Diamond Age has Begun

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Golden Age was the big 4.

Now until 2030 we have Diamond Age:
1. Five players form the core of the Diamond Age with elite potential and the ability to win all four slams; Tsitsipas (20), Auger-Alliasime (18), Shapovalov (19), Zverev (21), Coric (21). Coric likely to have more of a Murray/Wawrinka career. The rest high single digit slams, maybe more for one or two.

2. de Minaur (19), Rublev (20), and Tiafoe (20) all have slam potential and also very young. Throw in the big serving Medvedev and Khachanov as one or two hit wonders possibly.

3. The early part of the Diamond Age will be Big 3 (maybe 4 or 5) and Thiem contending for majors, but the younger players will be making deeper runs by 2020.

Its really quite a group of players and the earliest cross age clashes between Gold and Diamond will continue to be historic and fascinating encounters. ATP in great shape if you have a clue on what to expect. More support discussion to follow in next post so those without a clue may get some.
 
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Supporting scouting report on young players moving up through rankings. Its really quite a crop with Edmund turning 24 in January getting back on track after multiple Tonsil issues have derailed his year, but now has moved back up to 13 in the ATP race. With his serve and forehand plus the rest of his game, a slam can't be ruled out down the road. He's got an excellent chance of making top ten next year.

Jarry burst onto the scene this year and just turned 23. Big serve and ultimate aggression plus oddly a clay based game. 36 in ATP race and probably rising until Rio next year. Top 20 can't be ruled out by then if he takes to Australia like has to North American hard courts. Wins over Thiem on clay and Cilic plus the Rio SF and Sao Paulo Final.

Medvedev has really astounded of late including his dismissal of an in form Nishikori in the Tokyo final. The ultimate troll who loves to take down local heroes with the entire fan base against him. Red hot form and 18 in the ATP race. 3 tourney wins this year. The tall Medvedev is making great strides with his serve game so top 10 next year or very close seems in hand especially since a bad knee destroyed his 2018 grass results. Has a suddenly more efficient game yet also can grind with the best from the baseline. Auz Open should be favorable surface ongoing as well. Turns 23 in February.

Khachanov has had a banner year and has stunned me with his hard court results post Wimbledon despite facing some very tough opponents:
R32 Hard Stefanos Tsitsipas Karen Khachanov 6-4 7-6(8) H2H 2.10 - 1.69
40 / 2018 Beijing
R16 Hard Juan Martin Del Potro Karen Khachanov 6-4 7-6(4) H2H 1.33 - 3.25
38 / 2018 St. Petersburg
R16 I Hard Stan Wawrinka Karen Khachanov 7-6(10) 7-6(1) H2H 2.40 - 1.57
35 / 2018 US Open
R32 Hard Rafael Nadal Karen Khachanov 5-7 7-5 7-6(7) 7-6(3) H2H 1.10 - 7.50
32 / 2018 Cincinnati Masters
R16 Hard Marin Cilic Karen Khachanov 7-6(5) 3-6 6-4 H2H 1.50 - 2.50
32 / 2018 Canadian Masters
SF Hard Rafael Nadal Karen Khachanov 7-6(3) 6-4 H2H 1.20 - 4.80

Khach is on fire and turns 23 in May. 23 in ATP race and likely top 20 by year end. Can't be rules out for slams with his serve and ground game.

Chung also turns 23 in May and has floundered this year due to injuries, but slowly climbing back late this year. Its easy to be pessimistic, but still 24 in race and a good chance of making top 20 by year end. Showed his stuff at Auz Open so can't be ruled out from slam contention as his serve game inevitably improves over the coming years; just needs some healthy patches.

Coric is just 21 years old (22 come November) and with his penchant for beating Fed he could make a deep slam run soon. 11th in the ATP race and he's got the stats to win Roland Garros and the matchup with Thiem, Zverev, and Nadal. Some injury issues stopped his progress on clay. With his wins over Fed on grass and hard this year hard to rule him out from winning any of the slams. Possible multi-slam winner, but the biggest choker of the bunch and some injury issues.

Zverev turns 22 in April and obvious potential to win all four slams.

Rublev turns 21 this month and has been derailed by horrible fractured back injury just before clay season. Hard to be optimistic, but top 5 potential in the long run for sure. Still very young.

