Potro has a doubles match scheduled tomorrow BEFORE his singles SF, than Federer has an unfair advantage yet again.
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you have got to be kidding me. What makes you think that even if del potro-murray was scheduled before fed-roddick and the results were the same, that del potro would beat fed in 2?? Oh wait, its because of your blind hatred towards fed.
 
I say ExFed in 3. FedEx would win in 2 but as we know it is ExFed who is showing up lately just like against Roddick where he needed 3 sets. Delpotro will be a tougher challenge than Roddick I think.
 
P_Agony said:
I agree. ExFed cannot beat Murray even if Murray hands him the match. At least not in best of 3 matches.
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ExFed can beat Murray on any surface when it matters the most:the slams.
Back to Del Potro:first Rafa in Miami, now Muzza in Madrid,hopefully ExFed tomorrow.j/k.
 
fedtastic said:
I say ExFed in 3. FedEx would win in 2 but as we know it is ExFed who is showing up lately just like against Roddick where he needed 3 sets. Delpotro will be a tougher challenge than Roddick I think.
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well according to the genious gj011 over there, del potro would have dispatched fed easily in 2 sets, if it hadn't been for the schedule. :rolleyes:
 
gj011 said:
If this was fair match it would be Del Potro in 2.
However, since he played until 1 am tonight, while Federer finished 8 hours earlier, and on top of that Del Potro has a doubles match scheduled tomorrow BEFORE his singles SF, than Federer has an unfair advantage yet again.
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You are such an idiot. Why do you always have to troll?
 
Dutch-Guy said:
ExFed can beat Murray on any surface when it matters the most:the slams.
Back to Del Potro:first Rafa in Miami, now Muzza in Madrid,hopefully ExFed tomorrow.j/k.
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DP is finally a threat to the top players. However I think Federer is a horrible matchup for Del Potro.
 
gj011 said:
If this was fair match it would be Del Potro in 2.
However, since he played until 1 am tonight, while Federer finished 8 hours earlier, and on top of that Del Potro has a doubles match scheduled tomorrow BEFORE his singles SF, than Federer has an unfair advantage yet again.
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Del Potro's doubles is not before his singles..
 
Del Potro is making steady improvements. Note that Del Potro beat Nadal 1st time in 5 trials (at Miami Masters, march, 2009)

Del Potro has been quarter-final guy at big tournament. He made a small break thru last March and slowly inching up to the level of top 4 guys.

He should do much better than Australian Open. Potentially a 3 set loss to Federer (because Federer always loses 2nd set against top players :) ) or better maybe ?
 
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gj011 said:
If this was fair match it would be Del Potro in 2.
However, since he played until 1 am tonight, while Federer finished 8 hours earlier, and on top of that Del Potro has a doubles match scheduled tomorrow BEFORE his singles SF, than Federer has an unfair advantage yet again.
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The doubles is TBA meaning that it was not firmly scheduled until after Del Potro's singles match today. He will now play doubles after the singles match.
 
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fedtastic said:
I guess we have established who gjo11 is by now. :)
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sorry it just irks me to no end when people rant about certain players getting an unfair advantage and that's the only reason he or she will win and things about easy draws all the time and conspiracies...its all a bunch of bs driven by hatred.
 
gj011 said:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/1/posting/2009/1536/op.pdf

It actually does not say what time doubles start but they put it in the slot before.

Also there is another doubles match after Del Potro's and if DelPotro's SF match starts at 20:00, his doubles match would not start before 23-24 hours. Makes no sense.

