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Looks like Diadora has a replacement for the Speed 5. The Blushield Torneo:
I enjoyed the 5 and Fly 3.
I enjoyed the 5 and Fly 3.
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I also noticed a strange looking new Diadora shoe (I think it was Diadora) on the foot of one of the male playtesters on the recent solinco racquet review.
also, @the_faceless_player any details on what NB shoe you’re testing? Any good?
Website says they are a whole ounce lighter than the BS5s.Blushield Torneo:
Wow I guess manufacturer’s own websites are considered competitors since the links got removed (I learned something new). The other model is called the B Icon
It does look like the same shape is the same but the shoe isn't as long as the BS5. Also it looks taller in the toeboxit still has the elf-toe
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Looks like:
-tighter midfoot
-more aggressive heel counter curvature: could be just pictures but it looks more acute
-overall less wise but also the tapering (@JGads) is less pronounced
-fabric strip as opposed to lace holes will be less durable unless the strips go alllll the way down like in the flys
and for me personally:
-the third eyelet on the medial side is now enforced with an outer substance
I bought and will return the bs5 because that third eyelet on the medial sode is precisely where the pinching occurs when my feet undergoes plantar flexion. I would keep the bs5 if that one singular problem was not there. Either that or had the heel not been as wide. Eliminating 1 of those 2 issues would have convinced me to keep the bs5 but not both
...I do not know what you are seeing but it looks opposite for me manthe amount of hard plastic that did come up over the big toe area is lessened
...I do not know what you are seeing but it looks opposite for me man
EDIT: nevermind. I blind
I think @FloridaAG may get there before him.the foot doc youtuber will get his hands on these soon
See if you can be greedy and ask for the torneos if they honor the warrantyWill see if they honor warranty
I don't know what makes you think that because the diadora website itself says it is 50 grams lighter than the torneo.They have another one coming out too. The "B-icon". The B-icon i think is going to be their heavier, stability shoe. I think...
I don't know what makes you think that because the diadora website itself says it is 50 grams lighter than the torneo.
what else have you worn recently besides the bs5 and raptors?still ordered a pair of the Torneo's
what else have you worn recently besides the bs5 and raptors?
Did you stay with your normal size when ordering the Torneos?
Fokina was wearing the Icons in his match against Mannarino yesterday. Shoes looked to be on acid. (Or designed by someone who was)
Dude, for real on the colorway of the Icons. The colorway just released looks like actual clown shoes.
On a side note, still Diadora related, I really liked that kit Fokina is wearing. Of course I can’t find it anywhere. Anyone in here like wearing their stuff? Cause how the hell do you even get it?? Can only find their lime green stuff and I don’t want that.
Not sure yet, my pair comes in tomorrow. Will report back when I can get them on court. Expectations are sky high after the BS5, because cushioning and stability were stellar. In regards to price tag, yeah it's not cheap, but it was absolutely worth it for the BS5's. Actually feels like you get what you pay for. Time will tell if that's true for the Torneo AG.How is the overall cushioning and stability of this shoe (blushield torneo AG) ? Worth a try? $145 is a lot more than I am willing to spend on a dependable tennis shoe on a regular basis though.
The ff2, barricades, raptors, and vapor nxt were all in 11.5 right?I ordered my normal size of US 11.5 for the Torneo’s. I’m usually between a 11.5 and 12, and 11.5 was perfect in the BS5.
Tried the following within the last year:
Le Coq Sportif LCS_T01 (liked a lot, best shoe I’ve tried besides the BS5 and Raptors, I had to break it in on the outside of my foot at the lateral flange/clip, kept pinching my foot)
Adidas Barricade (wanted to love, hate the elastic eyelits so fit never felt super secure)
Nike Vapor NXT (which I disliked because I wanted tennis shoes, not what felt like boots. Just a weird non vapor feeling.)
Adidas Ubersonic 4 (foam just bottoms so quickly, plus little cushion on the forefoot
Asics Court FF2 (liked, but felt the Raptors were almost a better version of this shoe)
Asics Solution Speed FF2 (I liked but I got this weird pressure feeling on the top of my forefoot)
Other than the Le Coq’s which were semi close, the BS5 and Raptor were both way better than all of these IMO.
Not sure yet, my pair comes in tomorrow. Will report back when I can get them on court. Expectations are sky high after the BS5, because cushioning and stability were stellar. In regards to price tag, yeah it's not cheap, but it was absolutely worth it for the BS5's. Actually feels like you get what you pay for. Time will tell if that's true for the Torneo AG.
The ff2, barricades, raptors, and vapor nxt were all in 11.5 right?
Real high IQ activity from me.
My warranty claim on the Speed 5's was accepted. Diadora says they are sending me Torneos. Hopefully I receive them and when I do, will comment
Big win, nice
The ones from Europe don't have the warranty though right? USA only?@FloridaAG - me too, @curtstead please keep us updated. I bought a 2nd pair of the last generation of BS 5's from TW Europe and was glad I did as I got the last pair in 9.5 to be found. Still in the box.
The ones from Europe don't have the warranty though right? USA only?
Also shorter right? Lengthwise.Less roomy toe box, def more snug in the Torneo’s than the BS5
Also shorter right? Lengthwise.
Any comments on the angle which the pinky side tapers inward?
Man this sure contradicts my correspondence with the tennis store that weighed them for me who say they came in at 469 grams for us10.5noticeably lighter
He also said from looking online, he thinks they could be a stripped down BS5.
Man this sure contradicts my correspondence with the tennis store that weighed them for me who say they came in at 469 grams for us10.5
Me waiting for your bs5 comparison:
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Slightly shorter, but I don't think all that much? I had the BS5s and Torneo's in 11.5 and both fit nicely. I can compare to my BS5's when I get home from the office.
Pinky toe feels fine.
Got my pair today! Will get them on court for a doubles match tonight. Initial impressions right out of the box:
1.) Less roomy toe box, def more snug in the Torneo’s than the BS5, but I think in a good way. Forefoot feels secure.
2.) Not uncomfortable by any means, so no one freak out, but the cushioning isn’t as plush in the Torneo’s as it is in the BS5. Firmer feel underfoot for sure compared to probably the most comfortable tennis shoe I’ve ever worn (BS5). Nothing will ever beat that cloud like feel when stepping in to the BS5, but this feels like a pretty significant change they made here. It still feels pretty good though! No need to worry. This is NOT a firm shoe, just not as plush as before.
3.) Definitely can feel the weight difference on the Torneo’s, they’re noticeably lighter than the BS5’s.
On the cosmetic, I like it, but one of my coworkers here in the office said I look like I'm close to retiring wearing these. I'm 31.