Diary of a Racketaholic

Faris

Professional
Have not, but people in this thread as well as others have said that the twaron addition really smooths out the feel from the previous iteration. Also that there is more stability in the latest vs the other. Can't personally attest to that, but it seems that's the common take.
Ok thnx.. was wondering which one to pull trigger on myself after raving reviews of Iga.. 290 I can add weight later but if they both have different layups it might change a few things..
 

Hotpockets

Rookie
I feel like Yonex is what Babolat was doing a decade ago.. most juniors and up and comers are wielding Yonex frames nowadays.. I know someone who was telling me his kid wants the "red yonex" which Shapo uses.. also helps that Yonex makes awesome quality racquets too just check out their QC.. simply insane!
Definitely. Just a few pages back I saw those QC numbers so I know what you are saying. Have never seen something like that, ever.
 

JGads

Legend
Ok thnx.. was wondering which one to pull trigger on myself after raving reviews of Iga.. 290 I can add weight later but if they both have different layups it might change a few things..
Yeah I have the 290 and added a bunch of weight at the handle, effectively turning it into a 310+. If I would get another one I would probably just go 310 because that handle weight his already there. Same stick/hoop/stringbed though, and I can attest that that stringbed is awesome. Reliable.
 

Faris

Professional
Yeah I have the 290 and added a bunch of weight at the handle, effectively turning it into a 310+. If I would get another one I would probably just go 310 because that handle weight his already there. Same stick/hoop/stringbed though, and I can attest that that stringbed is awesome. Reliable.
Sorry if I missed it.. are you using S7T or Hyper G?
 

AA7

Professional
Ok thnx.. was wondering which one to pull trigger on myself after raving reviews of Iga.. 290 I can add weight later but if they both have different layups it might change a few things..
So 310 and 290 are identical... difference is weight in the handle.. literally..

From @jmacdaununder2 on all tour.. good summary:
2015 has TeXtreme in the throat; 2019 has TeXtreme X in the throat, which is TeXtreme with the addition of Twaron fibers; 2020 has TeXtreme X at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock as well as in the throat, which should help with the slightly fluttery upper hoop of the 2015 - this feeling was substantially reduced in the 2019 in any case.
 

Faris

Professional
So 310 and 290 are identical... difference is weight in the handle.. literally..

From @jmacdaununder2 on all tour.. good summary:
2015 has TeXtreme in the throat; 2019 has TeXtreme X in the throat, which is TeXtreme with the addition of Twaron fibers; 2020 has TeXtreme X at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock as well as in the throat, which should help with the slightly fluttery upper hoop of the 2015 - this feeling was substantially reduced in the 2019 in any case.
Perfect! So either way it seems like an improvement! Appreciate it..
 
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ryushen21

Hall of Fame
Anyone else have the issue of when you want to go play tennis that all of the sudden your wife wants some "quality time"? And then when that 5 minutes is up, she still won't let you go play tennis...

In other news, my coach mentioned to me that he has a connection for racquets. This could be very good for me if I've made up my mind or very bad for my holicing.
 

sanister

Professional
Anyone else have the issue of when you want to go play tennis that all of the sudden your wife wants some "quality time"? And then when that 5 minutes is up, she still won't let you go play tennis...

In other news, my coach mentioned to me that he has a connection for racquets. This could be very good for me if I've made up my mind or very bad for my holicing.
Same here after 4 kids & 30 years. It never changes so get used to it my friend haha :D

Cool. What kind of racquets? Definitely try some prostocks if you get a chance those things play so nice.
 

Vicious49

Semi-Pro
Unfortunately when we started the set things didn't go quite as well. Serves were good, plenty of pace on 1st and my kickers/slice serves we're working fine. Main issue was on defence and returns where I was giving up too many short balls and getting punished.

At 2-5 0-30 I gave in and grabbed my TT310, took the set 7-5. Pretty much everything was better with the Prince, except maybe 1st serves where the added power from the GT was giving me a few extra MPH.

Will probably give the Gravity another try, maybe with a different string setup, but it looks like I need to start stocking up on TT310s!
On defense and returns did it just not have the stability to return them deep or clean enough? In my limited demo time with it I thought some of my defensive shots floated a bit Which is one of the reasons I preferred the extra weight of the Gravity Pro.
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
Same here after 4 kids & 30 years. It never changes so get used to it my friend haha :D

Cool. What kind of racquets? Definitely try some prostocks if you get a chance those things play so nice.
Yeah, my stringer has a stash of Wilson Pro Stocks and maybe even a few Head frames. I'm not changing stringers anytime soon so I'll hit him up to try those soon.

