Diadora Blushield Torneo Official Thread

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sorry for the delay

No apologies needed! Thanks for all the info man. LOL @ conflating poker winnings with new shoes somehow though.

1. I wanted to ask about the shoelace straps as there are four of them on each shoe (two on each side). Do the stitching that hold the straps to the shoe seem durable? Pic of broken barricade loop for example:

2. Also, please reconfirm your impressions that the Torneos are indeed a tad shorter than the BS5s when you get the chance.

3. Is the opening of the shoe (I think called ankle collar?) less wide than that of the BS5?

4. Lastly, toebox width compared to the Fly 3 if you also have had a chance to try those too.

Again, much gratitude for such valuable information (Diadora not available in my country).

 

[FloridaAG]

I’ll also add that the ventilation felt good. 60 degrees in Atlanta tonight. No overheating of my feet. As a comparison, I recently played in my old pair of Uber 4’s in 50 degrees weather, and was sweating through them.

I was too tired and crashed last night before I could compare the Torneo’s to the BS5 side by side though. Playing poker right now so I can get to that tomorrow. I wore the Torneo’s all day though and never wanted to take them off.

Are they as good as the BS5? Ehhhhh, probably not but they’re not far off. They’re WAY better than the BS4. That’s for sure.

Lastly, I’ve fallen in love the cosmetic of this White/Silver colorway. Got a compliment at the poker game I’m playing at as I’m typing this. I’m also winning right now, so it has to be the Torneo’s, obv.

Feel free to ask my any questions.

Good report. Thanks

 

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Good report. Thanks

When are you getting yours man?

 

[BrandonPHX]

I just picked a pair of these up last weekend and was able to play in them a little bit. I never owned the BS5, so I can't compare the two, but my first impressions were very good.

They fit my feet well, I thought they felt fairly roomy and got a bit more snug when I put an insert in them. My foot felt nice and locked in but not overly tight. The ride felt soft also and I found them to be extremely comfortable. It was pretty warm this weekend (mid 80's in Phoenix) and the ventilation seemed good, I wasn't overheating at all.

I saw someone ask about weight and they are noticeably lighter than my pair of Nike React Vapor NXT, which I think are about the same weight as the BS5.

So far they seem like a great shoe compared to the Vapors I was using, which felt good in the store but ended up being a trash pair of shoes. Can't wait to play in them some more.

 

[d-quik]

I just picked a pair of these up last weekend and was able to play in them a little bit. I never owned the BS5, so I can't compare the two, but my first impressions were very good.

They fit my feet well, I thought they felt fairly roomy and got a bit more snug when I put an insert in them. My foot felt nice and locked in but not overly tight. The ride felt soft also and I found them to be extremely comfortable. It was pretty warm this weekend (mid 80's in Phoenix) and the ventilation seemed good, I wasn't overheating at all.

I saw someone ask about weight and they are noticeably lighter than my pair of Nike React Vapor NXT, which I think are about the same weight as the BS5.

So far they seem like a great shoe compared to the Vapors I was using, which felt good in the store but ended up being a trash pair of shoes. Can't wait to play in them some more.

Did you really join these boards over a decade ago and post only 5 times?

 

[BrandonPHX]

Did you really join these boards over a decade ago and post only 5 times?

True story.

 

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True story.

Unbelievable

How did you find the heel lockdown or ankle support in the Torneos? Any movement side to side or upwards?

 

[BrandonPHX]

Unbelievable

How did you find the heel lockdown or ankle support in the Torneos? Any movement side to side or upwards?

That video is hilarious! I'm a champion lurker.

I needed to do the lockdown lacing or it felt like there was too much upwards movement. I need to do that with every pair of shoes though, I have a pretty narrow heel. With the lockdown lacing my foot feels locked into place.

 

[curtstead]

No apologies needed! Thanks for all the info man. LOL @ conflating poker winnings with new shoes somehow though.

1. I wanted to ask about the shoelace straps as there are four of them on each shoe (two on each side). Do the stitching that hold the straps to the shoe seem durable? Pic of broken barricade loop for example:

2. Also, please reconfirm your impressions that the Torneos are indeed a tad shorter than the BS5s when you get the chance.

3. Is the opening of the shoe (I think called ankle collar?) less wide than that of the BS5?

4. Lastly, toebox width compared to the Fly 3 if you also have had a chance to try those too.

Again, much gratitude for such valuable information (Diadora not available in my country).