EDIT just realized Djokovic lost his doubles match today :)
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Had DP lost to Murray today, the doubles would have started earlier. Now it won't.
 
icedevil0289 said:
sorry it just irks me to no end when people rant about certain players getting an unfair advantage and that's the only reason he or she will win and things about easy draws all the time and conspiracies...its all a bunch of bs driven by hatred.
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Especially when part of their info is incorrect.
 
icedevil0289 said:
sorry it just irks me to no end when people rant about certain players getting an unfair advantage and that's the only reason he or she will win and things about easy draws all the time and conspiracies...its all a bunch of bs driven by hatred.
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Well, I understand it irks you, but does it really surprise you?
 
while federer completely owns delpo based on their h2h (fed is yet to drop a set), delpo has already posted 2 wins vs. the top 4, while federer is yet to win one. i hope that whoever wins here will eventually topple nadal.
 
icedevil0289 said:
sorry it just irks me to no end when people rant about certain players getting an unfair advantage and that's the only reason he or she will win and things about easy draws all the time and conspiracies...its all a bunch of bs driven by hatred.
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Actually it's NOT all BS. Sometimes players DO get a big advantage due to poor scheduling. It just seems to always work in Federer's favor, for whatever reason. This goes back years and years. Some people don't want it pointed out though when it occurs.

Murray and Del Potro DID get the shaft by having to start so freakin late.
 
woodrow1029 said:
Had DP lost to Murray today, the doubles would have started earlier. Now it won't.
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Ok I hope you are right. We will see tomorrow.
Anyway, doubles or not, it is still not fair that DelPotro finished his SF at 1 am while Federer finished his 8-9 hours earlier.
 
TennisandMusic said:
Actually it's NOT all BS. Sometimes players DO get a big advantage due to poor scheduling. It just seems to always work in Federer's favor, for whatever reason. This goes back years and years. Some people don't want it pointed out though when it occurs.

Murray and Del Potro DID get the shaft by having to start so freakin late.
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okay I might have overreacted, but he tends to usually talk about fed and getting an unfair advantage. Its a bit annoying. I just feel like if fed were to win it would be because he played better that day and none of this scheduling crap. Same thing with del potro. If he were to win tomorrow it would be because he he played better, thats it. That's just how I feel.
 
luckyboy1300 said:
while federer completely owns delpo based on their h2h (fed is yet to drop a set), delpo has already posted 2 wins vs. the top 4, while federer is yet to win one. i hope that whoever wins here will eventually topple nadal.
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Yeah. Nadal used to completely own (4-0) Del Potro until March 2009 but he finally squeezed a win over Nadal.

Federer seems to completely own (4-0) Delp Potro. But I think this 20 year old was overwelmed by the occasion of playing Federer 1st time at slams back in January.

You know, a 20 year old player, sometimes makes a quantum leap in just 4 months. We'll see. Del Potro should do much much better than Australian Open 2009....
 
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gj011 said:
Ok I hope you are right. We will see tomorrow.
Anyway, doubles or not, it is still not fair that DelPotro finished his SF at 1 am while Federer finished his 8-9 hours earlier.
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It's in the rulebook that singles shall be played before doubles..
 
shadows said:
Maybe xD

we all know what happened at the AO but I think it'll be a very different story here. I'll lean towards Fed but I think DelPo is playing some very solid tennis right now and could prove to be more than troublesome.

The big problem for DelPo is the match up at the AO, even with his recent successes it'll be hard to put that out of his head, and on Rogers side the knowledge that he so convincingly beat someone the last time they played is always going to have him entering a match with confidence.

A lot of it comes down to Roger, if he goes out there and plays well then I don't think JMdP can take him, if he's off his game though then DPs consistancy will prove problematic
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That video pictures the epitome of offensive tennis, tennis as an art - pity it wasn't crowned with a title :(
 
despite my overreaction, sorry about that btw, I actually could see DP taking this. He played really well today and fed was okay. I hope I'm wrong though.
 
icedevil0289 said:
okay I might have overreacted, but he tends to usually talk about fed and getting an unfair advantage. Its a bit annoying. I just feel like if fed were to win it would be because he played better that day and none of this scheduling crap. Same thing with del potro. If he were to win tomorrow it would be because he he played better, thats it. That's just how I feel.
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I think you need to call Federer and get this weekend's lottery numbers. The guy is just on fire with luck. The guy must literally sh*t thousands of rabbit's feet! Also, I think the reason Federer got in Del Potro's *** like a colonic at the AO was because of the scheduling that was bad for DP but favourable for the darn lucky Federer.
 
