Del-Potro vs Murray: who has had the better career?
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AnotherTennisProdigy
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Murray. The only thing that made me hesitant before was his lack of slams. My hesitation is over.
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NadalAgassi
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Murray's career >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Del Potro's career now that Murray also has a slam. Every other aspect of Del Potro's career isnt in the same league.
Gifted. Are you just trying to smear Murray no matter what he does?
Why yes, you are.
forzamilan90
Legend
clearly Murray by far. Del Potro has yet to do something special besides his one time win
mellowyellow
Legend
Don't forget that Murray did this after Nadal and Fed are in decline mode. Not many want to admit that but their levels in playing the opposition suggest that, even though performances have been steady t most tourneys.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
This is NOT a fair comparason. Delpo got injured and that really threw his career off. so we can't make this comparason
syc23
Professional
I'm gonna go with the option that you'll continually sprout bull5h1__te on these boards.
Fear not, Andy Murray has just won a major.
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NadalAgassi
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In fairness to DP, Del Potro's U.S Open win I still find more impressive. He beat the games two giants, while Murray won in a nervy display vs a fatigued and out of sorts Djokovic, showing some guts at the end to overcome his own choking and Murray-like slam final meltdown. Still a slam is a slam, and Murray's career outside of their each winning a slam dumps over Del Potro's so much it isnt even funny.
AnotherTennisProdigy
Professional
Which slam was more impressive? Delpo of course, he's one of only two people (check if i'm wrong) to beat both fed and nadal in the same slam tournament. Doesn't change how it looks on his resume though.
No I think people will always remember that Del Potro beat both Federer and Nadal to win that slam. Obviously, Murray has had the better career, but that 2009 U.S. Open was something I don't think we'll ever see from Murray.
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monfed
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I believe DelPo 09 had the most destructive/powerful FH in tennis history. Careerwise Murray obviously but DelPo's USO 09 beats Murray's USO imo. And it's unfair to judge Delpo cause he had his injury while Murray's been a mug for what felt like forever. Too bad he broke out of that image. :lol:
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NadalAgassi
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Del Potro in his career year couldnt even win a Masters, or beat Davydenko to win the WTF (or Murray in the RR). He ended the year at #5 and did not beat Murray or Djokovic on a hard court. He was not as amazing as people potray him as. Even that U.S Open final vs Federer he would have lost in straight sets if Federer didnt choke the 2nd set, despite that Roger was serving poorly that day.
90's Clay
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Well.. in Delpo's defense, his peak was cut short due to an injury which sidelined him for the better part of a year.. I would have to just ASSUME he would have had more success (similar to Murray perhaps or less so) had his peak not been cut short. I think thats what made Nadal's return back in 2010 so amazing.. he picked up where he left off in 2009 peaking. Many can't do that.
Still.. Delpo's 2009 USO impresses me way the hell more then Murray's does. Fed in 2009 was a bigger obstacle then this Djokovic in the finals. Nadal in the semis is still a bigger obstacle IMO then a Berdych who always finds a way to beat himself 90 percent of the time
Still.. Delpo's 2009 USO impresses me way the hell more then Murray's does. Fed in 2009 was a bigger obstacle then this Djokovic in the finals. Nadal in the semis is still a bigger obstacle IMO then a Berdych who always finds a way to beat himself 90 percent of the time
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monfed
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It really should be a tie because well, masters tournaments are good to have but they shouldn't be used as the only differentiator between two players like its been used with DelPo and Murray. That's just shallow. DelPo's highest level at USO> Murray's highest level. DelPO USO 09 version beats any Murray's USO version. So let's sum them up at slam level -
AO - Murray >> Delpo
RG - Delpo >>> Murray
Wimby - Murray > DelPo
USO - DelPo >> Murray
So, see by this criteria DelPo takes it or at least it's a tie.
AO - Murray >> Delpo
RG - Delpo >>> Murray
Wimby - Murray > DelPo
USO - DelPo >> Murray
So, see by this criteria DelPo takes it or at least it's a tie.