My coach has a guy who discounts him on current retail frames. So if I can get a pair of EZ100s for around 400, that may put an end to my current racquet bender. I can say that having a coach now has me not wanting to goof around with gear unless I have to.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I ran into a similar thing on my last outing! Found a semi-local store to let me demo some frames, and grabbed an Ezone 100 (strung with sgut), blade V7 18x20 (1619 demo oos), pure aero 2019, and pure strike 3rd gen 18x20 (1619 demo oos) - so basically a variant of every frame left I have any interest in.

Pure aero I put away pretty quickly, it played a lot like the 2016 for me, just felt less bad. Blade was the second to get ruled out, it felt great but it just didn't have the pop I'm used to and rely on. I hit well with the Ezone 100 and didn't really have any issues with it, but I just kept putting it down. Haqq suggested this might happen based on feel, and it looks like he was right - nothing technically wrong with it at all, and what PP's said about it I think is accurate. Hits a heavy ball despite the low SW, doesn't feel like a 100 when you swing it, feels softer than you'd guess based on RA, high-quality paintjob. Just couldn't jive with the feel! Might have been the strings though, so I'm not willing to rule it out completely. I'll still grab one it if see it around.

The standout though was the pure strike. Man oh man, that thing was sweet - it felt best to me out of all of them, hands down. I spent most of the time switching off between that and my APD (which was an extremely hard and uncomfortable transition to make + in retrospect I shouldn't have done it).

Let me crush drives extremely accurately, to the point I didn't really even feel like breaking the loopers out. Approach shots were awesome, I could just pick a corner and smack it there 6" above the net in a way I've never been comfortable doing before. Volleys were better than anything else I've tried, and slices were better than everything I've tried except the blade. Serves were definitely worse than my APDs, but that's a given - nothing serves like them for me. I'm wondering if I shouldn't try bumping the tension in my APDs some to try and get some control back.

Hitting partner said I was hitting heavier but less oenetrating with the APD, but he was running more when I used the strike and I missed less. I think a lot of the missing with the APD was due to me switching between it and a racquet that I have to swing much harder with a totally different swing path, so not sure what to make of that.

The guy hit slower than most of my hitting partners, so I'm not sure how the thing would handle heavier balls - and I'm not gonna be able to figure that out as soon as I'd like, because the afternoon after this hit I stepped on some broken glass and botched my foot a bit. But, pure strike 3G in both string patterns is definitely something I wanna try more.
Demoing the 100 with syn gut or multi honestly probably doesnt do it much justice.

but if you like the feel of a babolat, this is not it. Its a
Yonex which to me has more wilson dna in it. To me the yonex is more comfortable. I notice that when switching between the pd and ezone.

pure strike is amazing. Im surprised you went all in on driving the ball but its that kind of racquet.I was sold on the strike until i tried the ezone and to me, the ezone has a better feel. The strike feels nice but is the most muted babolat.

i think the gateway to yy frames is a crisp poly string like s7t. Really opens it up more.
 

Vicious49

Semi-Pro
Anyone else have the issue of when you want to go play tennis that all of the sudden your wife wants some "quality time"? And then when that 5 minutes is up, she still won't let you go play tennis...

In other news, my coach mentioned to me that he has a connection for racquets. This could be very good for me if I've made up my mind or very bad for my holicing.
For me it’s my 2 year old daughter. she knows when I’m leaving to play tennis (I think it’s the clothes) so she gets extra clingy and won’t let me put her down or let me out of her sight.

Have you narrowed it down any? What weight range are you looking at now?
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
For me it’s my 2 year old daughter. she knows when I’m leaving to play tennis (I think it’s the clothes) so she gets extra clingy and won’t let me put her down or let me out of her sight.

Have you narrowed it down any? What weight range are you looking at now?
After checking some other threads and taking into consideration the advice of posters whose opinions I trust, I'm going to pick up the EZone 100. The plan is to leave it stock as much as possible which is around the 11.2oz range.