Tiafoe turns 21 in January and sits at 41 in the race with loads of long run potential. Could easily win some slams and highly regarded by McEnroe.

The cream of the crop:
Tsitsipas - just turned 20 in August and my favorite player of the bunch. Tremendous potential on clay and has delivered big time on all the other surfaces this year. 14 in the ATP race and should be top ten in short order. Has every facet of the game. A clay court version of Federer with a far, far superior backhand. Will have a good shot at winning all four majors in his career.
de Minaur - turns 20 in February and already 28th in ATP race. A lot of serve for his height and tremendous speed. Could easily be a slam winner. An odd game given the "Demon" has spent a lot of time, but currently doesn't have the power to thrive on clay (top tier counter puncher.) Hard to rule out from slams like his mentor, the even more diminutive Hewitt.
Shapovalov - turns 20 in April, slight blip this Summer due to serve overhaul, but his return game up nicely this year and serve game awesome for his age and height. 27th in ATP race and with his impressive, surprise clay season can't be ruled out from winning all four majors in his career.
Auger Alliasime - just turned 18 in August. A little bit far out with the stats and I'm not happy with his failure to make Milan this year after being in range last year. Has game to win slams on all surfaces, but because early and the slowdown in ranking progress I'd say top ten assured in the future.

What are the prospects for these players ongoing:
1. Edmund at near age 24 is pretty much done making rapid progress, but should slowly improve for years to come.
2. Jarry's clock is ticking at age 23 and we'll soon see what he can do on clay next year. Might have one more big speed boost to propel him up the rankings. Really Med, Khach, and Chung in the same boat with another performance jump possible in 2019.
3. Coric amazingly has two more years where he may have big performance jumps so his prospects are very, very bright.
4. Rublev and Tiafoe with three more years where big performance jumps likely.
5. Tsitsi 3.5 more years with big jumps possible
6. Four more years of rapid progress for Shapo and Demon.
7. 5.5 years for FAA

Loads and loads of talent on the horizon. Strong Era has begun with unprecedented potential through 2030.

We've had the big 4 for over ten years now. FAA, Tsitsi, Shapo, Zverev and Coric have potential to win all four slams. Coric has potential Murray caliber career possible. And the other 4 big 3 potential. Throw in de Minaur and Tiafoe plus Rublev with some slam potential and its quite a group not even accounting for the obvious threat of the Medvedev and Khachanov serve games. DIAMOND ERA INCOMING CONFIRMED.o_O
 
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Meles said:
What’s with your insulting tone – this is a friendly thread about NextGen’s road to their first slam title. It’s not about Djokovic and his beatdowns on Federer in slams.
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Chill. I actually admire your determination in propping up these naps.

I remember watching Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro break through in 2007/2008 and they were a million times better than any young player today with the exception of Zverev. He's the only player who has got "it". Once he figures out how to play in the Slams and gains more consistency (assuming he doesn't get injured a lot which he could due to his height) nobody is going to stop him. He's just better than anyone born between 1994 and 2000, that's a fact. I won't be here to watch it, though.

Thiem is the only player who I started appreciating more lately but he's 4 years older than Zverev and that's going to be a big disadvantage for him 2-3+ years from now.

Anyway, even if a lot of players are going to win Slams in the future that will only give you the illusion that they were as good as the top players 10-20 years back. Almost all of them would be tier 2 players in any other era.
 
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I remember similar write ups about the likes of Donald Young, Ryan Harrison, Bernie Tomic etc....What have they done? Sometimes a 'young gun' shows potential early on, but whether they deliver, that's a different matter altogether.
 
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Meles said:
Supporting scouting report on young players moving up through rankings. Its really quite a crop with Edmund turning 24 in January getting back on track after multiple Tonsil issues have derailed his year, but now has moved back up to 13 in the ATP race. With his serve and forehand plus the rest of his game, a slam can't be ruled out down the road. He's got an excellent chance of making top ten next year.

Jarry burst onto the scene this year and just turned 23. Big serve and ultimate aggression plus oddly a clay based game. 36 in ATP race and probably rising until Rio next year. Top 20 can't be ruled out by then if he takes to Australia like has to North American hard courts. Wins over Thiem on clay and Cilic plus the Rio SF and Sao Paulo Final.

