Diary of a Racketaholic

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I am leaning towards getting the sv98+ or the dr98+.
I am a doubles player now, so I look for the combo of big serve, enough headsize to attack returns and enough touch to direct volleys.
Interestingly babolats strung tight with gut mains works well for this.
My question is how different is the pure aero plus to the apd plus? If it is not a big difference I will stay with yonex.
The wildcard is the sv100+
I always preferred vcore line to ezone line.
It's a better frame to me. More spin due to new open pattern, beefier SW that isn't sluggish, looks better and feels a little better as well.

i dont have an astounding amount of experience with plus length frames, but for me they suck dookie at the net when playing doubles. serves, yes. groundies, yes. being the net guy in doubles, hayull no.
I have had no issues at all doing this exact thing. I think you probably need more experience with xl frames. Just would have to commit to using the one you like and then the adjustment is easy. Bryan Brothers use XL frames, and they are pretty good.

The PA+ is awesome at net. Once you get used to it you don't even notice it as an extended frame imo
Agree. I have not had issues volleying at all with the PA+. It's actually really fun at net.
 
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JGads

Hall of Fame
I am leaning towards getting the sv98+ or the dr98+.
I am a doubles player now, so I look for the combo of big serve, enough headsize to attack returns and enough touch to direct volleys.
Interestingly babolats strung tight with gut mains works well for this.
My question is how different is the pure aero plus to the apd plus? If it is not a big difference I will stay with yonex.
The wildcard is the sv100+
I always preferred vcore line to ezone line.
Between the two (and having only tried the Dr+ but also the standard length SVs) I would, given your previous love for the VCores, lean SV on this.

The DR line I just find really strange. People rave over the feel, and yes it is soft, but it's such a weird softness to me - doesn't feel rich, and in fact the stick almost feels plastic-y to me. Someone described it as feeling like tupperware, which I thought was a perfect description. I just couldn't get over the feel being weird to me in both the regular and plus length versions. But: I think I'm in the great minority as so many people just love the stick and I see some really great players hitting really well with it.

On my end, I have just arrived in Europe for the summer to finish a work project and have come armed with both the extended and standard length PK Q series sticks, along with the 7G, and the plan is to use these as my go-tos for awhile with the Head pro stocks also at the ready. Over the last couple of weeks I sought out finding a PK Q+5X (the extended) with the lowest swingweight I could find and in that process found one with a 307 unstrung SW that feels very manageable. A used one came in at a 311 unstrung SW, and ultimately went back in favor of just using my 7G as the backup to the 307. Will see how this goes.

By the way, Fed, not to complicate matters (though this is my move), since you're a dubs player, maybe an in-between frame to keep your eye out on in the future would be a Pacific frame that's out in europe and I believe soon coming to TW (read about in another thread) that's 27.3 in length. The thing looks very Babolat-ish to me but Pacific frames are known to have excellent feel, so maybe a future candidate:

http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/Pacific_BXT_X_Fast_Pro_Racket/descpageRCPACIH-XFAP.html

And currently at TW are a few Pacific sticks that look really interesting because they have the hallowed 16/20 pattern. In the Pacific thread Rabbit is honeymooning with this one that he calls a supercharged, easier-to-use C10 Pro (I know you also were at one point hitting Volkls):
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Pacific_X_Force_Pro_1/descpageRCPACIFIC-PXFPR1.html
 
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gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
Between the two (and having only tried the Dr+ but also the standard length SVs) I would, given your previous love for the VCores, lean SV on this.

The DR line I just find really strange. People rave over the feel, and yes it is soft, but it's such a weird softness to me - doesn't feel rich, and in fact the stick almost feels plastic-y to me. Someone described it as feeling like tupperware, which I thought was a perfect description. I just couldn't get over the feel being weird to me in both the regular and plus length versions. But: I think I'm in the great minority as so many people just love the stick and I see some really great players hitting really well with it.

On my end, I have just arrived in Europe for the summer to finish a work project and have come armed with both the extended and standard length PK Q series sticks, along with the 7G, and the plan is to use these as my go-tos for awhile with the Head pro stocks also at the ready. Over the last couple of weeks I sought out finding a PK Q+5X (the extended) with the lowest swingweight I could find and in that process found one with a 307 unstrung SW that feels very manageable. A used one came in at a 311 unstrung SW, and ultimately went back in favor of just using my 7G as the backup to the 307. Will see how this goes.

