Diary of a Racketaholic

Hnefi

Semi-Pro
I brought out the lead tape this morning to bring my EZ98 up to 331g, 32.6cm, 330SW. It's basically exactly the EZ98 tour spec, just a bit more HL at 6pts instead of 4. This is probably explained by the fact that mine was an insanely under-spec lightweight to begin with. Really looking forward to this test because these specs are quite close to my old Xi98s in terms of SW but like 25g lighter in static. From what I can see, its quite similar to what many pros use for their pro stock Heads from what I've seen - pretty similar static and SW.

Right now I have all the lead at 12 to keep the static weight down, so I'm looking forward to see how this setup works. Have a hit scheduled tomorrow AM and will probably try to spend at least 5h with this setup before I have a verdict. Might be just a touch too polarized and I end up moving some lead to 3/9 but we'll see.
 
Same here! I have four FCs now. Two at 344SW and 2 at 338. Man, for me the magic begins at 342SW. It also swings easier and I don't have to force the swing at all. It is so easy to play with.
I actually felt sad and sorry when @SupahMan5000 said he never had this "extension of the arm" feeling. Man, that is the reason I am playing tennis, haha. I love this FC as it is exactly that! But maybe you do not get that with Pure Aeros and rackets like that. I mean, when I play these "power" frames, the ball just kicks off a lot faster and higher than I would expect. I could play with these just fine and be successful, but the feeling that you swing, hold the ball on the racket face and let it go exactly when and where you want it, that's it right there for me. That thick long ball hold and even blindfolded, you know exactly where it is going. But even though I play with a lot of spin on clay, first and foremost I use placement and through the court action. With my Prestige pro stocks, I have the feeling I can pick between 10x10cm squares on the other side of the net and just put those balls there. Not with the retail Prestige Tour, sadly. The 344SW on my FCs is giving the balls some wicked energy as well, even at my 30% percent strokes, which I love so much. Just easy swings and deep and heavy balls.
With those more "power" all I get is a higher, unreliable launch and I have to force my swings to keep the balls in play.
But if you always played with power frames, I think you will love exactly that. It is just not the extension of the arm feel. But if you are used to the kind of action you get on the ball, it can be very addictive, I believe. When I play with my PT57A, I have the feeling I get even more spin and action, SW is in the 350s, but the launch is much lower. I will need time to adjust, so in late September I will play more with it.
Sorry for being lame, but what’s a FC?
 

Richard Pioline

Hall of Fame
Nickname for the TGT293.1 extended, named in honour of Frederico Cerundolo.
Not quite apt as this is a 16x19 IG prestige mold and Cerundolo is playing with an extended 18x20 PT57A but close enough.
Yeah! I thought he was playing with PT57A 16x19. But yeah. It is 350g strung and is 345sw. Not as beasty as FCs though.
And I think his name is Francisco, but that is as close as my racket naming, haha!
 

veelium

Hall of Fame
Yeah! I thought he was playing with PT57A 16x19. But yeah. It is 350g strung and is 345sw. Not as beasty as FCs though.
And I think his name is Francisco, but that is as close as my racket naming, haha!
Haha damn you are right, not sure how I got Frederico...
I also thought he was playing with an 16x19 at first, might have even posted that in here
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
Here's the footage I promised to no one in particular. I'm the guy in all white. First set: lost 4/6 using the Yamaha 97FX. Second set: won 6/4 using Adidas Barricade.
Sure maybe I've played better, but that 6:43 return winner felt great.
Great depth on returning his chump ball serve. That's not as easy to do consistently as you are making it look. It's easy to overcook those. Good vid overall
 

naturalexponent

Hall of Fame
Noticed something kind of cool while spending too much time on the auction site. Looks like the '21 VCP and the Percept took their design inspiration from the Dunlop Max 200g Pro and the Dunlop Max 200g "teal" (which I understand might be the Pro II?):

gdPHSMhm.jpg

Y8cXhCGm.jpg


Anyway, hit with the 97D, 97H, and the 100D this morning and I'm Yonex fanboying once again. Spent some time with each warming up, hitting groundies, practicing serves, doing some point play.

I echo a lot of what has been said thus far in that the 97D and the 97H are pretty dang similar to their VCP counterparts. Feel-wise, one of my complaints (significant with respect to the D and minor with respect to the H) was that the feel of the VCP was a bit grainy or gritty - don't know how else to explain the feeling, and that's largely not there anymore. I suspect with the VCP 97H it was less of an issue because of the more open string pattern and the higher mass. The feel is nice and solid but still fairly muted.