90's Clay
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Still would have liked to see that Berdych-Murray match again, WITHOUT the tornado like conditions.. Im still scratching my head as how they were forced to play that.. Its almost as if they wanted Murray to take it all.
I really don't believe if Berdych had a 2 set lead, they would have kept it going.
How the hell can you make those guys play 3-4 hours, yet just call the next match in 4-5 games? Wasn't there tornado warning or something even PRIOR to the Murray-BErdych match ever going on?
Yea that makes me skeptical.. Sorry
I really don't believe if Berdych had a 2 set lead, they would have kept it going.
How the hell can you make those guys play 3-4 hours, yet just call the next match in 4-5 games? Wasn't there tornado warning or something even PRIOR to the Murray-BErdych match ever going on?
Yea that makes me skeptical.. Sorry
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Your stats are flawed. Murray made 2 USO finals. Delpo only made 1.
Therefore, IMO, Murray>>Delpo.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
You make it sound as if the wind only affected Berdych! Murray had to cope with it too. He arguably lost the 1st set because of it due to the cap incident. He just coped better than Berdych did. That's all.
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NadalAgassi
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Your posts are always good for some major LOLs. Yes winning 8 Masters to 0, winning the Olympics, and making 5 slam finals to 1 is also irrelevant when comparing players who each won 1 slam, hilarious.
Based on record Murray is atleast equal to Del Potro at Roland Garros, and easily superior at the U.S Open. 1 U.S Open title, a runner up, another semi vs 1 U.S Open title, no contest. Then what is so amazing about taking Federer to 5 sets in a tournament he nearly lost straight sets to Haas, that makes DP some clay court great all of a sudden, please. Murray playing prime Nadal competitively at the 2011 French despite losing in straights is even far more impressive.
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RF20Lennon
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LOL murray after today obviously!!
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monfed
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Yea ok who cares if he made one more final than Delpo? DelPo'S USO 09 performance crushes Murray's and his highest level is higher than Murray's. So Sorry DelPo > Murray at USO(see, took out an arrow for you too).
RF20Lennon
Legend
He beat Djokovic at the USO and Delpo beat fed in a match fed really shouldve won! So thats a tough call! but then again delpo manhandled rafa 6-2 6-2 6-2 in the semis! so yeah maybe delpo edges it out at the USO but overall Murray by a long shot!!
roysid
Hall of Fame
Are you kidding. It's Murray. This guy had reached 5 slam finals and always finding a top Fed or Djokovic in first 4 of them.
Del Po's US 2009 was a great victory no doubt, but lucky to some extent. An injured and shattered Nadal was no competition in the semis.
And Fed was a little off after being father recently. How many chances he missed winning that second set of the final and closing the match out.
As for stats:
Murray : 1 slam win, 5 finals and 11 semis.
DelPo : 1 slam win, 1 final and 2 semis
Masters 1000:
Murray - 6 or 7 titles
DelPo: 1 Runner Up
Del Po's US 2009 was a great victory no doubt, but lucky to some extent. An injured and shattered Nadal was no competition in the semis.
And Fed was a little off after being father recently. How many chances he missed winning that second set of the final and closing the match out.
As for stats:
Murray : 1 slam win, 5 finals and 11 semis.
DelPo : 1 slam win, 1 final and 2 semis
Masters 1000:
Murray - 6 or 7 titles
DelPo: 1 Runner Up
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monfed
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Do hell with the records if you're just gonna count them like a bunch of cards.
Most people(the sane ones anyway,which excludes you right away) would put DelPo ahead of Murray on clay in a jiffy. DelPo almost beat Ralph at DC in his own friggin backyard, breadsticked him on clay. Let me know when the Muzzette breadsticks Ralph on clay,thanks. Delpo's highest level on clay>> Murray's level on clay. Murray is almost a mug on clay,so its not even close. Simply put, Murray isn't a contender for RG, most of his fans wait for Wimbledon to come around.
In a hypothetical matchup,Delpo beats Murray on clay any day of the week.