1.) Shoelace straps do not seem to be that crap from the Barricades. I will say that the laces on the Torneo’s feel a little flimsy and flat compared to the BS5’s.

2.) Just compared and they seem just *slightly* shorter than the BS5’s. Definitely less wide, too although I did have to use the last eyelit to get a real secure fit.

3.) I think so? I get a more standard secure feeling putting on the Torneo’s through the ankle collar, although I’d still recommend that last eyelit here.

4.) Somehow, I never tried the Fly 3’s. I’ve tried so many shoes and it’s kind of amazing how that never happened. Ombileble.

I did play doubles in my old 2018 Australian Open Federer Vapor X’s (hot lava color) and I loved that shoe, and I missed having the Torneo’s on.

Since Diadora isn’t available in your country, sounds like you’ll have to pay too dollar to get them to you but man… I kinda wanna say pull the trigger and do it. I’m having trouble picking between these and the Lotto Raptor’s as my go to shoes now.

 

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I kinda wanna say pull the trigger and do it

I'm going to for sure

Also the raptors are probably better though. A few people can't do bs4 or bs5 but virtually everyone likes the raptors.

 

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*slightly* shorter

1/8 in? 1/4 in? Less?

Last question I promise

 

[curtstead]

1/8 in? 1/4 in? Less?

Last question I promise

I don’t have a way to measure it, kinda eyeballing it but maybe 1/8 of an inch?

 

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kinda eyeballing it but maybe 1/8 of an inch?

Much gratitude for the answers. I will remember you... when I win the U.S. Open... wearing these.

 

[Rabbit]

When are you getting yours man?

PM me

 

[FloridaAG]

When are you getting yours man?

Was just informed they have shipped so relatively soon hopefully

 

[innoVAShaun]

1. I wanted to ask about the shoelace straps as there are four of them on each shoe (two on each side). Do the stitching that hold the straps to the shoe seem durable? Pic of broken barricade loop for example:

This happened to my Nike Air Max Breathe 3s. It was an easy fix and just hand stitched it back into place.

 

[curtstead]

Much gratitude for the answers. I will remember you... when I win the U.S. Open... wearing these.

F*** YES

 

[tdm_DR]

I’ll also add that the ventilation felt good. 60 degrees in Atlanta tonight. No overheating of my feet. As a comparison, I recently played in my old pair of Uber 4’s in 50 degrees weather, and was sweating through them. I was too tired and crashed last night before I could compare the Torneo’s to the BS5 side by side though. Playing poker right now so I can get to that tomorrow. I wore the Torneo’s all day though and never wanted to take them off. Are they as good as the BS5? Ehhhhh, probably not but they’re not far off. They’re WAY better than the BS4. That’s for sure.

Lastly, I’ve fallen in love with the cosmetic of this White/Silver colorway. Got a compliment at the poker game I’m playing at as I’m typing this. I’m also winning right now, so it has to be the Torneo’s, obv.

Feel free to ask me any questions.

Thanks for all your information and input.

 

[curtstead]

Another Update:

I don't know if the shoes are just continuing to break in or what, but they're starting to feel rather wide. When using the last eyelit and really tying the laces down, I get a secure fit so it's not an issue. It's just so funny how snug I thought it felt in the beginning to now where it feels wider? So weird.

But I still love them (when tied down)

 

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now where it feels wider

As wide or wider than the BS5s now?

 

[Xabi Alonso]

Another Update:

I don't know if the shoes are just continuing to break in or what, but they're starting to feel rather wide. When using the last eyelit and really tying the laces down, I get a secure fit so it's not an issue. It's just so funny how snug I thought it felt in the beginning to now where it feels wider? So weird.

But I still love them (when tied down)

I see that you've used the LCS T01 before, how would you compare the fit between those shoes and the Torneo?

 

[FloridaAG]

Got the shpping notice, mine set to arrive next Wednesday

 

[Xabi Alonso]

I'm returning my pair that I ordered from TWE. Felt like the toebox wasn't quite roomy enough for my feet, especially on the outside. The weight of the shoe was 442grams if anyone is interested (size 45, US 11).

 

[innoVAShaun]

Looks like there's a clay version also now:

 

[curtstead]

As wide or wider than the BS5s now?

