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I am happy for Kerber to win her first grand slam, and break her long losing streak to Azarenka along the way. However this is a total bummer for Serena. She seemed revived after the long break and IMHO was playing superior tennis at this event to what she played anytime the last 2 years, despite winning 3 slams last year. She seemed poised to get that #22 she missed at the Open, which would be a big hurdle and release some of the pressure she feels moving forward. What is most worrying is it is clear by her body language at times, she is really feeling the pressure of getting over that hurdle, and why it would have made a big difference had she been able to do it today.
 
mattosgrant said:
I am happy for Kerber to win her first grand slam, and break her long losing streak to Azarenka along the way. However this is a total bummer for Serena. She seemed revived after the long break and IMHO was playing superior tennis at this event to what she played anytime the last 2 years, despite winning 3 slams last year. She seemed poised to get that #22 she missed at the Open, which would be a big hurdle and release some of the pressure she feels moving forward. What is most worrying is it is clear by her body language at times, she is really feeling the pressure of getting over that hurdle, and why it would have made a big difference had she been able to do it today.
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Yup. And with the french coming up this doesnt get any easier. Wonder how she is gonna schedule herself this year. Dont know if she will do iw,and Miami. Maybe one clay tuneup before french? It should be interesting.
 
It'll be very interesting to see how Serena fares in the other Grand Slams this year. It won't surprise me if she wins one or even two of them(most likely Wimbledon and USO) but on the other hand I can honestly say it wouldn't be too much of a shock if she wins no more. I think the pressure of equalling/surpassing Graf is starting to affect her and it never gets easier to win major trophies as you get older and other players figure out how to beat you.
 
veroniquem said:
She should also shed some weight but that's just like beating a dead horse, so, never mind.
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She's actually not heavy for a tennis player. She weighs the same as Azarenka and Petkovic. She's just built differently.

I don't think she can defend the French Open. Wimbledon maybe. I have an inkling she'll have an easier time at the US Open.

But, yeah, I'm totally bummed by today's result. Credit to Kerber, but Serena was just awful, especially when compared to how she played during these two weeks. What really annoys me is how everyone seems to root against her. I'm not talking about here on TTW. I could give a **** about the haters here on TTW. I'm talking about the mainstream media and the rest of the tour. They seem to love to see Serena fail. It really saddens me.
 
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Levi_Ackerman said:
She's actually not heavy for a tennis player. She weighs the same as Azarenka and Petkovic. She's just built differently.

I don't think she can defend the French Open. Wimbledon maybe. I have an inkling she'll have an easier time at the US Open.
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To be clear, this is not a shot at her appearance. I have a soft spot for plump people myself. It's about helping her fitness. She's not moving well.
 
Levi_Ackerman said:
She's actually not heavy for a tennis player. She weighs the same as Azarenka and Petkovic. She's just built differently.

I don't think she can defend the French Open. Wimbledon maybe. I have an inkling she'll have an easier time at the US Open.

But, yeah, I'm totally bummed by today's result. Credit to Kerber, but Serena was just awful, especially when compared to how she played during these two weeks. What really annoys me is how everyone seems to root against her. I'm not talking about here on TTW. I could give a **** about the haters here on TTW. I'm talking about the mainstream media and the rest of the tour. They seem to love to see Serena fail. It really saddens me.
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It's not that most people want to see Serena fail, it's that they are tired of one person dominating whether it be the WTA or the ATP. Great win for Kerber and about time a player stepped up and beat Serena. Especially nice that it was a fresh slam winner.
 
Levi_Ackerman said:
Yeah................right. :rolleyes:
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You don't think it's nice that a fresh face won a slam and that somebody finally had the nerve to take it to Serena in a slam final after so long? You think it's good when one person is dominating? Do you like how Djokovic is dominating the ATP, hypocrite?
 
cc0509 said:
You don't think it's nice that a fresh face won a slam and that somebody finally had the nerve to take it to Serena in a slam final after so long? You think it's good when one person is dominating? Do you like how Djokovic is dominating the ATP, hypocrite?
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I think it's good when one person is dominating if that one person happens to be my favourite players. I couldncare less about a fresh face, especially if that fresh face is one that will most likely never win a grand slam ever again. I have no time for one-slam wonders. (What a surprise, right?)