Medvedev has really astounded of late including his dismissal of an in form Nishikori in the Tokyo final. The ultimate troll who loves to take down local heroes with the entire fan base against him. Red hot form and 18 in the ATP race. 3 tourney wins this year. The tall Medvedev is making great strides with his serve game so top 10 next year or very close seems in hand especially since a bad knee destroyed his 2018 grass results. Has a suddenly more efficient game yet also can grind with the best from the baseline. Auz Open should be favorable surface ongoing as well. Turns 23 in February.

Khachanov has had a banner year and has stunned me with his hard court results post Wimbledon despite facing some very tough opponents:
R32 Hard Stefanos Tsitsipas Karen Khachanov 6-4 7-6(8) H2H 2.10 - 1.69
40 / 2018 Beijing
R16 Hard Juan Martin Del Potro Karen Khachanov 6-4 7-6(4) H2H 1.33 - 3.25
38 / 2018 St. Petersburg
R16 I Hard Stan Wawrinka Karen Khachanov 7-6(10) 7-6(1) H2H 2.40 - 1.57
35 / 2018 US Open
R32 Hard Rafael Nadal Karen Khachanov 5-7 7-5 7-6(7) 7-6(3) H2H 1.10 - 7.50
32 / 2018 Cincinnati Masters
R16 Hard Marin Cilic Karen Khachanov 7-6(5) 3-6 6-4 H2H 1.50 - 2.50
32 / 2018 Canadian Masters
SF Hard Rafael Nadal Karen Khachanov 7-6(3) 6-4 H2H 1.20 - 4.80

Khach is on fire and turns 23 in May. 23 in ATP race and likely top 20 by year end. Can't be rules out for slams with his serve and ground game.

Chung also turns 23 in May and has floundered this year due to injuries, but slowly climbing back late this year. Its easy to be pessimistic, but still 24 in race and a good chance of making top 20 by year end. Showed his stuff at Auz Open so can't be ruled out from slam contention as his serve game inevitably improves over the coming years; just needs some healthy patches.

Coric is just 21 years old (22 come November) and with his penchant for beating Fed he could make a deep slam run soon. 11th in the ATP race and he's got the stats to win Roland Garros and the matchup with Thiem, Zverev, and Nadal. Some injury issues stopped his progress on clay. With his wins over Fed on grass and hard this year hard to rule him out from winning any of the slams. Possible multi-slam winner, but the biggest choker of the bunch and some injury issues.

Zverev turns 22 in April and obvious potential to win all four slams.

Rublev turns 21 this month and has been derailed by horrible fractured back injury just before clay season. Hard to be optimistic, but top 5 potential in the long run for sure. Still very young.

Tiafoe turns 21 in January and sits at 41 in the race with loads of long run potential. Could easily win some slams and highly regarded by McEnroe.

The cream of the crop:
Tsitsipas - just turned 20 in August and my favorite player of the bunch. Tremendous potential on clay and has delivered big time on all the other surfaces this year. 14 in the ATP race and should be top ten in short order. Has every facet of the game. A clay court version of Federer with a far, far superior backhand. Will have a good shot at winning all four majors in his career.
de Minaur - turns 20 in February and already 28th in ATP race. A lot of serve for his height and tremendous speed. Could easily be a slam winner. An odd game given the "Demon" has spent a lot of time, but currently doesn't have the power to thrive on clay (top tier counter puncher.) Hard to rule out from slams like his mentor, the even more diminutive Hewitt.
Shapovalov - turns 20 in April, slight blip this Summer due to serve overhaul, but his return game up nicely this year and serve game awesome for his age and height. 27th in ATP race and with his impressive, surprise clay season can't be ruled out from winning all four majors in his career.
Auger Alliasime - just turned 18 in August. A little bit far out with the stats and I'm not happy with his failure to make Milan this year after being in range last year. Has game to win slams on all surfaces, but because early and the slowdown in ranking progress I'd say top ten assured in the future.

