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Sadly, these are being sent back to TW.
The medium fit is not as generous as previous gen Torneos. Once the insole was replaced with my prescription orthotics, a majority of cushioning was sacrificed. I mimicked tennis movements on my hardwood floors and did not feel the same responsiveness as with the other gens either. They also felt hard as a rock.
I'll prob stock up on the Torneo 2 wides. If they decide to release a wide version of these, I might consider giving them another go tho.
FDZ recommends the Gel Challenger 15trying to find something to replace my GR9s
I did see that but quickly ruled it out because it doesn't come in a wide option and asics runs a bit narrow in their D widths. The GR9 2E wasn't even wide enough for me but it worked because of the TPU uppers that stretch quite a bit.FDZ recommends the Gel Challenger 15
Ahh I see. My bad, I didn't get that part.ruled it out because it doesn't come in a wide option
What size are you looking for?Can't find the Torneo 2 Wides anywhere in my size. I feel like they may be extinct. Is there any other shoe that fits like the Torneo Wides and has the same level of cushion? Ive been wearing this model for years.
I have tried the Torneo 3 and Lacoste ultra 23 clay model. Both are good for clay but the Torneo 3 has better grip. Adidas Barricade 13 clay is pretty good too. The Medvedev clay version sometimes is too tight in the heel for me. I have high arches and a wide forefoot. The Lacoste men’s runs 1/2 size small, but the women’s is essentially the same shoe and runs true to size.Hello chief! (Head rackets god) Which one would you say is best for clay? We almost only play on caly in Europe... had Vapor Xs loved them, Speed FF2 hated, vapor 11 hated, GR9 meh... looking for the first top three out of you list. Can't choose. Would be great to pick some old leftovers on sale haha.
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Sadly, these are being sent back to TW.
The medium fit is not as generous as previous gen Torneos. Once the insole was replaced with my prescription orthotics, a majority of cushioning was sacrificed. I mimicked tennis movements on my hardwood floors and did not feel the same responsiveness as with the other gens either. They also felt hard as a rock.
I'll prob stock up on the Torneo 2 wides. If they decide to release a wide version of these, I might consider giving them another go tho.
As you can see, I bought these as soon as they came out. I was a longtime user of the Torneo 1 and 2 wides. The standard width Torneo 3 lacked midsole and outsole thickness/cushioning that I found complimented my prescription orthotics.
I also did notice that the last was a little curvier than the previous generations.
The new Hypercourts look intriguing. How are you liking them? Curious how supportive they are on court.Thats a shame. That plus I can't fit into the regular Torneos equals a RIP to this incredible shoe for me. Trying out the Kswiss Hypercourt Express 3's.
The new Hypercourts look intriguing. How are you liking them? Curious how supportive they are on court.
The clay version is 80 bucks on mws, is this a bad idea for hardcourt? Besides the soles being softer, is the foam designed differently for clay?
Checking back in as I’d love to hear your experience with the HC 3’s. They check a lot of boxes for me but there isn’t much online in terms of how they perform or feel. I would have guessed this would be a more popular shoe.Ill let you all know once they show up and I get some time with them. When I get a new shoe that actully fits well, I tend to get happy about it and the weaknesses don't bother me for a while. Such is the case with the latest Bab SFX, a really nice shoe but the support and stability just isn't there.
I can say with the Diadora I never had any issues. Just incredible shoes that fit me well and felt fantastic. It's a real shame I can't wear them anymore.
They are not bad. Fit is fine, but not too cushioned or premium feeling. Good back up shoe for me.Checking back in as I’d love to hear your experience with the HC 3’s. They check a lot of boxes for me but there isn’t much online in terms of how they perform or feel. I would have guessed this would be a more popular shoe.
The Fly 4s ran a little short so I believe the recommendation was to size up a half size. I know I had to go to a 12 when I'm typically wear a 11.5 in previous diadora models including the fly 3sI must have posted in a different thread, but I recently ordered a pair of these in the clay version because I love the Diadora Fly 4's I'm currently using and thought that the Torneo 3's looked great. I ordered them in the same size as my Fly 4's but the fit was totally different for me. I was absolutely swimming in them. The TPU cap on top of the toe was also going to be a problem for me because I could tell it was going to dig into the joint at my big toe when my foot was really flexed. I wish these would have worked for me though - I thought they looked really good and I really want to use a clay model for the summer.
As mentioned, the Fly 3s are 5mm longer than the Fly 4s. That and the toe taper is also slightly narrower.I must have posted in a different thread, but I recently ordered a pair of these in the clay version because I love the Diadora Fly 4's I'm currently using and thought that the Torneo 3's looked great. I ordered them in the same size as my Fly 4's but the fit was totally different for me. I was absolutely swimming in them. The TPU cap on top of the toe was also going to be a problem for me because I could tell it was going to dig into the joint at my big toe when my foot was really flexed. I wish these would have worked for me though - I thought they looked really good and I really want to use a clay model for the summer.
The Fly 4s ran a little short so I believe the recommendation was to size up a half size. I know I had to go to a 12 when I'm typically wear a 11.5 in previous diadora models including the fly 3s
Already?Time for new shoes
working out great
What took you so long?I love it
My 9.5s fit pretty pretty pretty good.These definitely smaller than previous generations. Just tried these on in size 12 and it was too small.
BS4 was US11.5
BS5 was stuck between US11.5 and US12 so I couldn't pick (skipped this generation)
T1=T2= US12
T3=US12.5
Just keeps getting smaller and smaller
What happened is the shoe sizing chart just shrank by 5mm, without changing the US/UK sizing. So the shoes became shorter by 5mm. The Speed Fly 5 is a little tighter fitting in the MTP area because of the added TPU protection. Length is still the same as the 4.These definitely smaller than previous generations. Just tried these on in size 12 and it was too small.
BS4 was US11.5
BS5 was stuck between US11.5 and US12 so I couldn't pick (skipped this generation)
T1=T2= US12
T3=US12.5
Just keeps getting smaller and smaller
T1=T2=12US and were the same lengthsany shoe before '23 was 5mm longer when using US/UK sizing.
Yes but in actuality, the T1 and T2 were the same lengths in US12The sizing charts from Diadora showed the change in 5mm internal length fit from Torneo 1 to 2, Speed Fly 3 to 4, and B-Icon 1 to 2.
If you look at size charts, T3 is now 44.5 but still US11. The US11 is also foot length 285mm instead of 290mm with the T1. My experiences with Diadora Torneo 1-3, Speed Fly 3-5, and B-Icon 1-3 showed Diadora's size charts to be accurate. I moved up ½ size to follow the foot length. I like about 10mm of space between my toes and the front of the shoe. Do the foot sizing, or go to the physical store if possible. Just make sure there is a return policy if you order online.I am running out of the Torneo 1 that I stacked up on (had probably 7-8 pairs, now I have two left). I will probably just switch to Torneo 3. Given the discussion above, what is the conclusion on sizing? In Torneo 1, I use US 11 / EU 45.