Not quite as wide. Good thing for my feet, imo. Using the extra eyelit is solving any fit issues.

Also, on a wim, I randomly decided to try both the Fly 3's AND the B.Icon's for the first time. Bought the silver/fiery red of the B.Icon's (not the clown shoe colorway) and the White/Fiery Red Fly 3's. Will have a comparison hopefully by next week when they arrive and I've had a weekend of play in them.

I just feel a need to try all that Diadora has to offer, they've been so good to me so far. Even found the new kit for sale that Jan-Lennard Struff and Davidovich Fokina have been wearing.

 

[curtstead]

I see that you've used the LCS T01 before, how would you compare the fit between those shoes and the Torneo?

I don't think I can give you a 100% answer here.. Sorry, but I don't think I can fully accurately compare them simply because when I bought the LCS T01's, it was my first time buying EU sizing as someone who buys US. I got them in 45 and managed to mostly break them in, but at least in those, I think I'm probably a 46 for my US11.5/12 foot. I love the LCS's for what I could get out of them, and they were really comfortable underfoot, but I had to really get them to expand and kept getting this weird pinch feeling on the outside of my left foot.

My best guess in the Le Coq's are more narrow than the Torneo's.

 

[d-quik]

I just feel a need to try all that Diadora has to offer

Yeah I hate how Italian stuff always does that to me. So mediocre on paper, but the designer wanted you to love it, not need it.

 

[curtstead]

FINAL VERDICT:

I've had quite a few more sessions with the Torneo's now, and I think BS5 users would be happy overall. It is not as wide as the BS5's, especially not in the toe box as @Xabi Alonso pointed out when they returned their pair, so keep that in mind. This is still close enough to recommend a buy though. This is a pretty great offering. I can tell Diadora is trying to figure out how to master a lighter weight BS5, and I don't think they are far off.

 

[curtstead]

Yeah I hate how Italian stuff always does that to me. So mediocre on paper, but the designer wanted you to love it, not need it.

Well that designer clearly watched "It" before designing the red colorway of the B.Icon's. Misfire, imo. Straight CLOWN.

 

[d-quik]

next Wednesday

So how is it man? Hopefully not too tight!

 

[FloridaAG]

Now supposed to come today - playing singles this evening hopefully they come in time

 

[curtstead]

https://imgur.com/a/bT9D6Ia

Got my B.Icon’s in today. These are nice looking shoes, imo. Definitely run long, so if you’re between sizes, definitely go down. Might even have to go down if you’re not between sizes!

Very comfortable out of box. Lacing system is interesting, as the lace is tied to this plastic support piece on the outside that runs all the way down to the plastic shank. More narrow width than the Torneo’s, for sure.

I know this is a Torneo’s thread, but I’ll compare these to those when I get em on court tonight. Thanks for taking all of my money, Diadora.

 

[maciej84]

https://imgur.com/a/bT9D6Ia

Got my B.Icon’s in today. These are nice looking shoes, imo. Definitely run long, so if you’re between sizes, definitely go down. Might even have to go down if you’re not between sizes!

Very comfortable out of box. Lacing system is interesting, as the lace is tied to this plastic support piece on the outside that runs all the way down to the plastic shank. More narrow width than the Torneo’s, for sure.

I know this is a Torneo’s thread, but I’ll compare these to those when I get em on court tonight. Thanks for taking all of my money, Diadora.

Very interested in your impressions. Personally I've ordered a clay version of them. I've been playing in Lotto Raptors since June last year and I have no complaints, but maybe a lighter, faster shoe would give me the edge on match days. The Raptors weigh more than 450g for me now, I guess they've accumulated moisture and clay. A friend of mine tried the Raptors after my recommendation and he is amazed by the comfort, stability, traction etc., but he says they basically feel like ski boots to him he's used to playing in light, stripped down shoes. So maybe if I try lighter shoes, I will see a real difference. I don't want to give up on stability and support however, especially lateral (I have a history of sprained ankles).

 

[innoVAShaun]

Contemplating...

 

[curtstead]

Contemplating...

https://c.tenor.com/7EttrztgjiAAAAAM/palpatine-star-wars.gif

 

[curtstead]

https://c.tenor.com/7EttrztgjiAAAAAM/palpatine-star-wars.gif

 

[curtstead]

Fail on my part. I keep trying to post Palpatine saying DO IT

Contemplating...

