Diadora Blushield Torneo Official Thread

JGads

G.O.A.T.
How’s the forefoot cushioning on this shoe? This being a “lighter” version of the BS5 (according to prior posts), wondering if that means they stripped some forefoot cushioning?
 

innoVAShaun

Legend
Can you two highly distinguished gentlemen of great sophistication and culture please compare the toe width of the Fly 3 vs the Torneos?

Also (specifically for inno since I already asked curt before) any comments on heel slippage from the torneo's wide opening?

This could be the sensation of the heel slipping "out of" the shoe OR the heel slipping "side to side inside" the shoe, either one qualifies.

Much thanks

I did not try the Fly but was quickly sold on the Torneo. It is nowhere near as wide as my previously purchased SFX3. I would categorize it as a “generous medium” width. My wide orthotics fit just fine and the gave me good response with no heel slippage when imitating tennis movements on the carpeted store flooring.

The rep did have me try a half size larger when I told him about my wider feet and definitely felt too roomy for me. Room up front of my orthotics and spacious all around and heel slipped during my tennis movement simulation. It felt exactly like my SFX3.

I will not be able to playtest my new Torneos until Wednesday. I will definitely report back about my toe box and heel slippage as we play on the green dirt. I am looking forward to dirtying up another pair of my white shoes!
 

curtstead

Professional
How’s the forefoot cushioning on this shoe? This being a “lighter” version of the BS5 (according to prior posts), wondering if that means they stripped some forefoot cushioning?

I think it’s good. Not as beefy as BS5’s, but still good. Better than the Fly 3’s, too. It’s noticeable. B.Icon’s forefoot cushioning is great, too.
 

innoVAShaun

Legend
How’s the forefoot cushioning on this shoe? This being a “lighter” version of the BS5 (according to prior posts), wondering if that means they stripped some forefoot cushioning?

The stock insole is just your basics Ortholite insert. Nothing special about it. Same one that comes with Nikes so feels like typical cushioning to me.

Just walking in them I feel good energy return

I agree. A plus with my orthotic insoles.
 

innoVAShaun

Legend
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innoVAShaun

Legend
You went the same sizes in the SFX3 and Torneos? Any plans to try (not buy) Fly 3?

Yes. The Torneos fit me perfectly. The SFX3 feel a half size too large.

I might just try on the Fly 3s. If this Wednesday's playtest goes well, I will head back to the pro shop to grab the clay Torneos.
 
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FloridaAG

Hall of Fame
Fly 3 are slightly too narrow in the toe box and do not have enough support or stability for me personally. Despite being lighter, I feel slower in them and they hurt my feet after a couple hours

Depends on your foot and what you need in shoes. I prefer support and stability to light weight.
 

FloridaAG

Hall of Fame
Back from courts. 3 sets of doubles. For me, they performed great. 3 hours and i did not notice them and feet and joints feel great. Close to perfect fit for me. With runners loop no heel slippage. Without I would have had a little. Perhaps better for me than the Speed 5. Feel slightly less clunky

Anyway, very happy first run
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Back from courts. 3 sets of doubles. For me, they performed great. 3 hours and i did not notice them and feet and joints feel great. Close to perfect fit for me. With runners loop no heel slippage. Without I would have had a little. Perhaps better for me than the Speed 5. Feel slightly less clunky

Anyway, very happy first run

What size would you recommend on these? To be honest I was sort of between sizes in the BS5 - went down a half to 9.5 based on people's recommendations but indeed was slightly cramped in the toes by that inward slant. Based on people saying these are slightly more narrow and maybe even shorter, I was thinking if I ordered these for a try on the 10 would probably be the best bet? A tough call I know.
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
I was thinking if I ordered these for a try on the 10 would probably be the best bet
I had to return the BS5s in 12 after I blasphemously went against Florida's recommendations of sizing down. I should have went 11.5.

If you felt you should have stayed your normal size for the bs5, there is no way you should have to size down in the torneos. Even I am going to get them in the regular size (12) so you should too based on your experience.
 

