Diadora Torneo 3

vsbabolat

vsbabolat

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Just got a pair of the Torneo 3. So far a great update. Fits my wide forefoot and my narrow heel. Has very a plush ride. One annoying thing about the shoes is the length of the laces. Supper long and annoying.
 
vsbabolat said:
Just got a pair of the Torneo 3. So far a great update. Fits my wide forefoot and my narrow heel. Has very a plush ride. One annoying thing about the shoes is the length of the laces. Supper long and annoying.
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How is the fit compared to the Torneo 2?
 
vsbabolat said:
Just got a pair of the Torneo 3. So far a great update. Fits my wide forefoot and my narrow heel. Has very a plush ride. One annoying thing about the shoes is the length of the laces. Supper long and annoying.
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Does it feel “heavy” (considering it is a 16oz shoe), or does it play lighter than its weight suggests? How’s the forefoot cushioning? Are you able to draw any comparisons to Eclipsion 5 or Revolt Pro, if you’ve ever played those shoes
 
adchris2 said:
Does it feel “heavy” (considering it is a 16oz shoe), or does it play lighter than its weight suggests? How’s the forefoot cushioning? Are you able to draw any comparisons to Eclipsion 5 or Revolt Pro, if you’ve ever played those shoes
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The midsole has been redesigned and seems more supportive. The heel is locked down nicely. My foot runs wide and doesn’t pinch the outside of my feet. I played in the Revolt Pro 3.5 and 4.0. These are a little longer.
 
adchris2 said:
Does it feel “heavy” (considering it is a 16oz shoe), or does it play lighter than its weight suggests? How’s the forefoot cushioning? Are you able to draw any comparisons to Eclipsion 5 or Revolt Pro, if you’ve ever played those shoes
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I am also curious to know how these compare to the Eclipsion 5s as these are my benchmark right now for the best combination of stability, mobility, and cushioning.
 
The Big Kahuna said:
I am also curious to know how these compare to the Eclipsion 5s as these are my benchmark right now for the best combination of stability, mobility, and cushioning.
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How is the toebox width on Eclipsion 5s? Good for wider than D feet? Or compared to Gel Res9 or Diadora shoes width?
 
vsbabolat said:
Just got a pair of the Torneo 3. So far a great update. Fits my wide forefoot and my narrow heel. Has very a plush ride. One annoying thing about the shoes is the length of the laces. Supper long and annoying.
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how is the cushioning compared some of the best cushioned tennis shoes out there like nike GT turbo of the past ? also torneo 2 i bought before was bit short, not sure why, i had to return it, i almost think you have to buy 1/2 bigger for longer length ? :unsure:
 
Nostradamus said:
how is the cushioning compared some of the best cushioned tennis shoes out there like nike GT turbo of the past ? also torneo 2 i bought before was bit short, not sure why, i had to return it, i almost think you have to buy 1/2 bigger for longer length ? :unsure:
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It feels ver plush and cushioned. I found the 3 to run true to size for my foot. I haven’t worn the GT Turbo.
 
z00 said:
How is the toebox width on Eclipsion 5s? Good for wider than D feet? Or compared to Gel Res9 or Diadora shoes width?
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I have no issues with the toe box and width of the Eclipsion 5s. I HATED the Gel Res 8-10 - the "Dynawrap" strap around my forefoot crushed my feet. Horrible. Ordering a pair of the Diadora Torneo 3s and have high hopes. I used to wear the B.Icon before they messed it up with Version 2 and thought those were terrific. I don't expect any fit issues with the Diadoras based on my experience.
 
Nostradamus said:
how is the cushioning compared some of the best cushioned tennis shoes out there like nike GT turbo of the past ? also torneo 2 i bought before was bit short, not sure why, i had to return it, i almost think you have to buy 1/2 bigger for longer length ? :unsure:
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Toreno 3 is plush and cushioned rather than a “bounce house” like the GP Turbo. Equal comfort with less bounce but feels much more stable.
 
