I will put Flys and Torneos on scale tomorrow or Saturday - I think the Flys are going to come out slightly lighter than the Torneos
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I will put Flys and Torneos on scale tomorrow or Saturday - I think the Flys are going to come out slightly lighter than the Torneos
curtstead
Professional
Man, they are very comfortable, I agree. Ever since the BS5, my forefoot is very sensitive to cushioning, and the Icon's do it very well. I think it's a new midsole foam in the Icons, too. I forgot what it's called, but I don't think it's Blushield tech.
I only play with one pair of socks, so I can't comment on them breaking in further, but I like the snug feeling in the toebox. I haven't had any cramped feeling, even during break-in.
Support wise, I don't know if anything will beat the Raptor's in that regard because I agree. They are insanely stable, I don't think I've had a rollover even once. That being said, the Icon's have felt very stable thus far. I've played two doubles matches in them and have had no issues whatsoever. I'll be playing in them a lot more beginning tomorrow, I have 4 doubles matches in a row Friday-Monday, so I think I'm gonna alternate between the Icons, Torneos, and Raptors. That way, I can give a real fresh perspective. I'll focus a lot on stability, cause comfort and fit wise (at least fit for me), they are all amazing.
curtstead
Professional
That could be right. It just feels like the Torneo's are so well built, that the weight is pretty evenly distributed. I think the outsole on the Fly's feel slightly bulky, or slightly weighted down, so that might be what's giving me that slightly heavier sensation.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
Odd, man. I returned the bs5 because of this but the pinching occurred between the 2nd and 3rd (counting from toe to heel) eyelet on the medial side.
It would be where the hard white outer and the soft green outer meet on the RIGHT shoe:
So this is also due to length? Or width only?
JGads
G.O.A.T.
Odd, man. I returned the bs5 because of this but the pinching occurred between the 2nd and 3rd (counting from toe to heel) eyelet on the medial side.
It would be where the hard white outer and the soft green outer meet on the RIGHT shoe:
So this is also due to length? Or width only?
Mainly width. I would ballpark that these run ever so shorter in length as well. But I would echo what some others in here have said about it feeling like a lighter shoe, not quite so chunky as the bs5. Perhaps because of the tighter fit this one seems to wrap and move with the foot more tightly and a little more lightly.
As for the crease, you had it in a different area than me. I had it right where that foot is actually creasing in the photo, but the hard shell of the bs5 would come down onto my toe as well, quite uncomfortable for that first wear but then it pretty much went away after.
The uppers are designed and structured more differently than I expected- I did not have the crease problem but I do not think it would be the same in the Torneos as on the SpeedsOdd, man. I returned the bs5 because of this but the pinching occurred between the 2nd and 3rd (counting from toe to heel) eyelet on the medial side.
It would be where the hard white outer and the soft green outer meet on the RIGHT shoe:
So this is also due to length? Or width only?
d-quik
Hall of Fame
The midfoot and heel is narrower than the bs5 right? While the toebox is the same width?
d-quik
Hall of Fame
The Raptors were shorter than the Torneos/Fly's in the same (US) size, right?
curtstead
Professional
Yes, but not much! I think they got the length right.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
Also narrower than the Fly 3s right? Would you say the upper of the raptors is stretchier or stiffer than the Fly 3s? Much gratitude for the insight.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
No tennisonly.com.au ?
McGradey
Hall of Fame
d-quik
Hall of Fame
But they have the BluShield 5s though. You don't like those?I emailed them about these and was told they aren't getting them
McGradey
Hall of Fame
Don’t like them as much as the Torneos, no
d-quik
Hall of Fame
Would you agree that the torneos are only less wide in the midfoot and heel vs the BS5, while the toes are of the same width?
Good luck with the tennis
d-quik
Hall of Fame
The midfoot and heel are of the same width though?
d-quik
Hall of Fame
They claim the torneos are a tad narrower along the entirety of the shoe's length. So the toebox, forefoot, midfoot, and ankle all narrower but by the smallest of amounts. Sounds legit to me but maybe not for your nail, unsure.
janelgreo
Professional
Was torn between these and the B Icons but ended up getting these (white/white so I can feel like I’m in Wimbledon where I go) as my slightly larger right foot (length and width) could possibly use the larger toe box. That being said, I’ll probably still order B Icons to try them out as they seem perfect for my play style. Coming from GR8’s which killed my right toes, so looking forward to trying these babies out!