FloridaAG

Hall of Fame
I have them in US 10 and EU 44. Same as the Speeds but they seem slightly smaller. Some brands I am a 10.5 but definitely a 10 in these as I was in the Speed 5s
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
If the Speed 5s were too cramped in 9.5 then I would definitely go to 10 for these. Can always wear thicker or 2 pairs of socks

Yeah, problem when I tried the 10s was I then had a bit of heel slippage but it really sounds like the 10 would be the best bet here if the shoes are more narrow at all. By the way did you notice any difference in the arch support from BS5? That was low for me in that shoe but Diadora claims there is a “reinforced arch” in this version. Any difference you can tell or not really?
 

d-quik

Hall of Fame
I then had a bit of heel slippage
Dude that was my whole inspiration for this thread and my endless questions regarding slippage here in this one. I feel these are heel lock lqcimg only shoes or something. we may have the same feet.

the best option honestly were the "sized down" BS4s I bet. That ship has long sailed but that had a soft upper that allowed you to size down.

The bs5s were "too cramped" for me as well (due to the harder material and shape) to go down half size. True size was too big. Truly stuck between sizes.

Now with the torneos I feel the upper is even harder, along with the smaller fit, means I should be able to go with normal size. Better than being stuck in between sizes ala the BS5s for sure.

The heel lockdown is the only fault now. The opening is so wide. I have never worn shoes that absolutely required the runner's loop before, and it makes me feel the laces will collapse my arch sometimes from the extra force!

Shame because other than the heel thing I ****ing love those Diadoras. It truly is the only issue. :(
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Dude that was my whole inspiration for this thread and my endless questions regarding slippage here in this one. I feel these are heel lock lqcimg only shoes or something. we may have the same feet.

the best option honestly were the "sized down" BS4s I bet. That ship has long sailed but that had a soft upper that allowed you to size down.

The bs5s were "too cramped" for me as well (due to the harder material and shape) to go down half size. True size was too big. Truly stuck between sizes.

Now with the torneos I feel the upper is even harder, along with the smaller fit, means I should be able to go with normal size. Better than being stuck in between sizes ala the BS5s for sure.

The heel lockdown is the only fault now. The opening is so wide. I have never worn shoes that absolutely required the runner's loop before, and it makes me feel the laces will collapse my arch sometimes from the extra force!

Shame because other than the heel thing I ****ing love those Diadoras. It truly is the only issue. :(

I feel your pain. I have a stupid foot (wide, high arch, narrow heel) that has me constantly hunting for the best option. BS5s were close. The new Revolt Pro 4s may be my answer on clay, but the forefoot cushioning is a bit thin and minimalistic for hardcourt and my operated knee, which is why I’m considering these for some hard court action now. Possibly then clay if they can beat the Revolt Pros. The struggle is real.
 

tdm_DR

New User
Hi, just my 2 cents: i bought these a week ago in my usual size 10.5 and they feel amazing. Just like the raptors but maybe a tad more generous fit in the forefoot. You may feel them snug in the toe area when trying them on (I really thought my big toe was rubbing up front with socks on) but after 2 sessions they are now wider than my raptors and I love them. These are the most comfortable tennis shoes I’ve worn, not just tennis shoes, maybe in the athletic range. I too have to tight them a bit for heel lock but my orthotic insoles and thorlos socks feel great on these. Can’t compare them to the BS 5s but boy these are awesome. I got the triple white color and will be ordering the white/black/fiery red combination very soon just to stock up. I regret not buying the BS 5s… i waited too long and when I was ready to pull the trigger couldn’t find my size anywhere. I live overseas so I can only order shoes online.

And just for reference: my feet is medium/standard (not wide) with low arch. I have the impression that these shoes fit a wide range of foot: medium/ wide and EE, low-high arch without any issues. You can order your usual size and just wear them on court, you’ll see they will give you more room after that.
 
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d-quik

Hall of Fame
Hi, just my 2 cents: i bought these a week ago in my usual size 10.5 and they feel amazing. Just like the raptors but maybe a tad more generous fit in the forefoot. You may feel them snug in the toe area when trying them on (I really thought my big toe was rubbing up front with socks on) but after 2 sessions they are now wider than my raptors and I love them. These are the most comfortable tennis shoes I’ve worn, not just tennis shoes, maybe in the athletic range. I too have to tight them a bit for heel lock but my orthotic insoles and thorlos socks feel great on these. Can’t compare them to the BS 5s but boy these are awesome. I got the triple white color and will be ordering the white/black/fiery red combination very soon just to stock up. I regret not buying the BS 5s… i waited too long and when I was ready tu pull the trigger couldn’t find my size anywhere. I live overseas so I can only order shoes online.