It's a big change from my current 12.6oz UT or 13oz+ 6.1s but as my focus at the moment is game improvement, it's absolutely the right choice. I'm even going to give the synthetic grips a chance since I've read that Yonex designs theirs to have as little compression as possible.
 

t_pac

Semi-Pro
On defense and returns did it just not have the stability to return them deep or clean enough? In my limited demo time with it I thought some of my defensive shots floated a bit Which is one of the reasons I preferred the extra weight of the Gravity Pro.
Stability was definitely part of it, GT actually wasn't bad but not in the same league as my Tours which are just rock solid. The other issue is due to the denser string bed and lower launch angle it just takes a bit more effort/work to send the ball back with enough interest to stay in the point, despite having more inherent power than the TTs.

Even on stretched out defensive shots I know I can send the ball back deep with plenty of spin with the TTs which buys me more time to recover.

I'd probably prefer the Pro but I already have plenty of heavy 18x20s so was more hoping for something a little easier to wield on days when my game isn't 100% (getting more frequent now I'm in my 40s lol)

I'm pretty grooved with the TTs right now so not a huge surprise the GT didn't click right away, although I do have/have played with plenty of 18x20s.

I'll give it a few more sessions when I'm playing casual games but I can't see it staying in my bag.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
After checking some other threads and taking into consideration the advice of posters whose opinions I trust, I'm going to pick up the EZone 100. The plan is to leave it stock as much as possible which is around the 11.2oz range.

It's a big change from my current 12.6oz UT or 13oz+ 6.1s but as my focus at the moment is game improvement, it's absolutely the right choice. I'm even going to give the synthetic grips a chance since I've read that Yonex designs theirs to have as little compression as possible.
this rules. Enjoy it. Its gonna be an adjustment going down in weight. But since you like the yonex feel i think you will play great with it.

S7t or tour sniper or probably hyper g will set you right.
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
this rules. Enjoy it. Its gonna be an adjustment going down in weight. But since you like the yonex feel i think you will play great with it.

S7t or tour sniper or probably hyper g will set you right.
I knew from my first hit the with the 97HD that I was going to like Yonex frames. And I have to admit they have something that other frames don't.

I'm looking forward to playing better and smarter instead of harder.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
Very interesting about your last outing with the racquets. Nice. I thought you'd be clicking more with PA 2019 for some reason but yeah all of these were good probables :).

Yeah my youngest plays with Ezone 100 actually so I know the stick well, even poated about it somewhere here on forum. Nice stick overall but if you're used to a certain feedback like say APDs or anything livelier the feedback is just very different. Great racquet nevertheless. Definitely string it with full poly & see if you might like. Strikes are fantastic & if you get a chance try the 16x19 and even Strike 100. Great frames! (y)
I've been using all these drive-y racquets lately, so I've been playing a little closer to the baseline and lower-trajectory overall, which I think impacted what I liked this time out. Also, without needing to play much defense I think a lot of the issues I'd have with the strike were covered up. Really want to try the 16x19 now though.

I think the sgut did the Ezone kinda dirty, I'm used to at least a little bit of crispness and I think a poly would have provided that but the sgut just deprived me of that "crack" I wanted on impact and I kinda got lost in the supermassive sweetspot.
 
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gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
It's a big change from my current 12.6oz UT or 13oz+ 6.1s
The biggest challenge will be resisting the temptation to arm the ball simply because by shaving off 1-2 ounces in static weight the racquet will now feel like a featherweight. Instead I recommend you use this as an opportunity to reinforce good habits like strong base and weight transfer while maybe even lengthening the range of your backswing on both wings (and the serve) now that you will be able to move and accelerate the frame with less effort. Good stuff man!
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I've been using all these drive-y racquets lately, so I've been playing a little closer to the basement and lower-trajectory overall, which I think impacted what I liked this time out. Also, without needing to play much defense I think a lot of the issues I'd have with the strike were covered up. Really want to try the 16x19 now though.

