Diadem Axis - Svitolina's new racket

WJ155 said:
can we speculate in peace? it’s kinda fun to do so and I noticed the dampener too, but as a diadem user i’d like to at least hope for a second that svitolina funny changed
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I have no issue with speculation i have issue with "there's no way to read their statement other than she definitely switched"
 
aus89 said:
I have no issue with speculation i have issue with "there's no way to read their statement other than she definitely switched"
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I gotchu. I was going for more “she may have switched, they’re seeing if she will”
 
FrankyRelax said:
Interesting that her promo pics include her holding a racquet with lead at 3 and 9
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It would be scandal if she did not. Imagine: on picture, she holds a clean shiny racquet. On court, a racquet with tons of lead at 3/9.
That will leave a very fishy aftertaste…
 
diadem is asking everyone to orange out on their social media today
I wonder what it could be about…
 
I have seen the frames, as I know the person that did the customizations for her Diadem frame.
They look solid, Babolat Pure Aero kinda frame.
 
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I just pm'ed Diadem Europe if they'd interested in sending me the Diadem Axis 98 to share it (BOX NOW) with very trustful people here in Greece like @Blade_X , so these players and their hitting partners demo it. I have friends like these in 6 big. 2 or 3 weeks per city would be enough I think.
 
TennisHound said:
Not sure why they can’t make 98s in 300g with a 23 26 23mm beam?
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It follows the Aero, SX300 way of things. The 100 sq inch is 26mm thick at 9 and 3, while the 98 sq inch is much thinner but not all the way thin as 22mm (control-frames).
It's clear. Diadem aims for the Aero. Interested to see how the "Kraibon" works on the Axis. It was a big upgrade for the Elevate in my experience. It made the overall feel much more stable, no added lead needed, but it muted it quite a bit. But the Axis is 68 RA, so it can't be that mute or vague or string sensitive.
 
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konstantinos kalfountzos said:
It follows the Aero, SX300 way of things. The 100 sq inch is 26mm thick at 9 and 3, while the 98 sq inch is much thinner but not all the way thin as 22mm (control-frames).
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Partially incorrect. The SX 300 Tour retains the 23/26/23mm beam height of its larger 100" silo sibling. That said, it's the only spin 98 to do so; an exception to the "rule", if you can call it that.

Not sure if Dunlop aims to continue that with the new, incoming 2025 SX 300 Tour, but I can only presume they will.
 
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Trip said:
Partially incorrect. The SX 300 Tour retains the 23/26/23mm beam height of its larger 100" silo sibling. That said, it's the only spin 98 to do so; an exception to the "rule", you can call it that.

Not sure if Dunlop aims to continue that with the new, incoming 2025 SX 300 Tour, but I can only presume they will.
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You're right about the SX Tour beam. Confused it with the FX500 Tour being thinner than the FX500.
I didn't think the Nova Tour made much sense being a 100 sq inch with just different balance point and weight. You can customize the regular Nova to the Tour specs, since they share the same beam width and stiffness rating.
 
My potential beef with these Axis frames is the same that I have with the current Nova and Elevate – the layups, specifically Kraibon. IMHO, they need to move on from it, asap. It just mutes/kills the feel. You can get plenty of solidness/comfort on contact with better solid-state modifiers in the layup, as Babolat has proven now with NF2, and/or Technifibre who maintains a simpler layup with foam fill. And Diadem and Tec use the same OEM, so it's not like it can't be done.
 
Trip said:
My potential beef with these Axis frames is the same that I have with the current Nova and Elevate – the layups, specifically Kraibon. IMHO, they need to move on from it, asap. It just mutes/kills the feel. You can get plenty of solidness/comfort on contact with better solid-state modifiers in the layup, as Babolat has proven now with NF2, and/or Technifibre who maintains a simpler layup with foam fill. And Diadem and Tec use the same OEM, so it's not like it can't be done.
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"Objectively", the Kraibon improved the overall playability for the Elevate. But, I moved on from the V3 that I had bought and stuck to the V2 Elevate because I only play recreational tennis and wanted to keep "reviewing" tennis strings at the time and the V3 took away much of the stringbed feedback.
 
konstantinos kalfountzos said:
"Objectively", the Kraibon improved the overall playability for the Elevate.
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Oh, I have no doubt that overall performance has improved. As is the case with most of these stability/comfort "additives". It just that most of them kill a good portion of the feel, which for me at least, happens to be one of the major joy factors of hitting the ball. That crisp, connected "crackle" just can't be substituted. And I get it: the performance matters more than feel these days. Clearly. Otherwise all these manufacturers wouldn't seem to be following suit. But man do a lot of these frames just feel lifeless on contact. Very little nuanced communication/vibration making it through from the string bed, at all.
 