Also how are these shoes on clay/har tru?
Also how are these shoes on clay/har tru?
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innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
I playtested my All Ground (AG) Torneos on har-tru and they were just fine. I was still able to move well and slide on demand.
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
BTW, the other day a grocery store worker randomly complimented my white/white Torneos.
janelgreo
Professional
Honestly, they're the cleanest white shoes out there. The white with the silver and the TINY italian flag accent, beautiful. **Chefs kiss**
Now they need to make a black one when I wanna go dark mode.
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
I ended up swapping the flat white w/silver laces with some white oval ones:
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
Have yours arrived yet?
janelgreo
Professional
Tomorrow! 2-day shipping was the fastest free shipping I could get lol. Seeing your pic made me even more excited, they're beautiful man
bigserving
Hall of Fame
It would be nice if Diadora had a larger presence within the tennis shoe market. I have played in their shoes on and off for years. They are always well made and very soft and comfortable.
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
Not as wide as the Babolat SFX, but still pretty generous. I'm just below a 2E.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
I can't remember, you ended up not getting these right?
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
Yes, I bought them. I use them for the gym now.
janelgreo
Professional
It's tough unless they get pro's, they don't have enough eyes on their brand. Still though, for not being so widely known the quality they put out is impeccable. You can tell they care about their products and making the best shoe possible.
Anyways, I received mine on Saturday and immediately put them on. With my right big toe still "bruised" and a bit sensitive to the touch I immediately felt my right toes being a bit cramped, my left foot was perfect.
They're super comfortable and look sweet, I also felt the immediate difference compared to my GR8's. I think when my toes heal up, these will be perfect with the right sock. If I use the runners knot I get a nice tight fit with little to no movement in the feet, so that should help with future bruising as the toe's won't (hopefully) jam into the front of the toebox.
Tried them on again and I decided to put them up for sale... unfortunately I do feel like it'll be too tight for my right foot. I know I could go up a .5 size and it'll work perfectly but since I'm doing that I ended up just going with B Icons. I know they're narrower but the issue I've been having is moreso the length.
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innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
JGads
G.O.A.T.
^noticed he made the change away from his other shoes earlier and actually thought to myself, "I wonder if this means he'll stop falling five times a match." The answer to that was a distinctive No. But helluva performance. Wonder if he'll stick with them on hard. They look great.
d-quik
Hall of Fame
You had a bad experience with these?
EDIT: nvm, just read the old posts. I guess you didn't try the 10.5
JGads
G.O.A.T.
Only tried these on, didn't buy. But they did feel like a quality shoe.
I own the SFX. I agree on the fit. Not as wide as SFX but plenty of room.
BMuskovitz
New User
I just got both the B Icon and the Torneo. I wear custom orthotics for flat feet. I am not a wide per se, but the orthotics take up a lot of room. I can't fit most shoes and used to play in GR8s wide. I gotta admit the B Icons are not as narrow as I thought. They fit pretty well, almost better than the Torneo. Gotta wear them both inside for awhile and make a choice. Pleasantly surprised with the fit of the B Icon! I have been wearing the BS5s due to their wider fit. Both of these shoes are an improvement. Has anyone noticed any stretching out on the fit as they played in either shoe?
I think if the B Icon stretches just a little, it might be perfect - same for the Torneo. Might be a tough choice!
I think if the B Icon stretches just a little, it might be perfect - same for the Torneo. Might be a tough choice!
innoVAShaun
G.O.A.T.
California
Semi-Pro
Blueshield Torneo vs Lotto Raptor 100 SPD. Can anyone compare these two shoes? Fit, cushioning, durability, etc…. Which do you prefer and why? I play only on hard courts, and have a medium width foot. Thanks in advance.