I think the sgut did the Ezone kinda dirty, I'm used to at least a little bit of crispness and I think a poly would have provided that but the sgut just deprived me of that "crack" I wanted on impact and I kinda got lost in the supermassive sweetspot.
The crack of the 100 is what i love. But im using full poly.

the ps 16x19 is a must demo. Maybe even the 100 as well.
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
The biggest challenge will be resisting the temptation to arm the ball simply because by shaving off 1-2 ounces in static weight the racquet will now feel like a featherweight. Instead I recommend you use this as an opportunity to reinforce good habits like strong base and weight transfer while maybe even lengthening the range of your backswing on both wings now that you will be able to move and accelerate the frame with less effort. Good stuff man!
My coach is reworking my my strokes. We've already simplified my takeback and he hammered into my head not to fight my body. Basically, I was trying to keep my right foot back and open my stance more instead of transferring all of my weight through the swing and into the shot. He's not gonna let me arm my shots.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
After checking some other threads and taking into consideration the advice of posters whose opinions I trust, I'm going to pick up the EZone 100. The plan is to leave it stock as much as possible which is around the 11.2oz range.

It's a big change from my current 12.6oz UT or 13oz+ 6.1s but as my focus at the moment is game improvement, it's absolutely the right choice. I'm even going to give the synthetic grips a chance since I've read that Yonex designs theirs to have as little compression as possible.
If you like the Yonex feel, I think you're gonna like it. I tried the 100 without an overgrip and it definitely had the best grip too. A lot of the ease of the PD with better feel and control, minus a lot of clunk.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
Demoing the 100 with syn gut or multi honestly probably doesnt do it much justice.

but if you like the feel of a babolat, this is not it. Its a
Yonex which to me has more wilson dna in it. To me the yonex is more comfortable. I notice that when switching between the pd and ezone.

pure strike is amazing. Im surprised you went all in on driving the ball but its that kind of racquet.I was sold on the strike until i tried the ezone and to me, the ezone has a better feel. The strike feels nice but is the most muted babolat.

i think the gateway to yy frames is a crisp poly string like s7t. Really opens it up more.
Yonex felt extremely comfy, maybe it was the strings but I couldn't even put it in the same category as the PD or my APDs - just much less jarring all around. I will re-try it with some poly at some point though because the playability was all there - it sat somewhere in between my APD and the PD in terms of letting me play my game without change. I'm just used to the harsher, crisper feel of babolats and without arm issues I'm not being forced to change.

I was just playing baseline games with this guy, so I was able to think about switching over more to drives. In matches, it gets harder to switch my strokes that much, but I'm gradually getting comfortable enough to do it. I've been working on it a lot because of how much easier it is - I've been forced to accept what you said before about it just being an energy drain. I can't keep up the whippy forehands for multiple matches a day like I could when I was a teen, and honestly I think baseline grinding overall might not be something I want to do to my joints long-term.

But yeah, the strike is amazing for this game. How did you feel the power was compared to the Ezone? I thought the 18x20 strike was down on power in most circumstances (exceptions being SW-dependant shots like returns or blocks) but I'm not sure what impact sgut would have on that because honestly I haven't used the stuff in over a decade.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
The crack of the 100 is what i love. But im using full poly.

the ps 16x19 is a must demo. Maybe even the 100 as well.
I'm definitely gonna have to revisit the Yonex with better strings sometime.

I'm gonna grab a 16x19 to try for sure, but I'm conflicted about the 100 - so many of the things I liked about the frame came from it doing 98 in a way that felt really, really right to me, and I'm not sure if scaling that up would work. I'll have to search up some comparos.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I live on the Front Range here in CO and you get used to the higher altitude pretty quickly (I moved from CA about 8 years ago) to the point that you don't even think about it fairly soon, especially if you're in decent shape. The high altitude balls definitely help to compensate for everything so I don't hear folks having to add a lot more topspin to accommodate. I hit fairly flat, though will intentionally use more topspin than normal on occasion, and never felt I needed to change my style once moving here. The relative lack of humidity is sublime and the number of sunny, playable days, even in winter, is crazy. Also a very active tennis scene here. Read in one of the CO USTA magazine issues a year or so ago that CO had the fastest growth in the US in terms of leagues; go figure. I respect and admire those who can play in regions with high humidity (I grew up in FL on central Atlantic coast and then VA) or with a high propensity for wet conditions (tip o the hat to those of you in the PNW), and there are lots of great areas in the US (let alone across the pond) in which to live and play, but one could do worse than my fair state. Loads of unabashed bias, of course.:)
Nice, another Holic out there. Really nice to keep hearing about the weather and that the ball is not much different.

