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Nah, he should, and will be stickin' with the 97 ... Stats don't concern me because, believe it or not, he's still in the process of getting a handle on that stick ...
I agree, he's still getting handle on it, but the clock is ticking. The way he swings out, he just seemed to have a lot more control with the 90, and it would take time away from the opponent. Too many missed approach put aways and volleys and the serve hasn't been better with the 97 overall. The experiment could have gone the other way; leveled the playing field, but to me it's made him more like everyone else. You don't see as many of those amazing jaw dropping shots that evoke exciting commentary. His main weapon wasn't there at Wimbledon…and volleys weren't placed as well…also that slice that cuts and drives low, isn't there as often…it gets too much air most of the time.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Sooooo, you guys think Roger is showing his age now....? It looks like on most part he is still playing well but when these 2 week major comes around, he seem to tire out at then end of the tournament.
 

robok9

Semi-Pro
Honestly, I just think he had a bad couple of matches. This year has been pretty good. People are just freaking out now that he officially hasn't won a slam this year. He says he wants to stick around for Rio in 2016, and Nadal and Djokovic could all of a sudden collapse (ala Federer 2013). Don't give up hope!
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Honestly, I just think he had a bad couple of matches. This year has been pretty good. People are just freaking out now that he officially hasn't won a slam this year. He says he wants to stick around for Rio in 2016, and Nadal and Djokovic could all of a sudden collapse (ala Federer 2013). Don't give up hope!

Nadal and Djoko did "collapse" at this USO. How did it help Fed? He's gonna have plenty more to worry about than just Djokodal. The change of guard is upon us.
 
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Federer302

Guest
I am gonna replay Fed's epic comeback QF on Sunday and pretend it is the final...that should fix it...:cry::cry::cry:
Stayed up till 5am for that one. Ill never forget it. :)

Nadal and Djoko did "collapse" at this USO. How did it help Fed? He's gonna have plenty more to worry about than just Djokodal. The change of guard is upon us.
This thread is for Federer fans not Federer haters. Go away
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Nadal and Djoko did "collapse" at this USO. How did it help Fed? He's gonna have plenty more to worry about than just Djokodal. The change of guard is upon us.
The change of guard is definitely there but what Fed fans know for sure is Fed is playing much much better tennis than what he did in 2013.

If he gets another chance ,which looks all the more likely given the shake up in the tour, he has a slim chance to get the 18th . But even if he doesnt it just doesnt matter.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
Wimbledon was depressing.

US Open not so much....especially knowing that Djokovic went out. Yes a better chance for Fed, but new guys winning lessens the disappointment.
 

sliceroni

Hall of Fame
Sadly as a Fed fan I think he is showing his age when he goes deep in a slam. He just had nothing left in the tank against Cilic, all his shots struck from a stationary position landed short. His forehand has lost so much venom. To me every accomplishment after his peak 2007 was icing on top, so there's lots of icing on his cake :)
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Honestly, I just think he had a bad couple of matches. This year has been pretty good. People are just freaking out now that he officially hasn't won a slam this year. He says he wants to stick around for Rio in 2016, and Nadal and Djokovic could all of a sudden collapse (ala Federer 2013). Don't give up hope!
yes exactly, he had bad couple of matches. Most likely he is Tired and Old, that is why
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
GOOD NEW for Federer fans. NEXT week is DAVIS cup. in SWISS. Federer to play HERO and forget all about this fluke loss in the semis of US open.
and Wawrinka worship of Federer will continue.

but I don't think Roger really cares about Davis cup though................LOL.
He said after the match in press conference, he just has something to do next weekend...............LOL
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/interactive/video/index.html?promo=subnav&category=press
 

robok9

Semi-Pro
Just remember, this time last year Federer looked worn out (much like people are saying now). He was constantly struggling to beat players ranked in the 50's+. After a good rest and rebuilding, he came back in Australia playing great tennis. The only thing that stopped him was an almost invincible Rafa. Basically, up until the French Open, he was making the finals of almost every tournament. Then he had a great run at Halle and Wimbledon. After almost a month off after Wimbledon, he made 2 masters finals and won 1 of them (I don't think he was playing his greatest tennis, but he found a way to win). Now, he just needs a break to get rested and motivated again.
 