Trip said:
My potential beef with these Axis frames is the same that I have with the current Nova and Elevate – the layups, specifically Kraibon. IMHO, they need to move on from it, asap. It just mutes/kills the feel. You can get plenty of solidness/comfort on contact with better solid-state modifiers in the layup, as Babolat has proven now with NF2, and/or Technifibre who maintains a simpler layup with foam fill. And Diadem and Tec use the same OEM, so it's not like it can't be done.
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Overall I agree but let’s keep in mind that kraibon was also part of head’s touch line - sinner’s speed mp :)
Evelate tour with its higher stiffness feels good to me however I do create better spins with the softer frames (usually)
 
konstantinos kalfountzos said:
It follows the Aero, SX300 way of things. The 100 sq inch is 26mm thick at 9 and 3, while the 98 sq inch is much thinner but not all the way thin as 22mm (control-frames).
It's clear. Diadem aims for the Aero. Interested to see how the "Kraibon" works on the Axis. It was a big upgrade for the Elevate in my experience. It made the overall feel much more stable, no added lead needed, but it muted it quite a bit. But the Axis is 68 RA, so it can't be that mute or vague or string sensitive.
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Thanks for the common knowledge answer. I knew someone would pipe up with the obvious stuff.

Point is, manufacturers get in a rut. They all think that a 98 has to be thin beamed 305 (except Head Radical and Tec TFight 300). There is no manufacturer that sells a 98 in a 23 26 23 frame at 300g, regardless of a need for it.
 
TennisHound said:
Thanks for the common knowledge answer. I knew someone would pipe up with the obvious stuff.

Point is, manufacturers get in a rut. They all think that a 98 has to be thin beamed 305 (except Head Radical and Tec TFight 300). There is no manufacturer that sells a 98 in a 23 26 23 frame at 300g, regardless of a need for it.
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Closest thing to this kind of thickness is the Tecnifibre TF-X1 98, but the crazy-high stock swingweight and the extreme open pattern is a big "no - no".
Then, the rare Prince Beast 98 (25-23-21).
 
I have one of the 98 and 100 headed my way. Not sure if I'll get it earlier than they're published dates. TBD, waiting to hear back.
The stiffness listed between the two strikes me as interesting. But until we see what they play like, the specs don't really matter a ton of me. After hitting and being surprised by the Pure Aero Rafa, anywhere in the 290-315g range is fair game, provided the balance is crazy head heavy (or if it is, its light enough to take handle weight to make it more HL)
 
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I was surprised at first by the 21.5-23.5-22 beam then I realized that’s just the PA98, lol
I’ll be interested to see what everyone thinks about it, but I’m too broke and don’t wanna buy something for 260.
 
holy crap, it’s just an aero clone. didn’t even realize they put the 20 cross in only the 98, so it’s not even debatable.
edit: I knew it was an aero clone, but I must’ve forgotten how close some manufacturers try to match the aero. I imagine aero would be better, but interesting to see some people do it side by side
 
I was on the PA98 play test and it was almost a switch for me but it was just a smidge too uncomfortable and still retained a bit of that Babolat "feel" (that I am not a fan of). If this one can fix those two things, this one could be a big contender for me.
 
I really like the Elevate feel, even if its a bit muted, not as muted as other recent release, I like the foam filled, that's why I'm curious about the new Axis 98.

Tested the PA VS and everyhing was very good but the Bab feeling, tested the latest PA100 and It was a nightmare
 
atatu said:
$259 for a Diadem racket is insane though.
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Agree, but quick trip through the prices from Tennis Warehouse shows that the top of the line racquets from Yonex, Head, Wilson, Babolat and Tecnifibre all run $259 to $299, with one outlier at $310. That's the market Diadem wants to play in, with those five brands accounting for roughly 99% of the pro market. I think this is just a sign of the times. If you don't like it, buy something cheaper, or wait until it goes on sale and becomes last year's model. Diadem often has 10 or 15% off specials and first time purchases which bring the prices somewhat down to earth.
 
Westerwick said:
Agree, but quick trip through the prices from Tennis Warehouse shows that the top of the line racquets from Yonex, Head, Wilson, Babolat and Tecnifibre all run $259 to $299, with one outlier at $310. That's the market Diadem wants to play in, with those five brands accounting for roughly 99% of the pro market. I think this is just a sign of the times. If you don't like it, buy something cheaper, or wait until it goes on sale and becomes last year's model. Diadem often has 10 or 15% off specials and first time purchases which bring the prices somewhat down to earth.
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That's my point, I don't think they are going to be successful competing against the big brands, if someone is going to spend $250 they're going to buy a Yonex or a Babolat. But for $200 ? I'd definitely consider a Diadem. I actually bought a new Nova V3 last year, I can't get rid of it now even for $100.
 
atatu said:
That's my point, I don't think they are going to be successful competing against the big brands, if someone is going to spend $250 they're going to buy a Yonex or a Babolat. But for $200 ? I'd definitely consider a Diadem. I actually bought a new Nova V3 last year, I can't get rid of it now even for $100.
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just wait for a sale where it applies to the Axis. they like to make it price locked and sales don’t immediately apply to those new racquets. 2-3 months later, a good sale brings it down to 180.
 
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