By the way, Fed, not to complicate matters (though this is my move), since you're a dubs player, maybe an in-between frame to keep your eye out on in the future would be a Pacific frame that's out in europe and I believe soon coming to TW (read about in another thread) that's 27.3 in length. The thing looks very Babolat-ish to me but Pacific frames are known to have excellent feel, so maybe a future candidate:

http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.com/Pacific_BXT_X_Fast_Pro_Racket/descpageRCPACIH-XFAP.html

And currently at TW are a few Pacific sticks that look really interesting because they have the hallowed 16/20 pattern. In the Pacific thread Rabbit is honeymooning with this one that he calls a supercharged, easier-to-use C10 Pro (I know you also were at one point hitting Volkls):
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Pacific_X_Force_Pro_1/descpageRCPACIFIC-PXFPR1.html
I own several pacific xforce pro no. 1 frames and they are delightful. I agree that whatever materials and manufacturing process Pacific is using, their frames feel great and in my opinion are better quality than most frames on the market. Flexy throat, stiffer head but not stiff by any means, great spin for a rather dense 16x20 string pattern. If I was 20, in great shape , and playing 4+ times a week, this may be my go to. I added some weight to the head and handle and played them at 335-340 grams all in.
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
i dont have an astounding amount of experience with plus length frames, but for me they suck dookie at the net when playing doubles. serves, yes. groundies, yes. being the net guy in doubles, hayull no.
I choke up when I play extended length frames. I think it makes them a little more maneuverable, and it gives you a firm handle on the frame, no pun intended. When I play standard length frames I choke down, which means the butt of the grip is almost in the middle of my palm and my pinky may hang off sometimes for better or for worse. I find that gives standard length frames a little more leverage or torque though. Obviously this is a non-issue for extended frames.
 

JGads

Hall of Fame
I choke up when I play extended length frames. I think it makes them a little more maneuverable, and it gives you a firm handle on the frame, no pun intended. When I play standard length frames I choke down, which means the butt of the grip is almost in the middle of my palm and my pinky may hang off sometimes for better or for worse. I find that gives standard length frames a little more leverage or torque though. Obviously this is a non-issue for extended frames.
I do this as well when whirling an extended and feeling like I'm not getting around quickly enough or playing like an idiot. Just choke up and swing away and see what happens. It can be great, it can be messy. But therein lies the truth of being a recreational tennis player.
 

Powderwombat

Semi-Pro
DRs are plush and give you great feel for the ball. Fantastic feeling racquets, very comfortable too. Let's be real a lot of the way a racquet feels is due to the strings used.
 

Murray_fan1

Professional
Ever make a decision on something and instantly regret it? Hit with the PA+ tonight and loved every minute of it. This makes me wonder why I even bothered looking at the SV? I think once the SV arrives I am going to resist the holic urge and sell it instead testing out. I don't think I need anymore indecision as to what is better. The PA just works so well for my game I don't want to mess with it.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Ever make a decision on something and instantly regret it? Hit with the PA+ tonight and loved every minute of it. This makes me wonder why I even bothered looking at the SV? I think once the SV arrives I am going to resist the holic urge and sell it instead testing out. I don't think I need anymore indecision as to what is better. The PA just works so well for my game I don't want to mess with it.
I'm there myself. Not interested in testing frames, more interested in just playing. The PK5Q+ is my back up plan in case I get any bad arm pain, but I've been as comfortable with this as any player's frame so far.
 

JGads

Hall of Fame
Ever make a decision on something and instantly regret it? Hit with the PA+ tonight and loved every minute of it. This makes me wonder why I even bothered looking at the SV? I think once the SV arrives I am going to resist the holic urge and sell it instead testing out. I don't think I need anymore indecision as to what is better. The PA just works so well for my game I don't want to mess with it.
And this is weakness.
 

Mateo

Rookie
I'n need of an advice about PD Tour, I have DR98 but I'am in need of some free power and overall easier racquet to play with with little bit more forgiveness. I have offer to trade DR for PDT but I can't test it out....I do tend to flat out on my one H B....what are your thoughts about PDT ,would that be little bit better and to give some free points when I am empty with power level than DR?
 

JGads

Hall of Fame
DRs are plush and give you great feel for the ball. Fantastic feeling racquets, very comfortable too. Let's be real a lot of the way a racquet feels is due to the strings used.
I've tried a DR now four different times, with different strings. Just not the feel for me. It's comfortable/flexy but still a hollowness to it I don't like. But like I said, I'm in the minority.
 
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Murray_fan1

Professional
I've tried a DR now four different times, with different strings. Just not the feel for me. It's comfortable/flexy but still a hollowness to it I don't like. But like I said, I'm in the minority.
I had a similar experience. I have tried this stick multiple times wanting to like it but I could never really gel with it.
 
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I believe in the PA+ remaining MurrayFans go to after this fling. But I also think the Yonny will deliver. Their stiffer 98 series is some of their best work and what they commonly send their pros that are lower ranked.

Believe I mentioned it, before in here but I have one now - the old XI98D one. Straight from Yonex to a pro's hands. I believe it is the same frame as retail, but the SW may be a little higher - like 320 or so. But it basically feels the same to me. Just a testament to the quality of racquet Yonex makes. And Babolat as well. They basically do the same thing.
 

JGads

Hall of Fame
^
That Xi 98 is a beast frame. Add a bit of length and it could be even better, a filthy-backhand machine. I wonder if that's what the SV+ is, or something else.

Got my first hit in today back on the red clay. PKs balled.
 

Murray_fan1

Professional
I believe in the PA+ remaining MurrayFans go to after this fling. But I also think the Yonny will deliver. Their stiffer 98 series is some of their best work and what they commonly send their pros that are lower ranked.