100D: Initially when just hitting groundies, my favorite was the 100D. You kind of forget it's there in your hand. It swings naturally and it's easy to get that full extension on a forehand to hit through the ball. It's forgiving in a way a lot of these modern 100 square inch players racquets are, in that you swing hard, put rotation on the ball, and get clean-ish contact, and your ball will most likely find the court. I was playing with one of my favorite hitting partners, who is a big first serve, first strike kind of players with a consistent rally ball. The 100D keeps up with the pace, doesn't make defense too difficult, and facilitates turning defense into offense if you're able to find that extra split second when pulled out wide to plant yourself and take a big crack at the ball. It was on serve that I started to struggle a bit, as I just couldn't get my timing right, and everything seemed to go long, and I struggled to bring the ball down into the court. I think on serves I just prefer something with more mass in the handle. I also agree with @SupahMan5000 's observation about balls tending to float if I just get my racquet on the ball for a chip or slice unless I really commit to the follow through.

97H: The weight of the H is noticeable after playing with the 100D and the 97D even. At first it was hard to get that same extension through the ball as I was hitting later, but once I reminded myself, this was my second favorite on groundies and favorite for returns. If you get prepared early and relax, there's a good amount of action on the weight on the ball (per my partner). As with the VCP, what would keep me from committing to this is that I just can't seem to find a rhythm on serve. This one actually had the best action and movement on the ball on the rare occasion I hit one well, but I think the weight is just too much for me to do anything consistently with it. Overheads were going long as well because I couldn't get the head around fast enough.

97D: I really hated this thing off the ground at first. It's fine when you're prepped but unlike the 100D and the 97H I feel like I have to be extra intentional about shaping the ball. But once we started point play, this one was the most consistent on the serve (mostly flat) and gave me the most confidence in my movement around the court, whether it was hitting groundies or approaching the net -- weirdly I found myself rushing the net a lot, probably because the balance of this felt the best for reaction shots + had the stringbed trust for touch shots and bleeding pace. It made me want to work with the racquet and just figure out the groundstroke kinks. This is almost exactly how I felt about the VCP 97D, except as noted before, I just couldn't gel with the feel of that racquet. Not an issue with this one!

For all of these, key thing over the VC95 for me is that they all felt so rock solid on return, whether it's taking a full swing, blocking/chipping something back, or just trying to get your racquet on the ball. Seems like I'll grabbing the D's to spend a bit more time with them. Oh and I think for the same reason re solidness and stability, I feel really confident about taking the ball early/on the rise with these.
 

SupahMan5000

Hall of Fame
Noticed something kind of cool while spending too much time on the auction site. Looks like the '21 VCP and the Percept took their design inspiration from the Dunlop Max 200g Pro and the Dunlop Max 200g "teal" (which I understand might be the Pro II?):

gdPHSMhm.jpg

Y8cXhCGm.jpg


Anyway, hit with the 97D, 97H, and the 100D this morning and I'm Yonex fanboying once again. Spent some time with each warming up, hitting groundies, practicing serves, doing some point play.

I echo a lot of what has been said thus far in that the 97D and the 97H are pretty dang similar to their VCP counterparts. Feel-wise, one of my complaints (significant with respect to the D and minor with respect to the H) was that the feel of the VCP was a bit grainy or gritty - don't know how else to explain the feeling, and that's largely not there anymore. I suspect with the VCP 97H it was less of an issue because of the more open string pattern and the higher mass. The feel is nice and solid but still fairly muted.

100D: Initially when just hitting groundies, my favorite was the 100D. You kind of forget it's there in your hand. It swings naturally and it's easy to get that full extension on a forehand to hit through the ball. It's forgiving in a way a lot of these modern 100 square inch players racquets are, in that you swing hard, put rotation on the ball, and get clean-ish contact, and your ball will most likely find the court. I was playing with one of my favorite hitting partners, who is a big first serve, first strike kind of players with a consistent rally ball. The 100D keeps up with the pace, doesn't make defense too difficult, and facilitates turning defense into offense if you're able to find that extra split second when pulled out wide to plant yourself and take a big crack at the ball. It was on serve that I started to struggle a bit, as I just couldn't get my timing right, and everything seemed to go long, and I struggled to bring the ball down into the court. I think on serves I just prefer something with more mass in the handle. I also agree with @SupahMan5000 's observation about balls tending to float if I just get my racquet on the ball for a chip or slice unless I really commit to the follow through.

97H: The weight of the H is noticeable after playing with the 100D and the 97D even. At first it was hard to get that same extension through the ball as I was hitting later, but once I reminded myself, this was my second favorite on groundies and favorite for returns. If you get prepared early and relax, there's a good amount of action on the weight on the ball (per my partner). As with the VCP, what would keep me from committing to this is that I just can't seem to find a rhythm on serve. This one actually had the best action and movement on the ball on the rare occasion I hit one well, but I think the weight is just too much for me to do anything consistently with it. Overheads were going long as well because I couldn't get the head around fast enough.