And I absolutely love how Djokovic is dominating the ATP, because he does so playing sublime tennis, and also because it drives Fed fans up the wall - even though I like Federer and I occasionally root for him.
 
Levi_Ackerman said:
I think it's good when one person is dominating if that one person happens to be my favourite players. (What a surprise, right?)

And I absolutely love how Djokovic is dominating the ATP, because he does so playing sublime tennis, and also because it drives Fed fans up the wall - even though I like Federer and I occasionally root for him.
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All good things eventually come to an end in the sports world.
 
cc0509 said:
I respect Serena's achievements but I was glad to see Kerber succeed today.

P.S. I didn't realize you were a thread N-azi and that I'm not allowed to post in this thread. :confused:
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Well, the "sign on the door" reads "Depressed Serena fans check in here". You strike me as being in here simply to wade in the depression of true Serena fans, because that's what posters like you do. You get some kind of sick, sadistic pleasure from the sadness of fans who've just witnessed their favourites lose and are trying to find some solace. And you shouldn't throw the word "N-azi" about so casually, especially considering that this week in Europe we marked holocaust memorial day. Try thinking next time, eh?
 
Levi_Ackerman said:
Well, the "sign on the door" reads "Depressed Serena fans check in here". You strike me as being in here simply to wade in the depression of true Serena fans, because that's what posters like you do. You get some kind of sick, sadistic pleasure from the sadness of fans who've just witnessed their favourites lose and are trying to find some solace. And you shouldn't throw the word "N-azi" about so casually, especially considering that this week in Europe we marked holocaust memorial day. Try thinking next time, eh?
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No law against posting in any thread.

Ok, fair enough. Replace it with another acceptable word. How about thread bully? ;)
 
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My world is shattered.
I don't think i will ever get over this Serena defeat.

Right now, streams of tears burrow my cheeks, neck and chest. I have already asked my relatives to watch over me day and night, in case i might do the unthinkable.

Words aren't enough to describe the feelings assailing my mind at the moment.

:):D:p:rolleyes:
 
To be honest, I'm still stunned that Serena didn't hang on physically and mentally for just a couple of more games to win the 2015 US Open which would have equalled Graf's achievement both in number of Slams and in completing the CYGS. I mean, who the heck was standing in her way: freakin' Vinci and then Pennetta in the final??? She should have been able to eat those 2 for breakfast and still have room for an extra portion or two! What a terrible and pointless waste of a golden opportunity!!! :mad:

She could have entered this year's AO with all that pressure taken off her shoulders and been able to relax into her game and play freely and with no pressure. Who knows: it might have helped her to secure a 23rd title! :cool:

I have a feeling that squandering that golden opportunity in New York last September will haunt her for a long time to come! :(
 
Mainad said:
To be honest, I'm still stunned that Serena didn't hang on physically and mentally for just a couple of more games to win the 2015 US Open which would have equalled Graf's achievement both in number of Slams and in completing the CYGS. I mean, who the heck was standing in her way: freakin' Vinci and then Pennetta in the final??? She should have been able to eat those 2 for breakfast and still have room for an extra portion or two! What a terrible and pointless waste of a golden opportunity!!! :mad:

She could have entered this year's AO with all that pressure taken off her shoulders and been able to relax into her game and play freely and with no pressure. Who knows: it might have helped her to secure a 23rd title! :cool:

I have a feeling that squandering that golden opportunity in New York last September will haunt her for a long time to come! :(
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Call me crazy but maybe winning slams isnt easy.
 