Charlemagne

Hall of Fame
As much I agree with you, Cilic played the match of his life and was virtually unplayable yesterday.
I know for a fact that the Federer of pre-2010 would've won in maybe 4 sets against a white hot Cilic. The guy had NEVER beaten Fed in more than 6 yrs? Gimme a break... I don't like this rationalization that certain players were unbeatable. I think what we're noticing now is two-fold. On the one hand, I think Fed has lost the ability/confidence to cool off opponents- especially deep in tourneys. The second thing I notice, is that "lesser" players know that he is more vulnerable, and are less afraid of playing the game of their life. They know that he is very much beatable on a good day.
 

okdude1992

Hall of Fame
I know for a fact that the Federer of pre-2010 would've won in maybe 4 sets against a white hot Cilic. The guy had NEVER beaten Fed in more than 6 yrs? Gimme a break... I don't like this rationalization that certain players were unbeatable. I think what we're noticing now is two-fold. On the one hand, I think Fed has lost the ability/confidence to cool off opponents- especially deep in tourneys. The second thing I notice, is that "lesser" players know that he is more vulnerable, and are less afraid of playing the game of their life. They know that he is very much beatable on a good day.
You hit the nail on the head. The man is 33, and his game isn't what it once was. Players used to walk on court believing that they would lose against Fed, because he had that aura of invincibility. That is long gone now. Djokovic had the same thing in 2011 and Nadal has at various points in his career. Right now is a good time to be a solid top 20 player, or a young guy coming up.
 
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merwy

G.O.A.T.
I know for a fact that the Federer of pre-2010 would've won in maybe 4 sets against a white hot Cilic. The guy had NEVER beaten Fed in more than 6 yrs? Gimme a break... I don't like this rationalization that certain players were unbeatable. I think what we're noticing now is two-fold. On the one hand, I think Fed has lost the ability/confidence to cool off opponents- especially deep in tourneys. The second thing I notice, is that "lesser" players know that he is more vulnerable, and are less afraid of playing the game of their life. They know that he is very much beatable on a good day.
Cilic played out of this world, but what I want to know is: Why can't Roger be the one that's "unbeatable" for once? Why does it always have to be a Cilic, a Berdych or Tsonga or Gulbis that were simply playing the best game of their life? Why can't Federer play "out of this world" and still beat them that way? I mean, the GOAT's best has to be better than freaking Cilic's best, right? He got freaking destroyed, he didn't just lose. He got absolutely smashed. I could've faced Cilic that day and would've looked just as helpless.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Cilic played out of this world, but what I want to know is: Why can't Roger be the one that's "unbeatable" for once? Why does it always have to be a Cilic, a Berdych or Tsonga or Gulbis that were simply playing the best game of their life? Why can't Federer play "out of this world" and still beat them that way? I mean, the GOAT's best has to be better than freaking Cilic's best, right? He got freaking destroyed, he didn't just lose. He got absolutely smashed. I could've faced Cilic that day and would've looked just as helpless.
:lol: Have several seats. The man lost 5 matches in 2006 and 4 were to Nadal. It doesn't get any more unbeatable than that.
 

merwy

G.O.A.T.
:lol: Have several seats. The man lost 5 matches in 2006 and 4 were to Nadal. It doesn't get any more unbeatable than that.
No thanks, I'll stand. Yeah but that was back in the days. Lately, he's just someone who loses as soon as he meets a top 4 player or a lower ranked player on a good day.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
No thanks, I'll stand. Yeah but that was back in the days. Lately, he's just someone who loses as soon as he meets a top 4 player or a lower ranked player on a good day.
Time waits for no man in tennis, Federer had a much better year than last year. Nothing to be upset about imo.
 
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JRAJ1988

Guest
Federer will most likely finish number 2 and win the Davis Cup...and you're depressed?

Compared to 2013, 2014 has been a massive success for the Fed.

I still think he has one last Slam in the tank.
 

Feather

Legend
Time waits for no man in tennis, Federer had a much better year than last year. Nothing to be upset about imo.
Very true MN, you said it. I was dejected when he lost Wimbledon 2014, but instantly I thought he lost in 2nd R last year so all the more reason to be happy. He made so many finals and have very deep runs in three slams. Three SF ain't bad and if he keeps on making SFs like this it's really good.

I am happpy with his 2014. I want to enjoy every moment while "it" lasts without cribbing about what he could have achieved.
 

merwy

G.O.A.T.
It will be the hope that kills us.
True. We're only hurting ourselves with these high expectations. They are also based on nothing. If we would be happy every time he'd reach the quarter finals, there would be no problem. But he always has to win another slam. The guy never catches a break:wink:
 

Fugazi

Professional
Cilic played out of this world, but what I want to know is: Why can't Roger be the one that's "unbeatable" for once? Why does it always have to be a Cilic, a Berdych or Tsonga or Gulbis that were simply playing the best game of their life? Why can't Federer play "out of this world" and still beat them that way? I mean, the GOAT's best has to be better than freaking Cilic's best, right? He got freaking destroyed, he didn't just lose. He got absolutely smashed. I could've faced Cilic that day and would've looked just as helpless.
Federer has been vulnerable against in form big hitters/servers for a few years now, it's no surprise (Tsonga, Berdych, Del Potro).
 