97D: I really hated this thing off the ground at first. It's fine when you're prepped but unlike the 100D and the 97H I feel like I have to be extra intentional about shaping the ball. But once we started point play, this one was the most consistent on the serve (mostly flat) and gave me the most confidence in my movement around the court, whether it was hitting groundies or approaching the net -- weirdly I found myself rushing the net a lot, probably because the balance of this felt the best for reaction shots + had the stringbed trust for touch shots and bleeding pace. It made me want to work with the racquet and just figure out the groundstroke kinks. This is almost exactly how I felt about the VCP 97D, except as noted before, I just couldn't gel with the feel of that racquet. Not an issue with this one!

For all of these, key thing over the VC95 for me is that they all felt so rock solid on return, whether it's taking a full swing, blocking/chipping something back, or just trying to get your racquet on the ball. Seems like I'll grabbing the D's to spend a bit more time with them. Oh and I think for the same reason re solidness and stability, I feel really confident about taking the ball early/on the rise with these.
awesome observation on the inspiration for the paintjobs super cool

also spot on with the feel of the VCP 97D in comparison to the Percept 97D. I was trying to figure out what I was feeling with the vibrations but it just seemed brassy esque. the percept feels like they ran the VCP through a mesh strainer and all of those vibrations are tuned out. not to be confused with MUTED!! I dont think they made it more muted it just feels more solid on impact
 

ryushen21

Legend
am I crazy??? like have I lost my damn mind? I go into my local tennis shop today, because I hear they recently got a Wilson Baiardo tune. so I'm stoked cause for the first time in my life I can have my swingweights measured. I have customized my rackets the same, and done what i can to match balance and weight, but I know that that's only half the story in matching racquets. The tech dude helping me seems super confident, but also I could tell it was the first time he had ever touched the machine so im a little sus on the results that he gave me.

First of all, I measure the static weights using my kitchen scale at home. Now i'm not saying that It's perfect, but the wilson was clocking my rackets at 10 GRAMS BELOW the kitchen scale. Every racket that I had him weigh.... Red flag #1.
So I'm like oh well let me just get my swing weights before I start to lose my mind, and here are my results. Keep in mind, each of my vc95's have leather grips and 6 grams of lead for a total weight of 348. I am using Yonex Poly Tour Rev 1.20 in all three rackets. (some with a little extra to match weights, but less than a gram. Yonex QC FTW)
VC95#1:328
VC95#2:329
VC95#3:324
k6.1 95:323

now the vcore's seem believable, but I got 6g at 3/9! does that really not effect SW that much? what has me a little intrigued is that my 6.1 95 clocks in at 323. TW says 340. between the static weight differences and this insanely low SW on the 6.1... am I just an idiot or is this dude leading me astray?
Remember that the 6.1 was subject to Wilson QC. I'm not surprised to see you got one under spec.
 

Kozzy

Hall of Fame
Noticed something kind of cool while spending too much time on the auction site. Looks like the '21 VCP and the Percept took their design inspiration from the Dunlop Max 200g Pro and the Dunlop Max 200g "teal" (which I understand might be the Pro II?):
Love those Max 200Gs. Early in my holic'ing days I snagged a mint condition 200g that was glossy and had all the strange dots on it. For some reason I will never understand, I sold it - maybe the one racquet I really regret ever selling. I still have a couple beat up 200gs that are fine for hitting every now and then, but that one was a beaut. Could probably get one again, of course, but I have too many racquets that just sit around as it is.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I thought the FC was a PT57A because I am pretty sure he uses that. But if it's the TGT 293.1, thats the same frame I have and plan to extend to .25 at some point when I change the grip size on it.

Awesome racquet for sure, I really enjoy using mine. I prefer 100 sqi over 95 for my game, but I still am going to work that racquet in now and then because it's really cool.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
My interest was over with your original experience with the WOxtd. Now you’re sucking me back in, wondering what I’m missing out on:) The weather here has finally dropped enough where I could go back to Vs gut/hawk rough string preference. How do you think it would play in the WOxtd? SupahMan5000, Power Player & you have my curiosity running!

You can string about anything in the WO I suspect. It will boil down to what feel you want. I am cycling through strings just because I have a ton here. DF works well. I typically don't like 18x20s because the trajectory is lower than I prefer, but with the WO thats not a problem. So the benefits of 18x20 come into play - better ball feel, control and you can string lower and get longer string life. So I think in that case it is a pretty versatile frame where you can try about any setup you want. Another cool setup if I had multiples would be a gut main/syn gut cross. Obviously going to be less spin than full poly but I suspect that could be an awesome feel setup.