I need to learn the spots to play in the SW area. I can zip down to Highlands Ranch, I know there is a good spot in Cherry Creek as well. Also going to look for some less popular courts near me so I can wall hit and work on my serve, or just have a spot to play with someone.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Yonex felt extremely comfy, maybe it was the strings but I couldn't even put it in the same category as the PD or my APDs - just much less jarring all around. I will re-try it with some poly at some point though because the playability was all there - it sat somewhere in between my APD and the PD in terms of letting me play my game without change. I'm just used to the harsher, crisper feel of babolats and without arm issues I'm not being forced to change.

I was just playing baseline games with this guy, so I was able to think about switching over more to drives. In matches, it gets harder to switch my strokes that much, but I'm gradually getting comfortable enough to do it. I've been working on it a lot because of how much easier it is - I've been forced to accept what you said before about it just being an energy drain. I can't keep up the whippy forehands for multiple matches a day like I could when I was a teen, and honestly I think baseline grinding overall might not be something I want to do to my joints long-term.

But yeah, the strike is amazing for this game. How did you feel the power was compared to the Ezone? I thought the 18x20 strike was down on power in most circumstances (exceptions being SW-dependant shots like returns or blocks) but I'm not sure what impact sgut would have on that because honestly I haven't used the stuff in over a decade.
I think the Ezone has more power than the strike 16x19 by a bit. I say this because it plays at a lighter weight and SW and still lets me generate the same level of power off the ground and on serve. The Ezone is a legit tweener in terms of power. I also prefer the feel of the YY. The Babolats have not bothered my arm at all, but they have that rigid feel. The YY feel to me is closer to racquets I prefer. If I go between it and the UT and it's not a completely jarring change like with a Pure drive.

What got me thinking about the Ezone was I was using the Strike, loving it and thinking - "man I wish this felt more like the old vcxi98". Main reason is I used the heck out of that frame and for being rather stiff, it never bugged my arm and it actually felt great to me on contact. I had been real curious about the Ezone tour, but going up to a 315 just doesnt make a lot of sense for me, so I started reading about the Ezone 100 and was impressed with the reviews.

The only way I can describe the Ezone is that it's fusion of the Strike and APD13 with the Yonex feel. And yeah, that harsh, crisp feel is pretty cool from the Bab tweeners but the Pure Strike doesn't really have that. It's a lot more muted, more than the Ezone 100 for me. At least with poly, in the Ezone 100 I can feel everything the ball is doing.
 
So, I have just bought an Extreme Tour. Any recommended setups? I was thinking about going either Grey Fire or Lynx Tour @ 52/49 lbs, which is my usual tension. I’ve been playing with Element @ 54/51 on these hot days, so I was hoping that the tension difference in tension would compensate for the slightly stiffer string.
There’s also a good chance I’ll add some lead to the hoop in order to bring the SW to ~330...
 

skeeter

Professional
Nice, another Holic out there. Really nice to keep hearing about the weather and that the ball is not much different.

I need to learn the spots to play in the SW area. I can zip down to Highlands Ranch, I know there is a good spot in Cherry Creek as well. Also going to look for some less popular courts near me so I can wall hit and work on my serve, or just have a spot to play with someone.
I'm up in the Ft. Collins area so not as familiar with greater Denver but have a few tennis buds down there so will inquire. In the SW area, have played USTA matches in the Ken Caryl area (rec center? community center?) and recall some nice courts there. Near Cherry Creek there is the Gates Tennis Center but I believe membership based; but nice set up. Saw a challengers match there a number of years ago.

Strike v3 100, Ezone 100, and VCPro 100 demos arrive tomorrow. Let the battle of the 100s begin.
 

tim-ay

Rookie
I'm up in the Ft. Collins area so not as familiar with greater Denver but have a few tennis buds down there so will inquire. In the SW area, have played USTA matches in the Ken Caryl area (rec center? community center?) and recall some nice courts there. Near Cherry Creek there is the Gates Tennis Center but I believe membership based; but nice set up. Saw a challengers match there a number of years ago.

Strike v3 100, Ezone 100, and VCPro 100 demos arrive tomorrow. Let the battle of the 100s begin.
I miss going up the north side of that hill by Horsetooth reservoir on my road bike. That was always a litmus test of my fitness. Stay in the big chain ring the whole way and my bad-assed-ness felt strong. Haha. You’re in a wonderful spot.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I'm up in the Ft. Collins area so not as familiar with greater Denver but have a few tennis buds down there so will inquire. In the SW area, have played USTA matches in the Ken Caryl area (rec center? community center?) and recall some nice courts there. Near Cherry Creek there is the Gates Tennis Center but I believe membership based; but nice set up. Saw a challengers match there a number of years ago.

