Denis Shapovalov to Yonex

My point is that knowing Denis's racquet specs doesn't really matter if Denis isn't actually using a store bought stick. For all we know, the composition of his racquets is completely different to a store bought one. It is reasonable to assume that the composition of all store bought sticks is very similar though.

Just like we did, buy the store bought sticks, hit with them, experiment with them, customise them. If they work, brilliant, if they don't, move on to something else.

As for blowing someone off the court for much of a match ... for sure ... but I reckon Denis probably would have preferred to win.

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i couldn't agree more about the last point... However I don't think his play has suffered by going to yonex as you were making out!
 
Racquets didn't do him any good at the AO.

Tsonga and his Bab. blew Denis off the court in the end.

I'm starting to wonder whether it was that good a move for Denis to move away from Wilson. Don't get me wrong, the SV95 is a beautiful stick but at Pro level??? Some pretty big hitters out there.
On the contrary, Denis started his breakthrough when he switched to the SV95. Remember, he beat Tsonga at the US Open. The 5th set loss at the Australian Open is more of a mental thing. Remember, he’s still only 18!
 
I would hardly call this scoreline:
DS 63665

JS 36177​

As being 'blown off the court'.
Wasn't Denis 5-2 up in the 5th Set? What else can you call it.

Look I'm a great Shapo. fan. He is a breath of fresh air to the Men's Game. He and Sasha could become the next McEnroe/Borg rivalry and it could go on for several years. I love his flair, his skills, and his obvious work ethic and respect for the Sport. I hope to see more young players like him over the next few years to really invigorate the Tour.

As for Yonex being the catalyst for his new found success. Personally, I think he was going to be successful regardless. Chances are that his Yonex racquet isn't that different to his Wilson one spec-wise anyway.

(BTW, I think you mean JT rather than JS? Yes?)
 

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Wasn't Denis 5-2 up in the 5th Set? What else can you call it.
Inexperience, and likely a bit of nerves. You've got a 14 year veteran who has been in a major final and multiple major semi finals vs a player in his sophomore playing a 5th set. More often than not, the veteran will prevail in this situation. Additionally, getting 'blow off the court' usually means (a) straight sets, and (b) no more than 2 games per set. Even a scoreline of 7-5, 6-4, 7-6 isn't getting blown off the court. Its competitive.
As for Yonex being the catalyst for his new found success. Personally, I think he was going to be successful regardless. Chances are that his Yonex racquet isn't that different to his Wilson one spec-wise anyway.
Agreed. I'd bet Stan would still have won the majors he has if he was still playing w/ his Head frame.
(BTW, I think you mean JT rather than JS? Yes?)
Yes, I fixed it. I know its 'Tsonga', I just said it in my head and thought 'S'...
 
what do you mean here ? what do others do differently ? thanks
I think what he means is still manufactured in Japan at headquarters and quality controlled there (not outsourced to China), although some models in the Yonex range are manufactured in Chona, but none of the top-line ones or pro models.
 
I think what he means is still manufactured in Japan at headquarters and quality controlled there (not outsourced to China), although some models in the Yonex range are manufactured in Chona, but none of the top-line ones or pro models.
that's not a problem if you ask me, as long as quality is good....i think even the pro's rackets are made in china for head players...you know apple make its poducts there too....anyway can i have your instagram ?
 
Took these at the US open. Is it a VCORE SV?
Well it depends if the aerofins runs all the way to 12 oclock, which is not the case in the new retail model. Also there are aero ridges on the bridge in the new one too.

Unfortunately, the resolution of your pic is not high enough to see.
 
IMO, moving to Yonex has cost Denis a bit of progress. I think his game was advancing at a much faster rate with the Wilson racquets.

Having used both for quite some time, I can understand why. I just think it is easier to dominate opponents with a Pro Staff than it is with an SV95.

Anyway, I hope his team are looking at the Bigger Picture. Yes, the money is probably pretty good but surely it is more about winning Titles for him now?

Time will tell.
 
IMO, moving to Yonex has cost Denis a bit of progress. I think his game was advancing at a much faster rate with the Wilson racquets.

Having used both for quite some time, I can understand why. I just think it is easier to dominate opponents with a Pro Staff than it is with an SV95.

Anyway, I hope his team are looking at the Bigger Picture. Yes, the money is probably pretty good but surely it is more about winning Titles for him now?

Time will tell.
I agree time will tell. But disagree about the stick. With his mechanics he could create pace/spin with a variety of racquets. His problem is between his ears; youthful exuberance; just tries to overhit too many shots when an 80% deep ball would be fine.
 

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I agree time will tell. But disagree about the stick. With his mechanics he could create pace/spin with a variety of racquets. His problem is between his ears; youthful exuberance; just tries to overhit too many shots when an 80% deep ball would be fine.
Yeah, but the offensive mindset will take him far if he can get it under control. I’m a sucker for how he makes a huge step into the court and then rips a shot - especially that backhand. The pace he gets while hitting well within the lines is impressive.
 
I think he's probably staying with the SV - if in fact he is using an SV which is still open to conjecture.

The new one seems to be a step backwards for advanced players.
 
He's using a base frame pro spec model which he has customised for himself.. Nothing like the off the shelf model!
Yes, I would tend to agree with this.

I'm very familiar with the Retail SV95 and I just cannot see how Denis could produce some of the shots he does with that particular racquet.

He has to be using a customised pro spec model.
 