Gut syngut or even multi main is a GOAT setup also for any frames you have laying around that you don't use a lot, but when you want to have a hit you want some good feel.
 
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RF_PRO_STAFF

Professional
Percept 97 is here. 310.4g - 30.95cm - 280.5 SW. I'm 1.20 Hawk Touchin' it up, replacing the stock grip. Probably adding a touch of lead at 12, otherwise swingweight will be too low for a frame like this. Especially with a 1.20 string.
 

gino

Legend
Noticed something kind of cool while spending too much time on the auction site. Looks like the '21 VCP and the Percept took their design inspiration from the Dunlop Max 200g Pro and the Dunlop Max 200g "teal" (which I understand might be the Pro II?):

gdPHSMhm.jpg

Y8cXhCGm.jpg


Anyway, hit with the 97D, 97H, and the 100D this morning and I'm Yonex fanboying once again. Spent some time with each warming up, hitting groundies, practicing serves, doing some point play.

I echo a lot of what has been said thus far in that the 97D and the 97H are pretty dang similar to their VCP counterparts. Feel-wise, one of my complaints (significant with respect to the D and minor with respect to the H) was that the feel of the VCP was a bit grainy or gritty - don't know how else to explain the feeling, and that's largely not there anymore. I suspect with the VCP 97H it was less of an issue because of the more open string pattern and the higher mass. The feel is nice and solid but still fairly muted.

100D: Initially when just hitting groundies, my favorite was the 100D. You kind of forget it's there in your hand. It swings naturally and it's easy to get that full extension on a forehand to hit through the ball. It's forgiving in a way a lot of these modern 100 square inch players racquets are, in that you swing hard, put rotation on the ball, and get clean-ish contact, and your ball will most likely find the court. I was playing with one of my favorite hitting partners, who is a big first serve, first strike kind of players with a consistent rally ball. The 100D keeps up with the pace, doesn't make defense too difficult, and facilitates turning defense into offense if you're able to find that extra split second when pulled out wide to plant yourself and take a big crack at the ball. It was on serve that I started to struggle a bit, as I just couldn't get my timing right, and everything seemed to go long, and I struggled to bring the ball down into the court. I think on serves I just prefer something with more mass in the handle. I also agree with @SupahMan5000 's observation about balls tending to float if I just get my racquet on the ball for a chip or slice unless I really commit to the follow through.

97H: The weight of the H is noticeable after playing with the 100D and the 97D even. At first it was hard to get that same extension through the ball as I was hitting later, but once I reminded myself, this was my second favorite on groundies and favorite for returns. If you get prepared early and relax, there's a good amount of action on the weight on the ball (per my partner). As with the VCP, what would keep me from committing to this is that I just can't seem to find a rhythm on serve. This one actually had the best action and movement on the ball on the rare occasion I hit one well, but I think the weight is just too much for me to do anything consistently with it. Overheads were going long as well because I couldn't get the head around fast enough.

97D: I really hated this thing off the ground at first. It's fine when you're prepped but unlike the 100D and the 97H I feel like I have to be extra intentional about shaping the ball. But once we started point play, this one was the most consistent on the serve (mostly flat) and gave me the most confidence in my movement around the court, whether it was hitting groundies or approaching the net -- weirdly I found myself rushing the net a lot, probably because the balance of this felt the best for reaction shots + had the stringbed trust for touch shots and bleeding pace. It made me want to work with the racquet and just figure out the groundstroke kinks. This is almost exactly how I felt about the VCP 97D, except as noted before, I just couldn't gel with the feel of that racquet. Not an issue with this one!

For all of these, key thing over the VC95 for me is that they all felt so rock solid on return, whether it's taking a full swing, blocking/chipping something back, or just trying to get your racquet on the ball. Seems like I'll grabbing the D's to spend a bit more time with them. Oh and I think for the same reason re solidness and stability, I feel really confident about taking the ball early/on the rise with these.
Great write up - seems as promised !! Also love the PJ detective work hah! So cool
 

Curtennis

Hall of Fame
Maybe it’s just my racquetholicism speaking but I’m thinking about doing something way out of left field.

SW102.

Never even played an extended for more than 5 minutes and that was just a 27.5.


Couple thoughts…

When push comes to shove I win most of my matches with a serve and volley play style. I get so much anxiety hitting ground strokes that I just clam up in “high” pressure matches.
Yet for whatever reason I don’t get anxiety on serve all that much.
I’d be willing to sacrifice more from my groundies if it gives me an edge on serve.

additionally that 1” extra reach and 102” head might help me catch one or two passing shots or lobs that would otherwise burn me on a suboptimal net approach.