The Big Kahuna said:
Toreno 3 is plush and cushioned rather than a “bounce house” like the GP Turbo. Equal comfort with less bounce but feels much more stable.
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i like bounce house. anyway, according to heel thickness test from that footdoctor,,, Mizuno enforce tour had the thickest heel cushioning of any shoes except that GP turbo , of course. Torneo 3 was pretty close as well as that Novak Djokovic shoes. Surpringly Novak's shoes had Thicker Heel cushioning than the resolution 10
 
I've been wearing the Lacoste AG-LT Ultra's since the 2023 came out. My Blushield Torneo 3s come tomorrow. Foot Doc’s review sold me, like his did on the Speed Blusheild 5 years ago. Probably been a long time coming, but looking forward to trying Diadora again after multiple years away from the brand. I liked the first edition of the Torneo overall, but that had nothing on the legendary Diadora Speed Blushield 5, one of the best shoes made since I started playing tennis in 2018. It was a step down, IMO, and was probably impossible to follow up anyways. I have one pair left of the Blushield 5s, they're clay only that I bought for a clay tournament and have only worn on court a couple times. I'm wearing them as I type this... even 4 years later, they're soooooo good and so comfortable.

Been having some fun stuff with my knee the last month, and while it's getting better, made the decision to go a bit more plush and heavier set than my Lacoste AGLT 23s, as sad as I am to leave those after nearly 2 years of maining those.

Will post impressions after a practice tomorrow and match saturday morning.
 
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d-quik said:
That sucks :(

Welcome back to the shoes subforum though. Have you considered the Solematch Control 2 by chance? Those have boost cushioning.
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Thanks, man! Long time!

Boost cushioning???
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Makes me think back to the SoleCourt Boost days. :-( How good we had it back in 2019/early 2020...
 
Quick question to everyone in the know. I bought Torneo 2 a couple of years ago and it gave me Achilles tendon pain immediately (like within 5 minutes of plaing in them). I also experienced major heel sleepage. I have medium to slightly narrow feet. The fit was good otherwise. I do have chronic Achilles tendonitis, but I keep it under control for several years now with my current shoes. I can play completely pain-free most of the time. I wonder if Torneo 3 has the same last and design of the heel counter as the Torneo 2, or it's different enough that I can give Torneo line a second chance. The reviews look promising.
 
Tranqville said:
Quick question to everyone in the know. I bought Torneo 2 a couple of years ago and it gave me Achilles tendon pain immediately (like within 5 minutes of plaing in them). I also experienced major heel sleepage. I have medium to slightly narrow feet. The fit was good otherwise. I do have chronic Achilles tendonitis, but I keep it under control for several years now with my current shoes. I can play completely pain-free most of the time. I wonder if Torneo 3 has the same last and design of the heel counter as the Torneo 2, or it's different enough that I can give Torneo line a second chance. The reviews look promising.
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Yes the Torneo 2, Torneo 1, along with the older Blushield 5 and Blushield 4 were essentially variations of the same models. These shoes all had heel slip issues which often ran opposite of the Resolution 8. That is to say, people who had heel slippage in the Diadoras found the Resolutions to have great lockdown and conversely, people who had heel slippage in the Resolutions found the Diadoras to have great lockdown. I think it had to do with the people's arch height or something. You ran out of Solematch Controls? IIRC you found the 1st generation of the SMC to be a very good fit for you.
 
d-quik said:
I think it had to do with the people's arch height or something. You ran out of Solematch Controls?
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I have been mainlining Lotto Raptor Hyperpulse 100 for the last three years. The fit is absolutely perfect on those, as if there were custom made for me. On a sidenote, tried on Eclipsion 5 today, and the forefoot was too wide for me.
 
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Sadly, these are being sent back to TW.

The medium fit is not as generous as previous gen Torneos. Once the insole was replaced with my prescription orthotics, a majority of cushioning was sacrificed. I mimicked tennis movements on my hardwood floors and did not feel the same responsiveness as with the other gens either. They also felt hard as a rock.

I'll prob stock up on the Torneo 2 wides. If they decide to release a wide version of these, I might consider giving them another go tho.
 