What are the prospects for these players ongoing:
1. Edmund at near age 24 is pretty much done making rapid progress, but should slowly improve for years to come.
2. Jarry's clock is ticking at age 23 and we'll soon see what he can do on clay next year. Might have one more big speed boost to propel him up the rankings. Really Med, Khach, and Chung in the same boat with another performance jump possible in 2019.
3. Coric amazingly has two more years where he may have big performance jumps so his prospects are very, very bright.
4. Rublev and Tiafoe with three more years where big performance jumps likely.
5. Tsitsi 3.5 more years with big jumps possible
6. Four more years of rapid progress for Shapo and Demon.
7. 5.5 years for FAA

Loads and loads of talent on the horizon. Strong Era has begun with unprecedented potential through 2030.

We've had the big 4 for over ten years now. FAA, Tsitsi, Shapo, Zverev and Coric have potential to win all four slams. Coric has potential Murray caliber career possible. And the other 4 big 3 potential. Throw in de Minaur and Tiafoe plus Rublev with some slam potential and its quite a group not even accounting for the obvious threat of the Medvedev and Khachanov serve games. DIAMOND ERA INCOMING CONFIRMED.o_O
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I think you're a little speculative on Auger at this stage. What has he really done so far? Sure, his strokes are pretty, and he is young, but so are a lot of other guys...
 
Zara said:
Crystal children I say!

I am with you, Meles!
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Its just a given all of these players will improve a lot over the next couple years. I'm really looking forward to 2019 clay season. Sure Nadal and now Djokovic will be back, but its just not a favorable surface for the elderly. Thiem will be in there as well, but I think clay will be the first battle between Diamond Age and Golden Age.

Coric has a great head to head with Thiem, Nadal, and Zverev and my stats analysis shows a ton of hidden potential on clay escpecially if Coric can return like in Miami. Even Rublev may be good. Tsitsipas performed well beyond his years last year on clay. That's six or seven RG and potential RG winners rolling around in the mud.:p Perhaps if Federe overcomes his fear of strong era and comes out of his basement to actually play a point on clay, lol...
 
IowaGuy said:
I think you're a little speculative on Auger at this stage. What has he really done so far? Sure, his strokes are pretty, and he is young, but so are a lot of other guys...
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Fair enough and he's decidedly floundering just a bit in my mind this year so the rankings projections graph maybe not so good....
ATGNextGenRankingGraph.png

FAA was the leader in this pack, but even with heart issues still tracking awfully well. All these rocketing up ranking like ATG.
 
I highly doubt we'll have any double-digit winners in the next decade. I can see one or two players getting to 7 or 8, Zverev has the game to do it, and Shapovalov/Tsitsipas have the raw talent to do it; if they can hit their stride soon like Federer did at 21 or so, they can be ATG's.
 
King No1e said:
I highly doubt we'll have any double-digit winners in the next decade. I can see one or two players getting to 7 or 8, Zverev has the game to do it, and Shapovalov/Tsitsipas have the raw talent to do it; if they can hit their stride soon like Federer did at 21 or so, they can be ATG's.
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Actually I can see one of them hitting double-digits, the one that sucks the least. It's going to be a sad generation, if even one of them decides to take it seriously he'll be King **** of Turd Island.
 
tennis_pro said:
Chill. I actually admire your determination in propping up these naps.

I remember watching Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro break through in 2007/2008 and they were a million times better than any young player today with the exception of Zverev. He's the only player who has got "it". Once he figures out how to play in the Slams and gains more consistency (assuming he doesn't get injured a lot which he could due to his height) nobody is going to stop him. He's just better than anyone born between 1994 and 2000, that's a fact. I won't be here to watch it, though.

Thiem is the only player who I started appreciating more lately but he's 4 years older than Zverev and that's going to be a big disadvantage for him 2-3+ years from now.

Anyway, even if a lot of players are going to win Slams in the future that will only give you the illusion that they were as good as the top players 10-20 years back. Almost all of them would be tier 2 players in any other era.
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SoBad on my part, but hoping to tickle some more responses.;)

Well Thiem is just a bonus player whose window is tightening up a lot.

I see no reason to downgrade Shapovalov or Tsitsiapas. The group I identified in the 2nd post are all basically top 40 right now and rising. Things are getting a bit easier right now as the geriatric pigeons are fading really, really fast leaving not much resistance for next year. But Zverev easily has had it much, much harder than Djokovic or Murray who really only had to contend with Federer and young Nadal on grass and clay. 2006 was really weak and it only go better after this because of wave of new players. Djokoray were wolves among the sheep at a young age. I saw and loved Djokoray, but its hard to judge level with eye test when opponents are not the same. Also, I'm not predicting double digit slams for any of these players though one might do it just by the math of 40 slams from 2021-2030. I'd say that Zverev, Tsitsipas, and Shapo will exceed Wilander, Edberg, and Becker, but a notch below Big 3. I'm happy with that and Tsitsi/Shapo are incredible players to watch.
 