Lastly, and this one might make zero sense, my forehand form is pretty ugly and I hit with my elbow close to my body. It just works for me. So if I’m going to be hitting with this form no matter what, maybe the extra inch of length will help me get the leverage a little further away from my body that I just don’t do with my natural swing. I’d imagine the further the racquet head is from my body the more potential my forehand would have.

Another pro for the SW102 that other xtd racquets don’t have is it’s an 18x19. Most seem to be 16x19. I don’t need the higher launch angle.

If anyone bothers to read this, thoughts? Do I just need to get good and stop worrying about this?
 

SupahMan5000

Hall of Fame
Maybe it’s just my racquetholicism speaking but I’m thinking about doing something way out of left field.

SW102.

Never even played an extended for more than 5 minutes and that was just a 27.5.


Couple thoughts…

When push comes to shove I win most of my matches with a serve and volley play style. I get so much anxiety hitting ground strokes that I just clam up in “high” pressure matches.
Yet for whatever reason I don’t get anxiety on serve all that much.
I’d be willing to sacrifice more from my groundies if it gives me an edge on serve.

additionally that 1” extra reach and 102” head might help me catch one or two passing shots or lobs that would otherwise burn me on a suboptimal net approach.

Lastly, and this one might make zero sense, my forehand form is pretty ugly and I hit with my elbow close to my body. It just works for me. So if I’m going to be hitting with this form no matter what, maybe the extra inch of length will help me get the leverage a little further away from my body that I just don’t do with my natural swing. I’d imagine the further the racquet head is from my body the more potential my forehand would have.

Another pro for the SW102 that other xtd racquets don’t have is it’s an 18x19. Most seem to be 16x19. I don’t need the higher launch angle.

If anyone bothers to read this, thoughts? Do I just need to get good and stop worrying about this?
tbh even for me the clunkiness of 28" got to me. it was quite wild swinging this for 5 seconds. from 27" to 28" you might feel quite a drastic jump

but I think the reasoning behind giving this frame a go are all fair points and you might find you like it! what an interesting frame
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Maybe it’s just my racquetholicism speaking but I’m thinking about doing something way out of left field.

SW102.

Never even played an extended for more than 5 minutes and that was just a 27.5.


Couple thoughts…

When push comes to shove I win most of my matches with a serve and volley play style. I get so much anxiety hitting ground strokes that I just clam up in “high” pressure matches.
Yet for whatever reason I don’t get anxiety on serve all that much.
I’d be willing to sacrifice more from my groundies if it gives me an edge on serve.

additionally that 1” extra reach and 102” head might help me catch one or two passing shots or lobs that would otherwise burn me on a suboptimal net approach.

Lastly, and this one might make zero sense, my forehand form is pretty ugly and I hit with my elbow close to my body. It just works for me. So if I’m going to be hitting with this form no matter what, maybe the extra inch of length will help me get the leverage a little further away from my body that I just don’t do with my natural swing. I’d imagine the further the racquet head is from my body the more potential my forehand would have.

Another pro for the SW102 that other xtd racquets don’t have is it’s an 18x19. Most seem to be 16x19. I don’t need the higher launch angle.

If anyone bothers to read this, thoughts? Do I just need to get good and stop worrying about this?

I had the BLX version of this racquet for a bit. Basically a guy I played a match with years ago was like "you have to try this frame, I swear by it". So I did. I thought it was pretty damn cool. Great feel, it's like a pro stock frame in terms of feel and solidity. It very well may be the same frame she used, quite honestly. The Swing weight is rather high so it is a lot to get around when combined with the length.Launch angle is low, and since the frame swings slow, you need to have good technique to get the shape on the ball for net clearance.

I can see it benefitting compact strokes for sure. Serena and Venus have that fast takeback where they basically start their swing from the racquet drop, which is odd but worked rather well. The question will be if you can swing it and if you can volley well with it.

Most likely you get anxiety on groundstrokes because you have that moment of time to think about the shot, where a volley is more reactive and fast.

Last thing with XLs. With each 1/4 inch you add, factor in improving your footwork to match it. Try playing a match and running around your backhand as much as possible just to get your feet moving more than anything. If you are not a mover, or have good court positioning, an XL can be rough because your spacing will not be there. That's going to be the main challenge with a 28. But if you dig around I bet you can find a SW102 for a good price and give it a shot. Doesn't even need to be the newest PJ, I think all versions are generally the same.
 

Curtennis

Hall of Fame
I had the BLX version of this racquet for a bit. Basically a guy I played a match with years ago was like "you have to try this frame, I swear by it". So I did. I thought it was pretty damn cool. Great feel, it's like a pro stock frame in terms of feel and solidity. It very well may be the same frame she used, quite honestly. The Swing weight is rather high so it is a lot to get around when combined with the length.Launch angle is low, and since the frame swings slow, you need to have good technique to get the shape on the ball for net clearance.