edberg505 said:
I think you need to call Federer and get this weekend's lottery numbers. The guy is just on fire with luck. The guy must literally sh*t thousands of rabbit's feet! Also, I think the reason Federer got in Del Potro's *** like a colonic at the AO was because of the scheduling that was bad for DP but favourable for the darn lucky Federer.
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HAHAHA. You never fail to make me laugh.
 
edberg505 said:
LOL, I aim to please. These guys really make it too easy though. But don't you wish you had a minuscule of the luck this guy has, it's just unbelievable. LOL!!!
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I know. With all this luck that fed has, I would have dropped out of college. Who needs to go to school and work when you have the kind of luck fed has, or even a little bit of it?
 
gj011 said:
You got it wrong. It is not luck, it is favorable treatment by the organizers.
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they're all part of the federer worshipping tribe, right? One would think, that since this is nadal's home tournament, the organizers would try to make it favorable for him. Oh well. Thanks for the laugh gj011.
 
fastdunn said:
Yeah. Nadal used to completely own (4-0) Del Potro until March 2009 but he finally squeezed a win over Nadal.

Federer seems to completely own (4-0) Delp Potro. But I think this 20 year old was overwelmed by the occasion of playing Federer 1st time at slams back in January.

You know, a 20 year old player, sometimes makes a quantum leap in just 4 months. We'll see. Del Potro should do much much better than Australian Open 2009....
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just fyi, they already met at wimbledon in 2007 where delpo showed bigger fight than in the aussie 2009 (still he got routed in straight sets).
 
You know what's funny? You guys can only mock and deride instead of stating WHY Federer has all these "fortunate events" happen to him, OR try and explain why he is not fortunate? In how many majors has he had timely rain delays? How many times does he get the early match while his opponent for the next day gets extremely late matches? How many walkovers in majors (that he's won) has he had? Etc. etc.

The thing is it happens a LOT for whatever reason. I would suggest a few of you man up and either admit it happens, or explain why all of these things should be considered par for the course. While you're at it drop the whole "oh this is so hilarious!" facade. It's tired, and it's a lousy attempt to run from what we are talking about. So as far as I am concerned the onus is on the deniers to defend their position. The facts are strongly stacked against you.
 
icedevil0289 said:
they're all part of the federer worshipping tribe, right? One would think, that since this is nadal's home tournament, the organizers would try to make it favorable for him. Oh well. Thanks for the laugh gj011.
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Can you then PLEASE explain to me why on EARTH the players on the same side of the draw got both the very earliest match AND the very latest match? Does that make any sense whatsoever?
 
TennisandMusic said:
You know what's funny? You guys can only mock and deride instead of stating WHY Federer has all these "fortunate events" happen to him, OR try and explain why he is not fortunate? In how many majors has he had timely rain delays? How many times does he get the early match while his opponent for the next day gets extremely late matches? How many walkovers in majors (that he's won) has he had? Etc. etc.

The thing is it happens a LOT for whatever reason. I would suggest a few of you man up and either admit it happens, or explain why all of these things should be considered par for the course. While you're at it drop the whole "oh this is so hilarious!" facade. It's tired, and it's a lousy attempt to run from what we are talking about. So as far as I am concerned the onus is on the deniers to defend their position. The facts are strongly stacked against you.
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I will take your words into consideration oh wise one. Btw, fine to say that perhaps federer got an advantage due to scheduling and I'll admit it has happened in the past, but when someone talks about it as if its a conspiracy, then I consider that laughable and I don't give a damn what you say. I will still stand by what I say, those who use the schedule as the reason for a player's win or a loss are just taking away credit from the player who did win. Sorry my laughing offended you.
 
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