Zara said:
Meles, don't pay attention to the haters! Continue to do the good work, my man. They already hate some of these players and not because they haven't done anything but because they have done something.
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That is exactly not the reason.

Why do you talk like a man btw
 
Ann said:
Actually I can see one of them hitting double-digits, the one that sucks the least. It's going to be a sad generation, if even one of them decides to take it seriously he'll be King **** of Turd Island.
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Nobody between Borg and Sampras could hit double digits. And this era was strong enough to have guys like McEnroe, Lendl, Wilander, Edberg, Courier, and Becker. You really think these mugs today could do better than Lendl?
 
Ann said:
Actually I can see one of them hitting double-digits, the one that sucks the least. It's going to be a sad generation, if even one of them decides to take it seriously he'll be King **** of Turd Island.
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Almost as bad as 2003-2007 free-for-all vacuum
 
Ann said:
Actually I can see one of them hitting double-digits, the one that sucks the least. It's going to be a sad generation, if even one of them decides to take it seriously he'll be King **** of Turd Island.
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LOL.
 
Meles said:
Its just a given all of these players will improve a lot over the next couple years. I'm really looking forward to 2019 clay season. Sure Nadal and now Djokovic will be back, but its just not a favorable surface for the elderly. Thiem will be in there as well, but I think clay will be the first battle between Diamond Age and Golden Age.

Coric has a great head to head with Thiem, Nadal, and Zverev and my stats analysis shows a ton of hidden potential on clay escpecially if Coric can return like in Miami. Even Rublev may be good. Tsitsipas performed well beyond his years last year on clay. That's six or seven RG and potential RG winners rolling around in the mud.:p Perhaps if Federe overcomes his fear of strong era and comes out of his basement to actually play a point on clay, lol...
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Of course, they will improve in the next couple of years or so. I just can't wait to see all these beautiful players in full force. Nadal has a monopoly as far as RG is concerned but it has to come to an end and we'll see how things go with Djokovic at AO. I do think it will take a couple of more years for them to fully come into their own terms.
 
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King No1e said:
Nobody between Borg and Sampras could hit double digits. And this era was strong enough to have guys like McEnroe, Lendl, Wilander, Edberg, Courier, and Becker. You really think these mugs today could do better than Lendl?
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The Wool Pants realm definitely covers wood racquets, cold war non-competition, and all that nonsense. I would even venture to say that the Sampras PS85 is a wool pants relic, which makes his feat all the more remarkable.
 
Ann said:
Actually I can see one of them hitting double-digits, the one that sucks the least. It's going to be a sad generation, if even one of them decides to take it seriously he'll be King **** of Turd Island.
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A bit harsh! The young players (born 1998 or after) seem a pretty strong group. 3 players ranked 31 or above and at least 2 of them (Tsitsipas and De Minaur) very wholehearted players.
 
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SO how many Slams does that group collectively win? ~30?
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Lets say 28 by the end of 2030 for Tsitsipas, Shapo, Zverev, and FAA. FAA is very speculative because he's just hardly peaked out on the main tour.
 
Some of those names may falter and be replaced with other names from the same generation, but the current 18-22 gen will definitely win a lot. There are multiple bollox generations "ahead" of them, so when the Trifecta retire it's going to be easy pickings in a diluted field. The only thing that could stop them winning a huge heap of Slams is a 14-17 generation on the horizon with the strength of the Djokovic/Nadal/Murray generation - highly unlikely!
 
Meles said:
SoBad on my part, but hoping to tickle some more responses.;)

Well Thiem is just a bonus player whose window is tightening up a lot.