Believe I mentioned it, before in here but I have one now - the old XI98D one. Straight from Yonex to a pro's hands. I believe it is the same frame as retail, but the SW may be a little higher - like 320 or so. But it basically feels the same to me. Just a testament to the quality of racquet Yonex makes. And Babolat as well. They basically do the same thing.
You are probably right. It would take something truly special to get me to switch from the PA+
 
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SpinToWin

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Slipped and now inner ankle twinges are back. No swelling or bruise though, seems I didn't reinjure it (hope dies last as they say). No tennis for me in the next few days at least though :(
 

Capulin Zurdo

Hall of Fame
Never fails. You watch Stan, then you want to swing a Yonex.

I've been intrigued with Yonex frames in the past but haven't got around to trying any, and with the great feedback on them and Wawrinka's ascendancy, I've finally tried one out. Now I'm hooked. Loving the AI 98 right now, with the VCore 95D as a mainstay.
 

JGads

Hall of Fame
best lookin ugly dude ive ever seen
Killed me. Somehow so true.

Such a Stan fan. Filthiest backhand ever, but mostly, been so incredible to see how he's gone from the big moments breaking him when he was younger to how he now just blasts through them so often. There are few players more breathtaking to watch when you can visibly see that he's gone to that, "F it, I'm swinging" place in his mind. Rafa looks unstoppable on the RG clay, but hoping Stan has enough left after that semi to at least make it a fight.
 

SpinToWin

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Killed me. Somehow so true.

Such a Stan fan. Filthiest backhand ever, but mostly, been so incredible to see how he's gone from the big moments breaking him when he was younger to how he now just blasts through them so often. There are few players more breathtaking to watch when you can visibly see that he's gone to that, "F it, I'm swinging" place in his mind. Rafa looks unstoppable on the RG clay, but hoping Stan has enough left after that semi to at least make it a fight.
Really impressed by Stan, but I'm struggling to see how he will beat Rafa in this form... It feels like the court is full of openings for him to exploit. The way he neutralized great shots by Thiem and turned the rally on its head in one shot was insane.
 

JGads

Hall of Fame
Really impressed by Stan, but I'm struggling to see how he will beat Rafa in this form... It feels like the court is full of openings for him to exploit. The way he neutralized great shots by Thiem and turned the rally on its head in one shot was insane.
Stan is one of the very few who can hit through him on clay. He's done it before. Plus, this is sort of Stan's sweet spot of being the underdog nobody expects to win, so F it, play free, swing away. But, Rafa is so fresh and so determined, that I don't see a Stan win happening unless Rafa feels the pressure of the moment, which puts him off the A++ game he's been carrying straight through. Just hoping it's SOMEwhat of a tussle, rather than another Rafa straight setter.
 
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Power Player

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I like Nadal. But Im in Miami and watched this match with many hispanics so its hard not to root for him when i have super hot latina girls asking me to play tennis with them.
 

n8dawg6

Legend
stanley was tired from that 5 setter. even if he had been fresh though, he would have just been less tired when he lost. nadal is hitting groundstrokes the likes of which the world has never seen

but thank gawd it didnt go five sets, i would turn into a skeleton waiting on nadal between points
 

n8dawg6

Legend
and what the hell is matthew mcchonehay doing driving himself around in the back seat of his own lincoln. he has been smokin WAY too much of that stuff
 

Murray_fan1

Professional
Finally managed to get a hit in with the SV98+ today and I will say I am impressed. Super stable, good pop and very precise.

Although I only hit with it for about an hour i think this could be well suited to those who like the idea of a PA+ but don't find enough precision. It has a lot of the same attributes but goes about it in a different way. The PA+ allows superior spin production, pop and forgiveness while the SV98 has better linear control and slightly more stability due the smaller head and slightly heavier swing weight. I have nothing but positives thus far but if I had to choose one to take into a match today I would still use the PA+. More to come
 

JGads

Hall of Fame
Finally managed to get a hit in with the SV98+ today and I will say I am impressed. Super stable, good pop and very precise.

Although I only hit with it for about an hour i think this could be well suited to those who like the idea of a PA+ but don't find enough precision. It has a lot of the same attributes but goes about it in a different way. The PA+ allows superior spin production, pop and forgiveness while the SV98 has better linear control and slightly more stability due the smaller head and slightly heavier swing weight. I have nothing but positives thus far but if I had to choose one to take into a match today I would still use the PA+. More to come
Nice. How is the feel compared to the Pure Aero? I ask with the caveat that Yonexes can feel uber stiff at first and then get much more comfy with hitting, as MD and I hated the VCore XI he purchased at first, so after more hits maybe that Yonnie will then feel like a very different frame from even now.
 

Murray_fan1

Professional
Feel is really good from the get go. I don't if it was the extended length or the strings but I could almost detect a little bit of flex which was quite surprising. Hard to imagine the feel would get better but I will definitely update once I have had more time on the court.
 
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