Fail on my part, I keep trying to post Palpatine saying "DO IT", thanks TTW.

 

[innoVAShaun]

Women's:

 

[innoVAShaun]

Men's:

 

[FloridaAG]

Mine arrived. Just wearing around house. Very comfortable. Roomier than the Flys. Seem not quite as wide as Speed 5s but could be wrong. Seems to be a little Gel Res 8 to them as the front uppers seem more reinforced and less meshy tham the Speed 5. Anyway clearly fit me well, will have to use runners loop to lock heel. Tongue is less plush than Speed 5

Excited to try on court

 

[innoVAShaun]

So, the shop I visited said that in the pickleball community, these are the go-to "light and comfortable" shoe.

 

[curtstead]

So, the shop I visited said that in the pickleball community, these are the go-to "light and comfortable" shoe.

Men's:

Those are good prices on all 3 models.

 

[innoVAShaun]

So I tried on both the all court versions and the clay versions. The store more than welcomed me to try them with my orthotics too.

So I ended up leaving with a thing. Width felt good enough for my 2E feet. I even tightened the toe laces pretty tight for the try on. Just like @FloridaAG , I am excited to get these dirty and try them on court. Stay tuned.

 

[FloridaAG]

I got the same color pattern also - if it were up to me I would have picked the black and red - but mine were a warranty replacement - and I am happy to take whatever they give me.

 

[curtstead]

So I tried on both the all court versions and the clay versions. The store more than welcomed me to try them with my orthotics too.

So I ended up leaving with a thing. Width felt good enough for my 2E feet. I even tightened the toe laces pretty tight for the try on. Just like @FloridaAG , I am excited to get these dirty and try them on court. Stay tuned.

I didn't think of that, GR8 is a good comparison. Glad to know I'm not alone having a pair of these anymore, interested to hear everyone else's thoughts!

 

[curtstead]

Just an update on Diadora's other offerings, B.Icon's are awesome for my medium width foot. Cushioning is fantastic, stability is great, energy return is great. Feel medium/light weight. They LOOK awesome. Good snug fit feels secure, but not tight or cramping whatsoever.

I honestly don't know which shoe is better between the Torneo and the B'Icon. I think foot type matters most to help choose. For medium to wider width, go with the Torneo. With the B.Icon's, medium to narrow width. However, they're both absolutely great. My Fly 3's just arrived, and first step in, I like them a lot too.

End of the day, as of now: Diadora with these 3 options, plus Lotto with the Raptors, Italians are just absolutely killing it right now. Maybe this is recency bias, but other brands (other than Asics, IMO) just don't even feel close to releasing anything as good as these.

 

[innoVAShaun]

Just an update on Diadora's other offerings, B.Icon's are awesome for my medium width foot. Cushioning is fantastic, stability is great, energy return is great. Feel medium/light weight. They LOOK awesome. Good snug fit feels secure, but not tight or cramping whatsoever.

I honestly don't know which shoe is better between the Torneo and the B'Icon. I think foot type matters most to help choose. For medium to wider width, go with the Torneo. With the B.Icon's, medium to narrow width. However, they're both absolutely great. My Fly 3's just arrived, and first step in, I like them a lot too.

End of the day, as of now: Diadora with these 3 options, plus Lotto with the Raptors, Italians are just absolutely killing it right now. Maybe this is recency bias, but other brands (other than Asics, IMO) just don't even feel close to releasing anything as good as these.

Not to mention they all come in clay versions here in the US!

 

[d-quik]

Fly 3's

ended up leaving with a thing

Can you two highly distinguished gentlemen of great sophistication and culture please compare the toe width of the Fly 3 vs the Torneos?

Also (specifically for inno since I already asked curt before) any comments on heel slippage from the torneo's wide opening?

This could be the sensation of the heel slipping "out of" the shoe OR the heel slipping "side to side inside" the shoe, either one qualifies.

Much thanks

 

[FloridaAG]

Torneos toe is considerably wider than the Fly. I am confident with runner loop, I am not going to have a heel slippage issue. Will feport tomorrow

 

[curtstead]

Torneos toe is considerably wider than the Fly. I am confident with runner loop, I am not going to have a heel slippage issue. Will feport tomorrow

Agree with this. Wearing fly's now, and Torneo toebox is wider.