I see no reason to downgrade Shapovalov or Tsitsiapas. The group I identified in the 2nd post are all basically top 40 right now and rising. Things are getting a bit easier right now as the geriatric pigeons are fading really, really fast leaving not much resistance for next year. But Zverev easily has had it much, much harder than Djokovic or Murray who really only had to contend with Federer and young Nadal on grass and clay. 2006 was really weak and it only go better after this because of wave of new players. Djokoray were wolves among the sheep at a young age. I saw and loved Djokoray, but its hard to judge level with eye test when opponents are not the same. Also, I'm not predicting double digit slams for any of these players though one might do it just by the math of 40 slams from 2021-2030. I'd say that Zverev, Tsitsipas, and Shapo will exceed Wilander, Edberg, and Becker, but a notch below Big 3. I'm happy with that and Tsitsi/Shapo are incredible players to watch.
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I don't see how it's that much harder for the young players to break through today than it was for Djokovic, Murray or Del Potro.

Federer is so old that it's a miracle that he's still playing. Nadal gets injured more and more often and he barely matters outside of clay. Djokovic just came back 3 months ago. Besides, the last time all 3 played well at the same time was probably early to mid 2014. Then Nadal got injured/played like crap until the end of 2016, Federer got injured and played like crap throughout 2016 and Djokovic got injured/played like crap in 2017 to mid 2018. Now Fed's playing like crap and Nadal is injured so obviously Djokovic is winning eveything (DUH, like any other result was possible)

Sorry Meles I just don't see anything special in these young players and believe me I've followed this sport very closely since 2006/2007. Zverev is the only player I feel would matter back in the day. He'll figure it out in the Slams. I had high hopes for Kyrgios but he's just wasting his talent. As for the rest - maybe they will mature later on but it's not like they are 17. They are 19/20+ years old and they should be having a lot better results at this stage if you think they are 4/5+ Slam material. I honestly think they aren't even better than tier 2 players like Berdych, Nishikori or Ferrer. Someone like prime Tsonga would love to play today and bag a Slam or two. Instead it's the same old for 15 years.
 
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Zara said:
Of course, they will improve in the next couple of years or so. I just can't wait to see all these beautiful players in full force. Nadal has a monopoly as far as RG is concerned but it has come to an end and we'll see how things go with Djokovic at AO. I do think it will take a couple of more years for them to fully come into their own terms.
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2019 Thiem, Zverev, and Coric probably with the only real hope, but Tsitsipas seems to have some pretty good efficiency and staying power already.

I'd say Wimbledon will go to an older player for sure. Something could happen at RG easily enough as only Nadal really can hold back the wave and he's getting older and older on a surface that does not favor older players. US Open is the next logical place for breakthrough.
 
Meles said:
Lets say 28 by the end of 2030 for Tsitsipas, Shapo, Zverev, and FAA. FAA is very speculative because he's just hardly peaked out on the main tour.
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Let's not put a number on it and just let them unleash. The best thing about these players is that they got to play with some of the legends and that will help them set their own goals. Who knows who's thinking what and what's unfolding. And time is on their side. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic will all come to an end in a couple of years and the young generation will take over. There's just no other way because the older generation won't be able to play forever.

 
Zara said:
Of course, they will improve in the next couple of years or so. I just can't wait to see all these beautiful players in full force. Nadal has a monopoly as far as RG is concerned but it has to come to an end and we'll see how things go with Djokovic at AO. I do think it will take a couple of more years for them to fully come into their own terms.
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And it will magically coincide with Federer, Nadal, Djokovic all being done. Why can't they do anything now? They're not 16 years old.

Djokovic, Nadal are firmly in their 30s, Federer is 57. What is the problem here? Even Djokovic who has played well in the last 3 months would be butchered by his own version from 2011 or 2015. Imagine Tsitsiparas or Khachanov against peak Federer or peak Nadal. My God.

And the funny part is that they are not losing to the big 3 but to other mugs.
 
tennis_pro said:
And it will magically coincide with Federer, Nadal, Djokovic all being done. Why can't they do anything now? They're not 16 years old.

Djokovic, Nadal are firmly in their 30s, Federer is 57. What is the problem here?

And the funny part is not that they are losing to the big 3 but that they are losing to other mugs.
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It's not about Federer or Nadal or Djokovic. ATP is brutal. It takes 5 years (at least) for a young player to come into their own term. It's even harder when the field is crowded with some players who aren't done winning slams yet and their experience and status always help them win slams far more than those who are still very new to the tour. This should be common knowledge.
 
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