ARKustom93

Professional
Federer will most likely finish number 2 and win the Davis Cup...and you're depressed?

Compared to 2013, 2014 has been a massive success for the Fed.

I still think he has one last Slam in the tank.
Right on ... In my opinion, he's doing remarkably well, considering the fact that at this point he is still really just playing 'practice matches' ...
 

zam88

Professional
I'm just bummed about this.

The exact scenarios Federer needed to win a slam happened this year on his 2 best surfaces.. he only had to beat one major opponent at Wimbledon... and he could have gone the entire USO without facing an elite opponent and he just blew it to Cilic in straights.

If Federer can't win a tournament where the draw is nearly perfect and he gets all the breaks, then there is little hope to believe he can win 7 straight 5 set matches on any surface.

I really thought after Cincy and that beautiful draw that this USO was a full go for Fed... to see him blow it like that... STRAIGHT sets... well... it's been a good run.

I suspect he can win a few more 3 set masters or WTF's... but not a major
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Very true MN, you said it. I was dejected when he lost Wimbledon 2014, but instantly I thought he lost in 2nd R last year so all the more reason to be happy. He made so many finals and have very deep runs in three slams. Three SF ain't bad and if he keeps on making SFs like this it's really good.

I am happpy with his 2014. I want to enjoy every moment while "it" lasts without cribbing about what he could have achieved.
It's good to see him playing well again. I thought he was done after last year tbh. The way he was playing at the AO blew my mind. The fact that he beat Djokovic twice and was in the Wimbledon final this year is a testament both to his greatness, and his love for tennis. That's why I really respect him a ton.
 

chippy17

Semi-Pro
I'm just bummed about this.

The exact scenarios Federer needed to win a slam happened this year on his 2 best surfaces.. he only had to beat one major opponent at Wimbledon... and he could have gone the entire USO without facing an elite opponent and he just blew it to Cilic in straights.

If Federer can't win a tournament where the draw is nearly perfect and he gets all the breaks, then there is little hope to believe he can win 7 straight 5 set matches on any surface.

I really thought after Cincy and that beautiful draw that this USO was a full go for Fed... to see him blow it like that... STRAIGHT sets... well... it's been a good run.

I suspect he can win a few more 3 set masters or WTF's... but not a major
I am a huge Fed fan but he did not lose this match he got blown off the court by a 'on fire' player, no shame in that, and this player did it for 3 rounds in a row
perhaps you could argue he was not playing well but you could also argue he was not allowed to...
 

TheMusicLover

G.O.A.T.
It's good to see him playing well again. I thought he was done after last year tbh. The way he was playing at the AO blew my mind. The fact that he beat Djokovic twice and was in the Wimbledon final this year is a testament both to his greatness, and his love for tennis. That's why I really respect him a ton.
Nice post from a (very) nice Nadal fan. :)
 

zam88

Professional
I am a huge Fed fan but he did not lose this match he got blown off the court by a 'on fire' player, no shame in that, and this player did it for 3 rounds in a row
perhaps you could argue he was not playing well but you could also argue he was not allowed to...

Yes.. in many ways it was similar to getting beat by DelPo... a guy on fire at the time.

But to get beat in straight sets.. by a guy who should've walked on the court nervous when he had never beaten Federer and just got beat by Federer a few weeks prior.. well that's just gross.

I blame that a lot of Federer's ineptitude in the Cilic match from the Monfils match... I'm sure that left him tired.. and there was no reason that shouldn't have been a 3-4 set match for him.
 

ivan_the_terrible

Hall of Fame
I don't know - the lack of depth & power on his shots seem to point to his back and not so much the racquet. He may say he's fine, but that could just mean he's better than last year.

It's been a great run, I suppose it hurts because he was in a position to win some key matches and didn't. In a sense, it's worse than last year.
 

Emiliano55

Professional
If you told me that he was gonna lose a Wimbledon final the way he did (in a 5th set of an epic match) and then lose at the semi finals of the USO with CILIC and Nishikori waiting in the final, then I would probably rather to see him having a 2013-like year.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
Wimbledon was depressing.

US Open not so much....especially knowing that Djokovic went out. Yes a better chance for Fed, but new guys winning lessens the disappointment.
I wouldn't say either were depressing. But he was so tantalizingly close at Wimbledon - one more good set - that Wimbledon was tough. And given the 4th set momentum; I'm glad we can't bet on sports interactively in the US; I would have blown a lot. I was sure Djokovic would implode and Fed would cruise to 18.

I was happy for Cilic - and he played so ridiculously well that it was hard to be upset - not like Fed could have done much (other than serve a better % :) ).
 
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