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NadalAgassi
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Nadal was also playing way better at the 2008 U.S Open than 2009 so beating Nadal there was just as impressive as crushing a slumping and injured Nadal who went something like 2-12 vs top 10 opponents the second half of 2009. Murray actually outplayed and beat a hot Nadal coming in, in great form.
Hawkeye7
Professional
Because obviously Nadal was at his very best in that tournament... lol Anyway, that doesn't take anything away from him. He totally deserved that win.
Murray had a tough draw here as well and it's not his fault that Federer failed to beat Berdych. He played his final against a great hard court player and won. That's impressive, like it or not. I can't believe I'm actually having this discussion.
Murray has 8 Masters.
Murray had a tough draw here as well and it's not his fault that Federer failed to beat Berdych. He played his final against a great hard court player and won. That's impressive, like it or not. I can't believe I'm actually having this discussion.
Murray has 8 Masters.
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NadalAgassi
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Murray nearly beat Djokovic on clay in 2011, would have without a choke service game. The same Djokovic who was straight setting Nadal on clay that year . Murray also took a set off Nadal on clay that same year, and it was in a best of 3, not a best of 5 like DP, and Murray even had an elbow injury that day. As usual your attempted points are no point. Murray is far from a mug on clay, he is far behind the top 3 on clay, and probably even a bit behind Ferrer on it, but then again so is Del Potro.
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monfed
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WTF? Ralph made the semi without many problems and was crushed like a bug by Delpo's massive hitting,plain and simple. Deal with it. Oh and yea I don't buy his standard injury excuses after a GS loss who he feels entitled to win against lesser known players(which DelPo was at the time.)
No matter how you slice it, DelPo's USO win >> Murray's USO. DelPo is still the only player who's beaten Fedal back to back to win a slam. That alone trumps Murray's USO.(Look I'm not trying to belittle Murray here, but facts are facts.)
Novak last year as well.
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monfed
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Hawkeye7
Professional
I guess that's why Rafa only won two matches against top 10 players for the rest of the season then? lol
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monfed
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Good points bout the Rome match, but Djokovic is a far easier opponent on clay compared to Ralph. And what kindof twisted logic is that,Professor?(Murray almost beat Djokovic who beat Ralph, therefore Murray's better claycourter than Delpo LOLWOT?)
Ok look let's just cut to the chase,Proff - Who has a better chance of beating Ralph on clay at RG, DelPo(with his 09 FH) or Murray?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Del Potro? Not a chance and it is not even a close contest. Even before Murray won this slam, his career results were better. Murray has 20 plus ATP titles, 8 of which are Masters titles, he has reached 5 grand slam finals and now has one slam, and he has an OG. Del Potro has one slam and has 11 ATP titles, none of which are Masters titles and most are Mickey Mouse titles. Del Potro has only reached one slam final. Murray blows Del Potro out of the water.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes we can make this comparison. Getting injured is all part of a career. Del Potro has done nothing special except win that one fluke USO in 2009. He has done nothing of note since then except win a bronze medal. Murray is much better than Del Potro.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Nobody cares about that. They look at the quantity of your titles. They don't put who you beat along the way on the winner boards at the tournaments do they? They just have the year and the name of the player who won. The person with the most titles is the one who has the better career, that is just how it is.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Murray will go on to win more slams and Del Potro will most likely not. People have been touting Del Potro for a hundred years it seems. He is not in the same league as the top four and never will be.
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NadalAgassi
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Also funny how Del Potro's injury of 2010 is used as an excuse for his inability to play among the elite again still now 2 whole years after he came back with no further serious injury problems, but his crushing a Nadal coming off an injury layoff and having an actual stomach injury incurred during the U.S Open is glorified as some superman feat. Meanwhile Murray taking down the recent French, Wimbledon, Olympic (on hards), and Canada Masters (on hards) winner Nadal in a brilliant semifinal is somehow deemed less impressive by comparision. LOL so much hypocricy and flawed logic.
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