Deserving players who never won slam

Many players like David ferrer, Tomáš Berdych, etc
never won slam. What can be the reason for this. They also had a good tennis. I am really curious to know
Many thanks
 

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
I dunno, I think that the lists of "best players never to win a Slam" and "most deserving players never to win a Slam" are a bit different. I'd reckon the first list is a lot longer.

Best players never to win a Slam? That's an easy list, isn't it? Nalbandian, Ferrer, Davydenko, etc. all have very nice resumes which include Masters 1000 wins, YEC victories, and scores of Slam QFs and SFs. But how close did they actually get to winning Slams? Nalbandian has just one Slam final where he got taken to the cleaners by Hewitt in a fairly disastrous performance, and he completely blew his next best chance by choking against Baghdatis of all people in the AO 2006 SF. Ferrer was a master at bending over to the Big 4 in Slam QFs and SFs. No one even remembers his one Slam final because Nadal made very short work of him (and because Nadal's SF was pretty much the de facto final which says a lot). Davydenko never even reached a final.

I don't think there's an era where any of these guys can win a Slam aside from 2016-now and I think we all know this era is a bit of a historical outlier in the grand scheme of things. They were hugely accomplished players in their own right, but "deserving" of a Slam? Not with their performances there imo

Maybe a deserving player would be Coria. Sure, I suppose he choked that RG 2004 final, but he did also get screwed a bit by a serious case of leg cramps. That strikes me as a guy who "deserved" to win the French Open at some point in his career (doesn't have to be 2004) but got a bit unlucky.

Usually, though, there are good reasons why so-and-so player never ended up winning a Slam that have to do with their actual tennis abilities. If you have actual Slam-winning potential, you're gonna end up winning one sometime down the road I think. Even if your name is Goran Ivanisevic.
 

tex123

Professional
Many players like David ferrer, Tomáš Berdych, etc
never won slam. What can be the reason for this. They also had a good tennis. I am really curious to know
Many thanks
Why do you consider them deserving? None of those two were deserving or had the game to win a slam. They may have pulled it off in the Hewitt era. Nalbandian should've won a slam though.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
I dunno, I think that the lists of "best players never to win a Slam" and "most deserving players never to win a Slam" are a bit different. I'd reckon the first list is a lot longer.

Best players never to win a Slam? That's an easy list, isn't it? Nalbandian, Ferrer, Davydenko, etc. all have very nice resumes which include Masters 1000 wins, YEC victories, and scores of Slam QFs and SFs. But how close did they actually get to winning Slams? Nalbandian has just one Slam final where he got taken to the cleaners by Hewitt in a fairly disastrous performance, and he completely blew his next best chance by choking against Baghdatis of all people in the AO 2006 SF. Ferrer was a master at bending over to the Big 4 in Slam QFs and SFs. No one even remembers his one Slam final because Nadal made very short work of him (and because Nadal's SF was pretty much the de facto final which says a lot). Davydenko never even reached a final.

I don't think there's an era where any of these guys can win a Slam aside from 2016-now and I think we all know this era is a bit of a historical outlier in the grand scheme of things. They were hugely accomplished players in their own right, but "deserving" of a Slam? Not with their performances there imo

Maybe a deserving player would be Coria. Sure, I suppose he choked that RG 2004 final, but he did also get screwed a bit by a serious case of leg cramps. That strikes me as a guy who "deserved" to win the French Open at some point in his career (doesn't have to be 2004) but got a bit unlucky.

Usually, though, there are good reasons why so-and-so player never ended up winning a Slam that have to do with their actual tennis abilities. If you have actual Slam-winning potential, you're gonna end up winning one sometime down the road I think. Even if your name is Goran Ivanisevic.
I was a fan of Nikolay but he was not slam winning talent at any point, you can talk about peak fed or what not but he never came close.
Scud,Coria, Nalbandian( wasted us Open 2003 and AO 06) , Soderling and too some extent Tsonga,from the last 30 years, not including current generation as they still have time.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
nalbandian

his case is such an interstellar travesty.......losing winnable wimbledon in 2002 to grass mug hewitt and getting robbed of us open title in 2003 with a poor linescall.......
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
I dunno, I think that the lists of "best players never to win a Slam" and "most deserving players never to win a Slam" are a bit different. I'd reckon the first list is a lot longer.

Best players never to win a Slam? That's an easy list, isn't it? Nalbandian, Ferrer, Davydenko, etc. all have very nice resumes which include Masters 1000 wins, YEC victories, and scores of Slam QFs and SFs. But how close did they actually get to winning Slams? Nalbandian has just one Slam final where he got taken to the cleaners by Hewitt in a fairly disastrous performance, and he completely blew his next best chance by choking against Baghdatis of all people in the AO 2006 SF. Ferrer was a master at bending over to the Big 4 in Slam QFs and SFs. No one even remembers his one Slam final because Nadal made very short work of him (and because Nadal's SF was pretty much the de facto final which says a lot). Davydenko never even reached a final.

I don't think there's an era where any of these guys can win a Slam aside from 2016-now and I think we all know this era is a bit of a historical outlier in the grand scheme of things. They were hugely accomplished players in their own right, but "deserving" of a Slam? Not with their performances there imo

Maybe a deserving player would be Coria. Sure, I suppose he choked that RG 2004 final, but he did also get screwed a bit by a serious case of leg cramps. That strikes me as a guy who "deserved" to win the French Open at some point in his career (doesn't have to be 2004) but got a bit unlucky.