I have to say, one of the criticisms about Serena I've never understood is when people mock her for losing to "MUGS" like Vinci and Kerber, completely forgetting the woman's had to compete against three different generations of players - of course she's going to lose some big matches every now and then! She might be the best in the world but she's not a robot. I think instead of haters taking the mickey out of her for losing to lower tier players, they should be applauding her for her great longevity and still being ranked #1 by some distance at the age of 34. Anyway winning 21 majors out of 26 finals is still an incredible record and if nothing else, Serena has shown time and time again over the years what a resilient champion she is so slam number 22 may happen much sooner than we think. Today's result was disappointing but mark my words, she'll be back! :)
 
insideguy said:
Great players have not been so great at times. She isnt supergirl. No one has been. All the greats have lost to non greats. All of them
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It just seem so sad she couldn't hold it together for 2 more matches at her home Slam when facing a pair of comparative nobodies. The CYGS and matching Graf's record were virtually in the bag and she couldn't muster up the last reserves of energy to secure them knowing she would very likely never get another opportunity?

Ay yay yay...Serena!
 
Mainad said:
It just seem so sad she couldn't hold it together for 2 more matches at her home Slam when facing a pair of comparative nobodies. The CYGS and matching Graf's record were virtually in the bag and she couldn't muster up the last reserves of energy to secure them knowing she would very likely never get another opportunity?

Ay yay yay...Serena!
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Nothing is in the bag. If you have watched serena these past 18 years or whatever its been you would know that. When people think they know how things are suppose to be when people at these high levels of sport compete they dont know what the fart they are talking about. Mike tyson had a little fight with buster douglas he could tell you about. And just to highlight that in 1985 martina navratolva was beating everyone except evert every once in awhile. She lost to a girl named hana madilkova or something in the 85 us open final. Also lost to some helena lady in the 84 aussie open semis to stop a streak of 5 or 6 slams in a row
 
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I agree with @Mainad re the CYGS. She had that CYGS in the bag. It was hers to lose and she lost it. What a golden opportunity! **** the pressure getting to her! She was two matches away! And who stood in her way? Vinci and Pennetta! Muthaf****** Roberta Vinci and Flavia Pennetta! And she couldn't muster up the will to finish the job!(?) That really pisses me off! :mad:
 
Djokovic2011 said:
I have to say, one of the criticisms about Serena I've never understood is when people mock her for losing to "MUGS" like Vinci and Kerber, completely forgetting the woman's had to compete against three different generations of players - of course she's going to lose some big matches every now and then! She might be the best in the world but she's not a robot. I think instead of haters taking the mickey out of her for losing to lower tier players, they should be applauding her for her great longevity and still being ranked #1 by some distance at the age of 34. Anyway winning 21 majors out of 26 finals is still an incredible record and if nothing else, Serena has shown time and time again over the years what a resilient champion she is so slam number 22 may happen much sooner than we think. Today's result was disappointing but mark my words, she'll be back! :)
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There is nothing extra special about Serena longevity though.Age 34 she didnt even played the same number matches Graf played through 30 years.Serena is no Navratillova or Everett as far as longevity concern. As ı mentoined above she didnt even play as many matches as Graf did,who didnt even play until her mid 30s.
 
mistik said:
There is nothing extra special about Serena longevity though.Age 34 she didnt even played the same number matches Graf played through 30 years.Serena is no Navratillova or Everett as far as longevity concern. As ı mentoined above she didnt even play as many matches as Graf did,who didnt even play until her mid 30s.
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You think Graf played tennis for 30 years? Lol. What, she came straight out of her mother, picked up a racquet and headed for the tour?
 
mistik said:
There is nothing extra special about Serena longevity though.Age 34 she didnt even played the same number matches Graf played through 30 years.Serena is no Navratillova or Everett as far as longevity concern. As ı mentoined above she didnt even play as many matches as Graf did,who didnt even play until her mid 30s.
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Fair point about the longevity but my point still stands about Serena having to face three different gens of players. It's pretty safe to say that Graf would've also lost to some younger/lower tier players in major finals had she carried on for another couple of years. And who's to say she would've even got to any finals let alone win them considering her competition would've comprised of peak Hingis, Davenport, Capriati and the Williams sisters?
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Fair point about the longevity but my point still stands about Serena having to face three different gens of players. It's pretty safe to say that Graf would've also lost to some younger/lower tier players in major finals had she carried on for another couple of years. And who's to say she would've even got to any finals let alone win them considering her competition would've comprised of peak Hingis, Davenport, Capriati and the Williams sisters?
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Serena is very important for WTA because there is still no marky name outside of her and Sharapova.When the former greats retired from the game there were already huge stars who already take their positions.
 