I can see it benefitting compact strokes for sure. Serena and Venus have that fast takeback where they basically start their swing from the racquet drop, which is odd but worked rather well. The question will be if you can swing it and if you can volley well with it.

Most likely you get anxiety on groundstrokes because you have that moment of time to think about the shot, where a volley is more reactive and fast.

Last thing with XLs. With each 1/4 inch you add, factor in improving your footwork to match it. Try playing a match and running around your backhand as much as possible just to get your feet moving more than anything. If you are not a mover, or have good court positioning, an XL can be rough because your spacing will not be there. That's going to be the main challenge with a 28. But if you dig around I bet you can find a SW102 for a good price and give it a shot. Doesn't even need to be the newest PJ, I think all versions are generally the same.
Amazing response. Thank you.

I think my biggest struggle will be do I stick with it exclusively long enough to truly give it (and me) the chance we need to adjust together. Or do I just end up grabbing my Ezone 98 again out of frustration.
 

FuzzyYellowBalls

Hall of Fame
If anyone bothers to read this, thoughts? Do I just need to get good and stop worrying about this?
you need the maneuverability of a normal racket more than he extra serve inches. How many more lobs can you get with 1 inch more, not many really and body shots as you approach will become slightly harder. Do you mean Swingweight 102?
 

FuzzyYellowBalls

Hall of Fame
Serena Williams 102
Since you are willing to experiment, find one of these, if possible, great for serve and volley. Sampras old endorsement....https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/racquet_reviews/kps88review.html

But still, it's not easy to play with such high swing weights if you need to react quickly. I used that for a long time when I was younger in a pure serve and volley style. No baseline rallies allowed lol.

Really though both options are a little nuts for regular tennis.
 

Curtennis

Hall of Fame
Since you are willing to experiment, find one of these, if possible, great for serve and volley. Sampras old endorsement....https://www.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/racquet_reviews/kps88review.html

But still, it's not easy to play with such high swing weights if you need to react quickly. I used that for a long time when I was younger in a pure serve and volley style. No baseline rallies allowed lol.

Really though both options are a little nuts for regular tennis.
Damn that’s one heavy racquet stock. 363 grams strung. Wow more than literally anything else sold as new on TW today.

I’d love to get my hands on one just for the hell of it. Thanks for the share.
 
Random question (best asked on this thread, since it's a purchase I'm itching to make for a racquet I don't really need at this point) - the Dunlop CX 400 Tour is on sale for $150 right now, and from all I've read about it and the specs, looks like a great deal and an interesting stick. However, I also have an Auxetic Speed MP lying around. I think these two racquets are way to similar to justify purchasing the CX 400 Tour, even at that low price, no?
 

SupahMan5000

Hall of Fame
Random question (best asked on this thread, since it's a purchase I'm itching to make for a racquet I don't really need at this point) - the Dunlop CX 400 Tour is on sale for $150 right now, and from all I've read about it and the specs, looks like a great deal and an interesting stick. However, I also have an Auxetic Speed MP lying around. I think these two racquets are way to similar to justify purchasing the CX 400 Tour, even at that low price, no?
Spec wise similar but the flatter beams of the Cx400 and the stiffer RA gives you a crisper response. I think it is slightly lower powered and a more controlled launch angle

Need to revisit the Speed MP but I believe it is more powerful and maybe a little nicer feeling
 

gino

Legend
Maybe it’s just my racquetholicism speaking but I’m thinking about doing something way out of left field.

SW102.

Never even played an extended for more than 5 minutes and that was just a 27.5.


Couple thoughts…

When push comes to shove I win most of my matches with a serve and volley play style. I get so much anxiety hitting ground strokes that I just clam up in “high” pressure matches.
Yet for whatever reason I don’t get anxiety on serve all that much.
I’d be willing to sacrifice more from my groundies if it gives me an edge on serve.

additionally that 1” extra reach and 102” head might help me catch one or two passing shots or lobs that would otherwise burn me on a suboptimal net approach.

Lastly, and this one might make zero sense, my forehand form is pretty ugly and I hit with my elbow close to my body. It just works for me. So if I’m going to be hitting with this form no matter what, maybe the extra inch of length will help me get the leverage a little further away from my body that I just don’t do with my natural swing. I’d imagine the further the racquet head is from my body the more potential my forehand would have.

Another pro for the SW102 that other xtd racquets don’t have is it’s an 18x19. Most seem to be 16x19. I don’t need the higher launch angle.