Tranqville said:
forefoot was too wide
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Are you serious? E5 wider than Raptors in the forefoot? You use EU sizing though, right?

I doubt this would have been the case if you used U.S. sizing. Did you try the E5 down 0.5 size to see if the wideness went away?
 
d-quik said:
Are you serious? E5 wider than Raptors in the forefoot? You use EU sizing though, right?

I doubt this would have been the case if you used U.S. sizing. Did you try the E5 down 0.5 size to see if the wideness went away?
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US 13 sizing for both. I can't wear any shorter in Yonex E5 though. What a bummer!
 
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curtstead said:
My Blushield Torneo 3s come tomorrow
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What ended up happening here? Do you have any interest in the second generation of the Wave Enforce Tour? They removed the booty-liner construction and stiffened up the midsole, so it isn't as comfortable. More responsive though! :unsure:
 
d-quik said:
What ended up happening here? Do you have any interest in the second generation of the Wave Enforce Tour? They removed the booty-liner construction and stiffened up the midsole, so it isn't as comfortable. More responsive though! :unsure:
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I like them so far. It’s just different from my Lacoste and still trying to get used to that. I don’t feel quite as fast, and I felt slow the first time on court. Maybe it was break-in after that cause it got much better afterwards. They are comfortable though, like as good as the Speed Blushield 5s imo in that regard.

Outsole is crazy durable so far as well. I’m a pretty big toe dragger, I’ll bald the outsole there pretty quick on most shoes and they’re holding up big time!
 
Tranqville said:
Quick question to everyone in the know. I bought Torneo 2 a couple of years ago and it gave me Achilles tendon pain immediately (like within 5 minutes of plaing in them). I also experienced major heel sleepage. I have medium to slightly narrow feet. The fit was good otherwise. I do have chronic Achilles tendonitis, but I keep it under control for several years now with my current shoes. I can play completely pain-free most of the time. I wonder if Torneo 3 has the same last and design of the heel counter as the Torneo 2, or it's different enough that I can give Torneo line a second chance. The reviews look promising.
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If you have a narrow foot and want a Yonex, consider the Ad Accel, which is less wide than the Eclipsion, but the outsole is not as durable. For a snug fast durable shoe, the Fusion Rev 5 was the shoe to get, but I think Yonex has killed that line. It does have very nice heel cushioning, with the Power Cushion.
Also think about the Diadora Speed Fly, which is a tad narrower than the Torneo, and the toe area is narrower, it is more snug overall. It has the same Blushield midsole, and the shank performs as well as the Torneo 3. I returned the Torneo 3 because my feet did not feel as as comfortable, during the break in walk. In fact, like the Coco Delray, my feet were screaming to get out of the shoe, even with thick Thorlos socks on, which to me is a red flag from Barricades (except the '23) of yesteryears.
 
Next on my list: the Torneo 3. Out of the box I was concerned about the tight fit and the toe box that runs narrow toward the toes ('pointy") but no issues walking around for about an hour. They are soft, comfortable, good lacing, but definitely feel heavier (than the Mizuno WET2) on my feet (around the house). Curious to try them on the court!
Will keep updating as I go
 
dr325i said:
Next on my list: the Torneo 3. Out of the box I was concerned about the tight fit and the toe box that runs narrow toward the toes ('pointy") but no issues walking around for about an hour. They are soft, comfortable, good lacing, but definitely feel heavier (than the Mizuno WET2) on my feet (around the house). Curious to try them on the court!
Will keep updating as I go
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Excellent first 2-hour session in these. They do not feel heavy at all on my feet. Super comfortable and supportive and although I did not expect them to be fast, they do feel on the fast side due to excellent energy return of the soles. Will continue updating but very much impressed by these and they make my top 5 list:
1) Mizuno WET2
2) Lacoste AG-LT
3) Diadora Torneo 3
4) Asics GR9
5) Yonex Ecliption 5
 