Usually, though, there are good reasons why so-and-so player never ended up winning a Slam that have to do with their actual tennis abilities. If you have actual Slam-winning potential, you're gonna end up winning one sometime down the road I think. Even if your name is Goran Ivanisevic.
Reading this thread, my mind took me to a similar perspective. I'm too arrogant (in my own nice way, of course) to often say this, but you expressed this better than I would have. Great reply!
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
How are we defining "deserving"? like got there should have honestly won but got injured, choked or something? or had the game and just ran into GOAT/ATG competition?

Either way I cannot think of a huge list of people
Nalbandian probably deserves a mention
Dementieva
Henman- I give him a mention for Wimbledon, overall everywhere else, he isn't in the discussion
Davydenko
Sukova
Nishikori maybe? Largely I feel like after all that work at that US Open to lose to Cilic was really well...disappointing
Maybe Rios and Soderling?

I mean its not exactly this huge list...and even then half of it are maybes. There aren't a lot of people that in my mind concretely should have won one but never did except really Nalbandian, possibly Dementieva (2010 French, without the injury? possibly?) Sukova was a shame she never got one.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I was a fan of Nikolay but he was not slam winning talent at any point, you can talk about peak fed or what not but he never came close.
Scud,Coria, Nalbandian( wasted us Open 2003 and AO 06) , Soderling and too some extent Tsonga,from the last 30 years, not including current generation as they still have time.
You could Davy could have won AO in 2006 without Fed.

And yes, I do blame peak Fed nor Nikolay not reaching a slam final while Nishikori has one.
 

gadge

Professional
After 2000
On the men’s side: ferrer, nalbandian, davydenko, tsonga, berdych

On the women’s side: dementieva, radwanska, safina and maybe pliskova
 

gadge

Professional
How are we defining "deserving"? like got there should have honestly won but got injured, choked or something? or had the game and just ran into GOAT/ATG competition?

Either way I cannot think of a huge list of people
Nalbandian probably deserves a mention
Dementieva
Henman- I give him a mention for Wimbledon, overall everywhere else, he isn't in the discussion
Davydenko
Sukova
Nishikori maybe? Largely I feel like after all that work at that US Open to lose to Cilic was really well...disappointing
Maybe Rios and Soderling?

I mean its not exactly this huge list...and even then half of it are maybes. There aren't a lot of people that in my mind concretely should have won one but never did except really Nalbandian, possibly Dementieva (2010 French, without the injury? possibly?) Sukova was a shame she never got one.
Elena dementieva was in a highly competitive era filled with Multi slam winners, so she deserved a slam and maybe safina too (for all the flak she gets for getting no.1, she was still pretty good and quite consistent)
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Elena dementieva was in a highly competitive era filled with Multi slam winners, so she deserved a slam and maybe safina too (for all the flak she gets for getting no.1, she was still pretty good and quite consistent)
I definitely consider Dementieva, along with Sukova and Shriver, the best ladies to not have a major title. But its still a small list. Stretch the point and add potentially Safina, MJ Fernandez....Morozova? Its not like...a huge list no matter how you swing it out.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Best player to never win a slam by far.
Definitely a good candidate for best not to win a major. The only thing was that (and I cheated, by looking it up as I ddin't remember those matches, per se) he got beaten soundly by Lendl in both slam finals. But yeah, I loved watching The Big Cat, and he was a terrific player. If he didn't (forced by injuries) retire at age 26, he may have won a slam or two.
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Other than the trip of Berdych/Ferrer/Tsonga, and perhaps, more than Davydenko and Nalby, I thought of Tom Okker, an early OE player. He lost the first OE final --US Open to Arthur Ashe -- in 5 close sets. He didn't make another final, but did make 3 more SFs and 7more QFS despite missing a lot of AOs and FOs. There may be other, better additions, but yes, Mecir is a great name - and I'd probably put him ahead of the others as well.
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
Soderling deserves mentioning. The only one to take down peak Rafa on RG, yet crumbled in the final against Federer. Then the next year he took down Federer only to lose to Nadal in the final. Lost both finals in straight sets...
 

Jonesy

Hall of Fame
Kevin Anderson is also a good candidate. I know Fed fans won't like it, but Nadal fans will agree with me that Kandy is a good slam finalist.
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Soderling lost to Fedal in 6/8 majors in 2009-2010. Unlucky guy.
I was gonna be a wise guy, and write that he was lucky -- he didn't get Novak.
...just checked Soderlings H2Hs with Big 3.
His best was 2-6 versus Rafa, and he was 1-6 versus Novak.
Against Fed? 1-16. That's almost Ferrer-like futility.
Then again, nobody beats Robin Soderling 17 times in a row!
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
I was gonna be a wise guy, and write that he was lucky -- he didn't get Novak.
...just checked Soderlings H2Hs with Big 3.
His best was 2-6 versus Rafa, and he was 1-6 versus Novak.
Against Fed? 1-16. That's almost Ferrer-like futility.
Then again, nobody beats Robin Soderling 17 times in a row!
Well, Fed at best was 12-0 against Soderling, never 16-0. ;)
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Why do you consider them deserving? None of those two were deserving or had the game to win a slam. They may have pulled it off in the Hewitt era. Nalbandian should've won a slam though.
It's a hypothetical, but as you said in your post, if they were in a different era. It's not their fault they played against the Big 4.
 
You could Davy could have won AO in 2006 without Fed.

And yes, I do blame peak Fed nor Nikolay not reaching a slam final while Nishikori has one.
Davydenko must be the best player to never reach a slam final, can't think of anyone else. Plenty higher-peak players who made slam finals but never won one though.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Davydenko must be the best player to never reach a slam final, can't think of anyone else. Plenty higher-peak players who made slam finals but never won one though.
Davydenko and Henman are in contention for that.

I'd probably pick Davy due to his impressive resume outside the slams.
 
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