If anyone bothers to read this, thoughts? Do I just need to get good and stop worrying about this?
I like the idea. Extended length does wonders on serve and if you hit 60% of groundies normal players do, then it makes even more sense. I bet you’ll enjoy the extra reach on stretch volleys too.

On your last note, You are good at tennis. Everyone here is good at tennis. Doesn’t matter your technique or how many matches won. You have a passion for something so don’t let results cloud your passion and undermine your skills you’ve built up over time. Just be honest with yourself about expectations and that will make for the clearest mindset when it comes to gear changes.
 

EggSalad

Hall of Fame
I’m sure this is not news to most of y’all but I found it pretty interesting. I was watching Coco’s match last night and wanted to know what racquet she uses.

It’s the current gen Speed Pro mold with PT57A layup painted like a Boom Pro. Kind of feels like ‘my girlsfriends cousin’s best friend’ type of situation.

On the injury front, I had my 4 wk post op check up. Everything is progressing as it should, if not better. But will be another 8 weeks before real tennis. I should be able to get back into drop hitting and light stuff in 4 more weeks. Somewhat bummed but overall super happy to be heading in the right direction. I can start light peloton on top of all the walking I’m doing (4-8 miles per day) so at least my fitness will be decent when I return.
 
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gino

Legend
I’m sure this is not news to most of y’all but I found it pretty interesting. I was watching Coco’s match last night and wanted to know what racquet she uses.

It’s the current gen Speed Pro mold with PT57A layup painted like a Boom Pro. Kind of feels like ‘my girlsfriends cousin’s best friend’ type of situation.

On the injury front, I had my 4 wk post op check up. Everything is pressing as it should, if not better. But will be another 8 weeks before real tennis. I should be able to get back into drop hitting and light stuff in 4 more weeks. Somewhat bummed but overall super happy to be heading in the right direction. I can start light peloton on top of all the walking I’m doing (4-8 miles per day) so at least my fitness will be decent when I return.
That coco frame is nuts, so weird

Glad to hear you’re on the mend, patience always the toughest part about injuries. Silver lining: More time to holic !
 
I'm pretty sure I've not passed the 2.000 serves yet. Just trying to hit without thinking and get the muscle memory going.

To do list:

1) hit higher
2) fix my timing
3) hit faster
4) add some artistic touch (it's too simplistic now)

Still not hitting high enough and my elbow is not as much stretched as I'd like. Ball toss placement is getting more consistent and more inside the court.

These are mostly flat serves. I hit some with some spin from the other side.

 

Vicious49

Legend
I'm pretty sure I've not passed the 2.000 serves yet. Just trying to hit without thinking and get the muscle memory going.

To do list:

1) hit higher
2) fix my timing
3) hit faster
4) add some artistic touch (it's too simplistic now)

Still not hitting high enough and my elbow is not as much stretched as I'd like. Ball toss placement is getting more consistent and more inside the court.

These are mostly flat serves. I hit some with some spin from the other side.

You have to fix your frying pan take back and come up on edge. There's some good YT vids out on that. I still don't stay on edge long enough and pronate too soon but I think I've gotten the take back part fixed to some degree.
 

brentzki

Rookie
You can string about anything in the WO I suspect. It will boil down to what feel you want. I am cycling through strings just because I have a ton here. DF works well. I typically don't like 18x20s because the trajectory is lower than I prefer, but with the WO thats not a problem. So the benefits of 18x20 come into play - better ball feel, control and you can string lower and get longer string life. So I think in that case it is a pretty versatile frame where you can try about any setup you want. Another cool setup if I had multiples would be a gut main/syn gut cross. Obviously going to be less spin than full poly but I suspect that could be an awesome feel setup.

Gut syngut or even multi main is a GOAT setup also for any frames you have laying around that you don't use a lot, but when you want to have a hit you want some good feel.
I'm thinking of an experiment with like multi main with a rough poly in the cross (budget Novak setup) in WO 18x20 XTD to see what performance is like.

Think the string spacing is open enough to still maintain shape on the ball.

Thinking maybe Triax mains and Tour Bite Diamond Rough or Alu Power Rough crosses.
 

emhtennis

Professional
Random question (best asked on this thread, since it's a purchase I'm itching to make for a racquet I don't really need at this point) - the Dunlop CX 400 Tour is on sale for $150 right now, and from all I've read about it and the specs, looks like a great deal and an interesting stick. However, I also have an Auxetic Speed MP lying around. I think these two racquets are way to similar to justify purchasing the CX 400 Tour, even at that low price, no?
CX400 Tour is a great frame. Box beam, good (but not too much power), and of course the Dunlop grip-shape. If you want to test more string go with the Speed, if you want a great new experience go with the Dunlop.
 