veroniquem said:
Serena is starting to be a bit old to win slams but she should stick around just to continue beating up on Pova ;)
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Yep atleast stay until it is certain Maria cant win another slam even with her gone. Sounds perfect to me. I respect Maria a great deal, but I will probably never ever like her.
 
mistik said:
There is nothing extra special about Serena longevity though.Age 34 she didnt even played the same number matches Graf played through 30 years.Serena is no Navratillova or Everett as far as longevity concern. As ı mentoined above she didnt even play as many matches as Graf did,who didnt even play until her mid 30s.
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Any player who has won slams and been #1 over a 17 year span is the best of all time in longevity. Also I have never heard of players named Navratillova and especialy Everett. Maybe you mean Mark Everett, who is actually a former 800 metre male runner for the U.S, but a far as I know has never played WTA tennis.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
It'll be very interesting to see how Serena fares in the other Grand Slams this year. It won't surprise me if she wins one or even two of them(most likely Wimbledon and USO) but on the other hand I can honestly say it wouldn't be too much of a shock if she wins no more. I think the pressure of equalling/surpassing Graf is starting to affect her and it never gets easier to win major trophies as you get older and other players figure out how to beat you.
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I think she will win one or both of Wimbledon and the U.S Open. I don't believe she will win the French. So a 1 or 2 slam year. That is my guess now. I could be wrong of course.
 
There's nothing to be depressed about imo, she reached a slam final which is a great start to the year already and she's only 1 slam away from reaching Graf which is completely doable if her greatness and ability is to be considered. I expect her to have another multi-slam year...at the very least she will definitely win a slam and even if she ends up winning just 1, I think she'll be extremely pleased.

The only depressing thing was her not completing the CYGS last year, if she crashed out at the French Open or Wimbledon then it wouldn't have been so dramatic but the fact that it happened at the USO, her homeground, was a major kick in the balls.

Relax ya'll

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Levi_Ackerman said:
What really annoys me is how everyone seems to root against her. I'm not talking about here on TTW. I could give a **** about the haters here on TTW. I'm talking about the mainstream media and the rest of the tour. They seem to love to see Serena fail. It really saddens me.
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I know exactly what you mean.

Personally, I lay it at their feet (and Drake's! :mad:) that she didn't get a chance to win at the US Open last year.

When everybody from the MSM is in your face with "Are you gonna do it? Are you gonna do it? Are you gonna do it? Are you gonna do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it????????" 24/7 ... your concentration is going to be affected. I know they would have been worse if she hadn't been sweet about it, but I wouldn't have blamed her at all if she'd been like "I will if you LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!"
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Fair point about the longevity but my point still stands about Serena having to face three different gens of players. It's pretty safe to say that Graf would've also lost to some younger/lower tier players in major finals had she carried on for another couple of years. And who's to say she would've even got to any finals let alone win them considering her competition would've comprised of peak Hingis, Davenport, Capriati and the Williams sisters?
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I don't think the point about longevity is fair at all. You measure longevity by when a player starts playing and when the player is done, and what the ranking is during the whole career. Number of matches per year is something else. Maybe stamina plus sometimes freakish good health. ;)

Novak has no claim to longevity yet, because he's still not yet 29. If he is still playing at close to 40, he gets in that club. Fed is pretty much there now. So is Serena. ;)

You guys are talking about iron men and women. Those are the few who keep playing many matches, year after year, stay consistently healthy and look like they are going to play until age 80 until the finally wind up their careers!
 
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I'm probably not as depressed as some of you in here, but Serena had a great tournament. She's starting to feel the pressure of winning slams with the finish line of most career slams in sight, as well as her career winding down. She showed she's human in losing under pressure. Happens to everyone at some point. Serena seemed okay and gracious in defeat. Seemed genuinely happy for Kerber. So cheer up... at least you're not a Sugarpova fan. :D
 
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