Strike v3 100, Ezone 100, and VCPro 100 demos arrive tomorrow. Let the battle of the 100s begin.
Fort Collins? That’s the beer capital of the US!! Tons of microbreweries over there. :)
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
@pyrokid
thats funny. we are having a pretty similar experience with the strike. what a racquet. ill try and bridge the gap between the power of it and the aeros.
an obvious way to go is to do a gut poly hybrid,. im thinking vs16 mains @50 and poly cross 17 @47.
but man what a precise feeling.
one thing is for sure. im an L4 grip. i have been using L3 usually. but im 6"1 and have pretty large hands. and i was subconsciously searching for more grip.
and the L4 has given me more stability with my grip. i use a sw forehand grip, and getting into that grip position with the L4 is more pronounced and easily found. within a split second as it is supposed to.
that has been an issue with any of the racquets that i have tried to use.
even the PA which is a Babolat has a slightly diff grip shape than the strike. the strike feels more pronounced. and yes of course i use the same base grip. syntec feel previously named skin feel.
the one stick that stuck out to me that is a non Babolat that if i was able to get used to the grip shape would have been a real contender .. is the speed 360+ MP. that is a frame and a half. goldilocks frame.
but anyway. the strike is a superb frame. gives me such a great and precise feeling off all wings.
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
And just when you had finally decided on 19 PA over the 2013 APD, here comes Pure Strike with all its allure. Sucks being a holic doesn't it? :)
lol. holicism is a privilege not a right.
im really trying to zero in. as fun as it is to tinker with equipment, we all know at the end of the day that it holds our games back not just sticking with one frame.
so one thing for sure is my grip size. L4 is my grip. the apd situation is also a factor of convenience. its too difficult to track them down yet alone in L4. so i have to be pragmatic on that front.
so the PA covers my aero needs. but lets see where this foray into the strike takes me. i had a really fun session with it yesterday. really had such a great time with the precision it gave me. \
to bridge the gap im thinking a gut poly hyb will be a good way to do that.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
The only way I can describe the Ezone is that it's fusion of the Strike and APD13 with the Yonex feel. And yeah, that harsh, crisp feel is pretty cool from the Bab tweeners but the Pure Strike doesn't really have that. It's a lot more muted, more than the Ezone 100 for me. At least with poly, in the Ezone 100 I can feel everything the ball is doing.
Yeah, it's definitely more muted but there's still something really familiar
@pyrokid
thats funny. we are having a pretty similar experience with the strike. what a racquet. ill try and bridge the gap between the power of it and the aeros.
an obvious way to go is to do a gut poly hybrid,. im thinking vs16 mains @50 and poly cross 17 @47.
but man what a precise feeling.
one thing is for sure. im an L4 grip. i have been using L3 usually. but im 6"1 and have pretty large hands. and i was subconsciously searching for more grip.
and the L4 has given me more stability with my grip. i use a sw forehand grip, and getting into that grip position with the L4 is more pronounced and easily found. within a split second as it is supposed to.
that has been an issue with any of the racquets that i have tried to use.
even the PA which is a Babolat has a slightly diff grip shape than the strike. the strike feels more pronounced. and yes of course i use the same base grip. syntec feel previously named skin feel.
the one stick that stuck out to me that is a non Babolat that if i was able to get used to the grip shape would have been a real contender .. is the speed 360+ MP. that is a frame and a half. goldilocks frame.
but anyway. the strike is a superb frame. gives me such a great and precise feeling off all wings.
I've heard similar things about the speed from someone else somewhere on here, I think they said it was a strike but with better feel. I just never true dit out because every time someone tells me "it's a Babolat with better feel" it comes with the secret hidden downside of also having less pop.
 

n80aoag

Rookie
So, my Gravity Tour that was supposed to arrive yesterday while I was home and the wife was out, arrived today while I was out and the wife was home.

Oops.

Still, looking forward to getting her strung up and tested against my TT310s...
Many of us can relate, had a good chuckle to myself with this one
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
How do the second gen Strikes compare to the third gen?