Yonex have an in-house custom fit division, but Stan doesn't use it. He receives frames and has P1 tune them up for him. The foam in the handle of Stan's racket was compared to a retail model before and the foam is a lot denser and completely different colour...
I'm not sure about Shapo, but I will try to find out more at this year's Rakuten Japan Open. Both Shapo and Stan will be here
 
Yonex have an in-house custom fit division, but Stan doesn't use it. He receives frames and has P1 tune them up for him. The foam in the handle of Stan's racket was compared to a retail model before and the foam is a lot denser and completely different colour...
I'm not sure about Shapo, but I will try to find out more at this year's Rakuten Japan Open. Both Shapo and Stan will be here
If you could find out more about Nishioka too, that'd be awesome
 
All know is that he really did change to the VCore SV98, but not sure if he's using the new VCore 98 2018 frame,...I would assume he has lead under the bumper but I cannot confirm.
There is a Japanese interview where he talks about his racket and you can see it up close enough...maybe you can spot something
 
The Yonex team are quite tight with their players, especially the Japanese players. At tournaments around the world, a lot of Japanese players stick together off court too. Not sure why
Deosn't Spanish players do the same thing off court ?? but you don't see their racket company reps hanging around the players though .......lol. you don't see Eric Babolat hanging with RAFA or jack sock
 
My Yonex custom VCORE SV95 arrived yesterday...I switched the grip and added a little lead in the throat...
It weighs in at 344g with 305mm balance (G4). I strung it with RPM Blast 1.25 @ 61/57.
I made a decision to buy one after demoing the retail model 310g/310mm and availed of Yonex's Custom Fit here in Japan.
The frame actually has HG written on it, just like Stans HG (330g) model of his stick. Judging by the customisation, the base frame they used on mine was an HG frame (330g) and they added the weight somewhere to get the desired specs. Surprisingly, Yonex were reluctant to change the grip to leather, for whatever reason I do not know, but I got the desired specs after I switched out the grip and added a fraction of lead. I hit with it last night and it was sweet.
Here are the photos I have taken:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/152813005@N08/?
Are Yonex custom fit rackets the same as regular retail, but with weight added? Or are they pro stock (different layup, materials) like Head custom made rackets?
 
Are Yonex custom fit rackets the same as regular retail, but with weight added? Or are they pro stock (different layup, materials) like Head custom made rackets?
I think they are different frames, as the foam in the handle is coloured differently and there was no lead added anywhere on the frame.
 
I watched Denis play Gulbis ealier today.

I stand by what I've been saying all along. The old Wilson frame that Denis used to use suits his game much better than his current Yonex one. I think he would be winning a lot more now if he was still using the Wilson frames.

I hope he doesn't regret moving to Yonex. And he really needs to consider moving back to Wilson at some point if he doesn't find consistent success with the Yonex frames. I wonder how long his contract is with Yonex?

Federer will be retiring soon so that might be a big opportunity for Denis to return to the Wilson fold.
 
In Denis’ case it’s not the racquet, it’s his mental game that needs, IMO, a huge retooling. I just can’t stand it when he shows negative body language at the slightest hint of things going wayside. I believe he needs a coach that can be a great mentor at the same time!
 
In Denis’ case it’s not the racquet, it’s his mental game that needs, IMO, a huge retooling. I just can’t stand it when he shows negative body language at the slightest hint of things going wayside. I believe he needs a coach that can be a great mentor at the same time!
Couldn't agree with you more there
 
Didn't be beat Nadal, Raonic, Wawrinka with the yonex racket? Who did he beat with the Wilson? Just other junior players, no?
He moved away from the Wilson racquet before his game really picked up which was the result of physical growth, improving fitness levels and a greater maturity on court.

Let's wait and see. I still think he will return to Wilson at some point. IMO, the 95 sq inch hoop requires too much precision and is no longer suited to the game at the elite level.

Imagine if Federer had moved to the 97 three or four years earlier than he did. He would probably have another three or four Major Titles.

You just can't argue with "Physics"!
 
I just can’t stand it when he shows negative body language at the slightest hint of things going wayside.
IMO, this is a main characteristic of the sport now. Junior players are developed with a "perfectionist" mindset. Shapovalov's behaviour on court is not unique.

Just look at Zverev, Kyrgios, Coric, even Tsitsipas to name a few. They all behave in the same manner when things start to go awry.

The only young player that immediately comes to mind that does not behave in this manner is De Minaur.
 
He moved away from the Wilson racquet before his game really picked up which was the result of physical growth, improving fitness levels and a greater maturity on court.

Let's wait and see. I still think he will return to Wilson at some point. IMO, the 95 sq inch hoop requires too much precision and is no longer suited to the game at the elite level.

Imagine if Federer had moved to the 97 three or four years earlier than he did. He would probably have another three or four Major Titles.

You just can't argue with "Physics"!
That is ********...I am of the opposite opinion. If Fed had have stuck with basics, he'd still be world 1...bigger frame means less stability...
 
That is ********...I am of the opposite opinion. If Fed had have stuck with basics, he'd still be world 1...bigger frame means less stability...
@paulie-japan, I'm not making this stuff up.

Federer has admitted it himself. He was interviewed by Wilander and they discussed the racquet change. Wilander pointed out how the larger hoop size can make the game a little bit easier to play for many players. Federer agreed with Wilander and that is when he said he probably should have changed earlier than he did.

Remember, Federer tinkered with a 97 in training for a while but stuck with the smaller head. He didn't move to the 97 in match play proper until he started losing a lot. When he moved to the 97 he started winning again including an additional three Major titles and got back to World #1.

I agree with you that smaller hoop size means more stability for CLEAN HITTERS! But if you think Federer hits the ball cleanly on a consistent basis, then I would suggest you have not seen Federer playing live too much!

I've seen Federer courtside on several occasions throughout his career, and I have always been amazed by how much he shanks the ball. He seems to shank it a lot less these days than he did several years ago.

And on that note, I don't think Shapovalov is a clean hitter either. Certainly not in the same vein of Kyrgios, Zverev or Rublev for example.
 
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