ohh, just for reference: my feet is medium/standard (not wide) with low arch. I have the impression that these shoes fit a wide range of foot: medium/ wide and EE, low-high arch without any issues. You can order your usual size and just wear them on court, you’ll see they will give you more room after that.
You found my reddit thread!
 

innoVAShaun

Legend

Today's playtest was a success! Lots of response from the Torneos on the har-tru courts with my orthotic insoles. They definitely sit a little higher than my Nike Vapor X Wides and Oscillates but not a bad thing. Still felt pretty light and never felt weighed down or a loss in step. Serving felt normal in these shoes. No stability issues or fear of rolling an ankle. Sliding on the green clay was just as easy. No heel slippage and toes felt snug, safe and secure. These are definitely keepers and hope they keep this model for a while.

I was able to hold my own against some pretty intense players today. I am overall happy with the Torneos.

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innoVAShaun

Legend
No man you can fit a finger behind your right ankle in that Pic though. There is so much space between the ankle and shoe

They're not tied at all. Before and after play, I pull the lace excess through the top two eyelets. Then I even the slack out by pulling the tongue up and out.
 

innoVAShaun

Legend
Today's playtest was a success! Lots of response from the Torneos on the har-tru courts with my orthotic insoles. They definitely sit a little higher than my Nike Vapor X Wides and Oscillates but not a bad thing. Still felt pretty light and never felt weighed down or a loss in step. Serving felt normal in these shoes. No stability issues or fear of rolling an ankle. Sliding on the green clay was just as easy. No heel slippage and toes felt snug, safe and secure. These are definitely keepers and hope they keep this model for a while.

I was able to hold my own against some pretty intense players today. I am overall happy with the Torneos.

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Oh, now I think I see what you're talking about. It's Nike Elite pattern on the achilles.
 
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d-quik

Hall of Fame
Hey man you said you were going to play today and maybe go try the Flys. Didn't go down I'm assuming.
 

innoVAShaun

Legend
I played but didn't make the trip to the pro shop. It's about a 50 min drive in the opposite direction. I plan to go back and pick up the clay versions by the end of the month.
 

maciej84

Rookie
Man I’m so happy everyone seems to be loving this shoe. I know slippage has been an issue but runners loop/last eyelit really does secure it.

@curtstead any further feedback about the Icons? I have been wearing them at home for a couple of days and I'm impressed, forefoot cushioning seems much better than in the Lotto Raptors, which honestly surprised me a lot. They are also 50g lighter (Icons: 399g, Raptors: 456g). They really seem a fast, dynamic shoe that also provides a lot of comfort.

I am concerned about two things, however. The first one is the toe box size, it is definitely a bit narrower and shallower than in the Raptors. When I wear one sock, the fit is good, but when I tried with 2 socks (like I usually play), my forefoot and toes felt a bit cramped. Did you notice that area expanding a bit, when the shoe gets broken in?

And the second doubt is lateral support and stability, my right ankle has a long history of sprains. I used to play in a brace, which was really annoying, but I just did not feel secure without it. And then I found the Raptors. It's now been 9 months without a sprain and I'm playing without a brace! The Raptors have this sharp lateral edge on the outsole, 90 degrees, it apparently makes it so hard to roll over it. Also the outsole is wide. It's been keeping my ankle safe. In Icons, the outsole is some 3-4 milimeters narrower. Also, the edge is a bit round. I wonder how it affects lateral security. Do you have any impressions in that area regarding Icons? Torneos seem to have a sharper edge, do they?
 
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JGads

G.O.A.T.
Couldn't resist ordering these for an at-home try-on but they're headed back. Close but no cigar for me, however they felt like they can be very good shoes for the right foot shape/type/player. Nice cushioning still. Definitely more snug all around than the BS5. Whereas in the BS5 I was between a 9.5 and a 10, in these I'd be between a 10 (which I tried) and 10.5 - because my outside toes on my right foot were really jamming off into the sides/upper and spilling over the edge of the sole too much on the initial try on for me to feel comfy keeping them and going forward. The curse of the wide foot combined with that angling-in of these Diadoras and many other models. Had heel slippage just walking around initially, but when I went to the furthest eyelet, that went away and ankle felt locked in - better than the BS5, from what I remember. Upper toe area didn't have as much of that hard plastic shell it seemed as the BS5 and didn't seem in any danger of that hard crease thing happening as also happened initially with the BS5. Anyway, can't report much else because I won't be playing in them but that's my try-on experience, at least. White/black/reds and they looked nice in person.
 
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