I keep searching but the P17 instead of gen 2 thing made keywording tricky on me
 
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haqq777

Legend
How do the second gen Strikes compare to the third gen?

I keep searchimg but the P17 thing made keywording tricky on me
The second gen was more crisper playing. The feel is more dampened on 3rd gen. They have what they call C2 Feel tech at 3 and 9 on the newer ones which gives it that more muted sort of feedback. They swing a bit heavier too compared to 2nd gen, at least the 16x19. Not sure about 100 or the 18x20.

The P17 was the nickname for 16x19 pattern Pure Strike. They launched it as Project One Seven (hence the nickname). The 18x20 and 100 were just called Pure Strike 18x20 or Pure Strike 100, from what I know.
 

sanister

Professional
How do the second gen Strikes compare to the third gen?

I keep searching but the P17 instead of gen 2 thing made keywording tricky on me
I loved how second gen P17 played for me. It just gave me arm pain even after I had gut mains & poly crosse. I'm old so didn't want to take any chances but if it doesn't hurt your arm, go for it. It plays so good! Newer ones are supposed to play softer & more muted & feel more refined to me. TW testers say that somewhat too.
 

pyrokid

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The second gen was more crisper playing. The feel is more dampened on 3rd gen. They have what they call C2 Feel tech at 3 and 9 on the newer ones which gives it that more muted feedback. They swing a bit heavier too compared to 2nd gen.
Any idea if they were crisper because they were stiffer, or because they just weren't as damped?
 

AA7

Professional
Finally got to play with ezone 100 today strung with hyper g 17g 50/48.
First of all the racket is very very comfortable for 69ra. I was really surprised as i was expecting something stiffer. The feel was also great. Little muted which i like but definitely connected at the same time..
As far as performance... control is also great. Very predictable.. it sends the ball where you are aiming.. no wild bounces or launches at all. I have been hitting with heavier and higher sw rackets so timing took me a little bit to adjust. Ton of power...oddly enough likes to drive the ball more than it likes to spin it i though.. you can definitely flatten the ball. I would say you get better performance thru flat hitting even which works for me. Spectacular performance in a light package. I have a lot of rackets in the rotation at the moment unfortunately.. but ezone100 will be in the shortlist. @JOSHL you must have gotten either a lemon or that damn string in it may have messed things up. Also no issues for ohbh'enders. Really like this one. @gutfeeling.. you may want to give this one a shot too..it may fix that stability issues you had with the 98.
I only hit with an hour so will need more time with it. This only makes things harder.. argghh..i need to settle on a racket soon and focus on the damn game..
 

gutfeeling

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Finally got to play with ezone 100 today strung with hyper g 17g 50/48.
First of all the racket is very very comfortable for 69ra. I was really surprised as i was expecting something stiffer. The feel was also great. Little muted which i like but definitely connected at the same time..
As far as performance... control is also great. Very predictable.. it sends the ball where you are aiming.. no wild bounces or launches at all. I have been hitting with heavier and higher sw rackets so timing took me a little bit to adjust. Ton of power...oddly enough likes to drive the ball more than it likes to spin it i though.. you can definitely flatten the ball. I would say you get better performance thru flat hitting even which works for me. Spectacular performance in a light package. I have a lot of rackets in the rotation at the moment unfortunately.. but ezone100 will be in the shortlist. @JOSHL you must have gotten either a lemon or that damn string in it may have messed things up. Also no issues for ohbh'enders. Really like this one. @gutfeeling.. you may want to give this one a shot too..it may fix that stability issues you had with the 98.
I only hit with an hour so will need more time with it. This only makes things harder.. argghh..i need to settle on a racket soon and focus on the damn game..
Nice! I’m going to do a H2H between the 98 Tour and 98L with weight added first. If I’m not convinced by either I’ll pick up a 100. Or maybe I will regardless :p.
 