SupahMan5000

Hall of Fame
I'm thinking of an experiment with like multi main with a rough poly in the cross (budget Novak setup) in WO 18x20 XTD to see what performance is like.

Think the string spacing is open enough to still maintain shape on the ball.

Thinking maybe Triax mains and Tour Bite Diamond Rough or Alu Power Rough crosses.
Don’t forget Novak used to be an x one biphase guy
 
Has anyone here hit with the 298 Iga and tried weighing it up?

I just noticed that it's a Blade 98 like racquet but ultra stiff. And then I saw that Tennisnerd loved it two years ago. My interest is piqued!
 
Has anyone here hit with the 298 Iga and tried weighing it up?

I just noticed that it's a Blade 98 like racquet but ultra stiff. And then I saw that Tennisnerd loved it two years ago. My interest is piqued!
I played it stock and thought it was great, just felt a little muted and was a little light. Gonna try it again with a leather grip, and measure on my briffidi. I think the swingweight is actually fine (like around 320), and really solid and not unstable at the net (great volleying racquet), but a little more static weight would help.
 

Vicious49

Legend
I'm starting to become less and less of a 'holic. Played 3 sets of doubles followed by a set of singles tonight. Frames used were the Regna 98, C10 Pro, and CX200 Tour. I basically use the heavier C10 Pro to warm up as I have a lot of energy at the beginning and tend to overhit. After the 1st few games I swapped between the Dunlop and Regna for the rest of the night. The Regna has more pop to it. It also hits a more knifing slice from the BH wing. The Dunlop is lower powered as the softer frame doesn't redirect as much back to the ball. Still, it is such a fun frame to play with. It has great control and touch.

On another note, man do kids bounce back fast. It's been 7 weeks since my daughter broke her arm. After her latest x-ray they said she can start swinging a racquet again. She's still 4-5 more weeks from it fully being healed so she can't put her full weight on the arm by doing cartwheels and such but they said to get her to start moving and rotating the arm more. She was so happy to pick her racquet back up. She hit in the house today and she has more power and control now than she did when she was practicing weekly. Kid already has more RHS than I do.
 
You have to fix your frying pan take back and come up on edge. There's some good YT vids out on that. I still don't stay on edge long enough and pronate too soon but I think I've gotten the take back part fixed to some degree.
Yesterday's objectives were:

- a consistent ball toss around 30o angle
- about half a step inside the baseline
- point of contact at 1 o' clock (some went to 2 o' clock and a few at 12 o' clock
- finish on the left side

I see myself hitting them and I like what my left arm does, especially towards the end, following the racket's path to my left side.

I have the continental grip. When I start feeling more comfortable, I think I'll be able to get a higher contact point and pronate later. Now, I open the racket face up too soon.

My goal is to hit more loose and more fluid with the same - if not more acceleration - in a month from now. Hitting the imaginary party-hat and being looser will give me better racket drop and going with the edge of the racket for more time.
 

SupahMan5000

Hall of Fame
I'm enjoying the Percepts a lot and I dont like ending a playtest until I at least break the strings, but I need to be realistic about my timeline before the weather shifts

Im sending out my Percept 97, 97D, 100, 100D, and personal WO XTD to a holic to test. I like the idea of spreading my portfolio to others. It takes up quite a lot of space and I only hit with one racket at a time so its not like they sit in my bag
 

faded_lines

Rookie
I recently just switch from BP to Ezone98 with 3g @ 12 + OG as my main stick. But all this love for the WO XTD really has me thinking.. I've never play with XTD racquets before. Does the standard WO 18x20 play similar? Just less SW? Can anyone compare the E98 to the WO?

Also recently tried a friends PA98.. and man this thing on the forehand hits a sweet ball. :unsure:
 

SupahMan5000

Hall of Fame
I recently just switch from BP to Ezone98 with 3g @ 12 + OG as my main stick. But all this love for the WO XTD really has me thinking.. I've never play with XTD racquets before. Does the standard WO 18x20 play similar? Just less SW? Can anyone compare the E98 to the WO?

Also recently tried a friends PA98.. and man this thing on the forehand hits a sweet ball. :unsure:
Gonna make these comments brief:

EZ98 to WO18x20:
  • Ezone better feel and power
  • Ezone slighlty more plush stringbed and better string movement
  • WO more predictable and better string durability from density
  • WO more boardy feel but still solid
  • WO more control oriented a little more stable and fast swinging
  • Ezone bigger on serve
WO 27" vs XTD :
  • XTD less maneuverable but pretty sizable jump in free power
  • XTD bigger on serves
  • STD more point and shoot, more control oriented
TBH the 18x20 STD didnt wow me like it did others. if the XTD didnt exist i would still be on UP18M or maybe even move over to Percept 97D/100/Ezone 98+
 
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