dr325i said:
Excellent first 2-hour session in these. They do not feel heavy at all on my feet. Super comfortable and supportive and although I did not expect them to be fast, they do feel on the fast side due to excellent energy return of the soles. Will continue updating but very much impressed by these and they make my top 5 list:
1) Mizuno WET2
2) Lacoste AG-LT
3) Diadora Torneo 3
4) Asics GR9
5) Yonex Ecliption 5
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Hello chief! (Head rackets god) Which one would you say is best for clay? We almost only play on caly in Europe... had Vapor Xs loved them, Speed FF2 hated, vapor 11 hated, GR9 meh... looking for the first top three out of you list. Can't choose. Would be great to pick some old leftovers on sale haha.
 
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raskil said:
Hello chief! (Head rackets god) Which one would you say is best for clay? We almost only play on caly in Europe... had Vapor Xs loved them, Speed FF2 hated, vapor 11 hated, GR9 meh... looking for the first top three out of you list. Can't choose. Would be great to pick some old leftovers on sale haha.
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Can’t help you with clay buddy. I play exclusively on HC. However, last week I played in Belgrade on red clay in my (completely) worn Cages 4 and it was not pretty :)

I am not a clay player and don’t like clay at all
 
d-quik said:
It would probably be helpful to be specific as to what exactly you loved or hated about those. We are not psychics here
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I would say i liked low to the ground, speed and my foot wouldnt move even a little bit in the shoe because of great lockdown with laces. In FF2 my ankle was flying out of the shoe even with runners knot. With GR9 at the moment i feel like my ankle is moving a little (even that i dont like) and if I tie down 100% with runners knot.... the laces will just loosen to like 70% after 3 mins of game.
 
Aside from @Tranqville, any other fellow Achilles Tendonitis sufferers here, with Torneo 3 input, as to whether it was made better, the same or worse?

Currently, my best solution is the Asics Court FF 3 with Move Game Day Pro insoles (thank you @Farbio for the recommendation!), but just curious to see if anyone might think the Torneo 3's could one-up them, specifically for AT. Wouldn't be surprised if the answer is no, but just wanted to check.
 
Trip said:
Aside from @Tranqville, any other fellow Achilles Tendonitis sufferers here, with Torneo 3 input, as to whether it was made better, the same or worse?

Currently, my best solution is the Asics Court FF 3 with Move Game Day Pro insoles (thank you @Farbio for the recommendation!), but just curious to see if anyone might think the Torneo 3's could one-up them, specifically for AT. Wouldn't be surprised if the answer is no, but just wanted to check.
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FF3s (and FF Speed) absolutely killed my Achilles tendonitis.
I have zero issues with the Torneo 3, Mizuno WET, Lacoste AG-LT, Asics GR9, Yonex Ecliption 5...
 
Trip said:
Just to be clear, by "absolutely killed", do you mean the FF3's got rid of it, or made it worse?
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Sorry for the confusion - they made it worse. I tried everything to make them work because I liked the fit, stability and comfort but ended up not able to walk for a week and this happened 3 times, every time I gave them a shot.
 
dr325i said:
Sorry for the confusion - they made it worse. I tried everything to make them work because I liked the fit, stability and comfort but ended up not able to walk for a week and this happened 3 times, every time I gave them a shot.
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Got it. Thanks for that info, dr. Very interesting. I'm nearing end-of-life on my first pair of Court FF 3's and although noticeably better in almost all ways than the previous Wilson Rush Pro's, which I think heavily contributed to my achilles' issue in the first place, the FF3's haven't been the full help I was hoping they would be. I'm currently looking at both Diadora refreshes, the Torneo 3's and B.Icon 3's, mainly due to Foot Doctor Zach reviewing both so highly, especially the B.Icon's for having such excellent remarks on achilles support and heel lockdown.

Additional question: do you use a custom orthotic, or at least some kind of over-the-counter insole? I've used PowerStep Pinnacle Maxx and also Move Game Day Pro, and have enjoyed both, with the Move's probably being my favorite so far. Of course, nothing beats a custom, but I just haven't gone there quite yet. Thinking I may have to.
 
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