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ryushen21

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Finally got to play with ezone 100 today strung with hyper g 17g 50/48.
First of all the racket is very very comfortable for 69ra. I was really surprised as i was expecting something stiffer. The feel was also great. Little muted which i like but definitely connected at the same time..
As far as performance... control is also great. Very predictable.. it sends the ball where you are aiming.. no wild bounces or launches at all. I have been hitting with heavier and higher sw rackets so timing took me a little bit to adjust. Ton of power...oddly enough likes to drive the ball more than it likes to spin it i though.. you can definitely flatten the ball. I would say you get better performance thru flat hitting even which works for me. Spectacular performance in a light package. I have a lot of rackets in the rotation at the moment unfortunately.. but ezone100 will be in the shortlist. @JOSHL you must have gotten either a lemon or that damn string in it may have messed things up. Also no issues for ohbh'enders. Really like this one. @gutfeeling.. you may want to give this one a shot too..it may fix that stability issues you had with the 98.
I only hit with an hour so will need more time with it. This only makes things harder.. argghh..i need to settle on a racket soon and focus on the damn game..
Those are some solid first impressions and that seems to confirm why I was thinking this would be a good frame for me.

Did you feel like the muted feeling was from the frame itself or from the string? Also, no overpowering issues with the string at that tension?

I'm still scouring everywhere I can think of to see I can find myself a pair of these. I want to hit with Hyper G in comparison to S7T.
 

gutfeeling

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So, I have just bought an Extreme Tour. Any recommended setups? I was thinking about going either Grey Fire or Lynx Tour @ 52/49 lbs, which is my usual tension. I’ve been playing with Element @ 54/51 on these hot days, so I was hoping that the tension difference in tension would compensate for the slightly stiffer string.
There’s also a good chance I’ll add some lead to the hoop in order to bring the SW to ~330...
Lynx Tour 1.25 silver played great in the ET for me. It has a similar controlled response as Tour Bite 1.25 but it is more muted. Firm and comfortable. I also recommend adding weight to the hoop so SW is close to 325-330.
 

danbrenner

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The second gen was more crisper playing. The feel is more dampened on 3rd gen. They have what they call C2 Feel tech at 3 and 9 on the newer ones which gives it that more muted sort of feedback. They swing a bit heavier too compared to 2nd gen, at least the 16x19. Not sure about 100 or the 18x20.

The P17 was the nickname for 16x19 pattern Pure Strike. They launched it as Project One Seven (hence the nickname). The 18x20 and 100 were just called Pure Strike 18x20 or Pure Strike 100, from what I know.
I think the project one seven. Is based on the year it was made. 17. 2017.
 

AA7

Professional
Did you feel like the muted feeling was from the frame itself or from the string? Also, no overpowering issues with the string at that tension?
Those are very good questions..
Hyper-g definitely has that feeling where it mutes things and it could be that. It is very likely actually now that you mentioned. You can definitely crisp it with s7t..or tour sniper.
2nd question. Yeah i may try and up the tension but i did not have overpowering issues and i dont have rhs issues.. i swing away.
My issue is/(was more so in the past) forgetting to square stance and lean into the shot.. before my coach nailed into my head i was almost always semi open to open which is perfectly fine but i had that bad habit of moving the left leg back rather than then front (into the shot). basically moving my body weight away from the shot.. not only sucks the power out of the shot but it also launches too high and to the fence when you swing away. If you hit proper this racket will do you justice. Basically cant ask for more.. it will not screw you over with launch etc...
 

Vicious49

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This only makes things harder.. argghh..i need to settle on a racket soon and focus on the damn game..
i think I’ve pretty much settled in to what Im going to roll with for awhile. I’m going to keep 2 UT and 2 UP 16m in my bag and use one or the other as my main based on how I’m feeling that day. I will carry 1 GPro as well for those times where I want some extra forgiveness and power.

So now it’s basically time to start messing with a few different strings to see which I prefer in each frame.
 

ryushen21

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Those are very good questions..
Hyper-g definitely has that feeling where it mutes things and it could be that. It is very likely actually now that you mentioned. You can definitely crisp it with s7t..or tour sniper.
2nd question. Yeah i may try and up the tension but i did not have overpowering issues and i dont have rhs issues.. i swing away.
My issue is/(was more so in the past) forgetting to square stance and lean into the shot.. before my coach nailed into my head i was almost always semi open to open which is perfectly fine but i had that bad habit of moving the left leg back rather than then front (into the shot). basically moving my body weight away from the shot.. not only sucks the power out of the shot but it also launches too high and to the fence when you swing away. If you hit proper this racket will do you justice. Basically cant ask for more.. it will not screw you over with launch etc...
I appreciate the feedback. How did you find the launch angle with this racquet? Is it noticeably higher or is it relatively low considering it's a 16x19 pattern?
 
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