Diary of a Racketaholic

JGads

Legend
Congrats! here is a pretty solid video review to get you prepped.

Saw that. I find it funny that when he's casually hitting he's hitting all these spinny floaters, but when he's in point play he's able to whip and flatten the ball out. At first I was worried the UP was a Steam with feel, but enough people who's opinion I trust are having a great go of it. Excited to try it. Should get it in a week to ten days, knock on wood. The used one is strung with a NatGut hybrid, the new one I'll string up with full poly, probably that set of Hyper G 16 I have.
 
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t_pac

Semi-Pro
Just ordered two more Igas (O3 version) in grip size 3 along with heat shrink sleeves to bring them up to 310 specs, grip size 4 (was significantly cheaper than buying the 310s).

Now eyeing up the Prince Phantom bag...
 

skeeter

Professional
So the smp is basically a morph of a gravity and a strike. It’s got a really clean 23mm straight beam that feels amazing to the hands. But yet the beam has that modern babolat constructed feel to it. Unlike the gravity which is more blade ish. So if you’re a fan of the babolat / strikes. You will love the smp. If you are more of a blade fan then I would recommend the gravity over the smp.
the head has nice heft and plow without needing a gram of lead. This is a pick up and play stick. Again. Not one gram of lead is needed in this frame. The flex is Goldilocks I think it’s like 65. String spacing is what I would call a standard progressive Perfect
A little more open than a strike. With 6 mains a j the throat. But not like a PA. More like the apd. Power is there in spades. My only gripe with any head racquet is the grip shape.
But that is my own issue and shouldn’t matter to anyone but me. And just for fun I have one coming to me next week. In a 4 1/2. Just to see if the larger size can help my issue. Because I have gone up a size in all of my sticks. In no longer using 3/8. Too small for me. So all in all this to me is the best head racquet I have ever tried.
How did the somewhat higher SW(listed at 328) feel on the SMP? Noticeable or helpful? Also, looks like there are 8 mains in the throat? Or maybe I'm just looking at it weird.
 

PT280 Fan

Semi-Pro
How can it be wrong to mix and match? In the past 6 months I've acquired four frames (2 new Beast 98's and 2 like new Pro One GTs) and have been juggling those along with my trusty PT280. Now today, I found a holy grail (Prince Response 97) and closed the deal with a fellow forumite. Geesh and I'm officially a Senior (still working another year) what's wrong with me?

But anyway, I always feel accepted around here. Thanks for making me feel normal (y)
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
How did the somewhat higher SW(listed at 328) feel on the SMP? Noticeable or helpful? Also, looks like there are 8 mains in the throat? Or maybe I'm just looking at it weird.
Hey. You’re right. 8 mains. But they are more spread than the usual 8 main throat. So much so that I thought it was a 6.
the weight and swing weight are perfect. Just the perfect amount of heft.
ots an excellent frame
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Was really looking forward to the demo of Iga 310, but it came strung with some Prince synthetic gut spaghetti. I can move the center mains 3/4" with my fingers. Feels like low 40s, upper 30s. A shame really.

Too late to hit by the time UPS dropped the box but did a little cul-de-sac hitting (no net) just some casual 'peeling' to get a general feel of things. The extra swing weight on the TT 100 310, compared to the older 100T, is just what this frame needed, but that string bed is launch city. It's irritating and one reason I don't like demoing. Got the sense I'd probably like the 290 better with a little handle weight. Just seems the lighter version would be more dynamic and versatile.

The V1 Pro felt like an old friend (I could add a leather grip and be heavily persuaded by this one), but I was surprised by the balanced feel of the Gravity MP. Very smooth through the air and very predictable response and trajectory off the strings. I was expecting something much more muted, but it's very comfortable and just direct enough.

We'll see if any of this translates to the court, hopefully tomorrow evening. These demos aren't even for me. I'm looking for my son's next racquet, but it'll be interesting to experiment with more forgiving, 'easier' frames. Who knows, one might stick.
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
So the Extreme Tour first impressions (thanks again @gutfeeling). I'm going to try my best not to compare to the EZ100. That comes later.

Man, I really missed that good old TK82 grip shape. I know, I'm weird like that.

The first thing that I noticed when hitting with the racquet is that it has a very nice swing feel to it. Not too heavy, not too light, and pretty close to that Goldilocks zone. The second thing that I noticed what the frame was a little pingy. I'm going to chalk that up to the fact that it's a fresh string job and a stiffer frame. This thing is truly a baseliner's dream. It hits a damn good ball. My coach told me that there was significantly more spin on my forehand that more shots were dropping in. Even with that added spin, I still felt that I was able to drive the ball the way that I wanted to. The contact feel is definitely a different experience than I am used to because I get the throat flex in the frame but very little hoop flex. I could tell that the shots were coming off the strings livelier and faster but I did not get the grabby pocketing feel like with other Head frames that I have used. But, when you drive the ball it feels exceptionally clean. And this frame loves a good brushy forehand too.

My recent switch to the 2HBH is still taking some work but I definitely found some confidence in it with this frame. My coach hit to my backhand side expecting me to default back to the 1HBH and I hit a very lucky DTL shot. I found the frame to come through the shot fast and aggressive to really drive the ball but still imparting a good amount of spin. I did not try out the slice tonight but I'm optimistic for it when I get back out on the courts.

At the net, I found some instability on shots. Nothing that brings significant concern because I think it's a combination of it being a 3/8 grip and my own adjusting to actually playing shots at the net. Further practice will likely see improvement on that front. If not, a little dash of lead at 3/9 should fix it right up.

That was all I worked on today. But I can say that I like this racquet it a lot. It's an interesting contender against the EZone. The EZone feels better but for some reason, I felt more confident swinging bigger with the Extreme. I need to hurry up and acquire an EZone 100 and get it strung up similarly for a direct comparison.
 

esm

Hall of Fame
So the Extreme Tour first impressions (thanks again @gutfeeling). I'm going to try my best not to compare to the EZ100. That comes later.

Man, I really missed that good old TK82 grip shape. I know, I'm weird like that.

The first thing that I noticed when hitting with the racquet is that it has a very nice swing feel to it. Not too heavy, not too light, and pretty close to that Goldilocks zone. The second thing that I noticed what the frame was a little pingy. I'm going to chalk that up to the fact that it's a fresh string job and a stiffer frame. This thing is truly a baseliner's dream. It hits a damn good ball. My coach told me that there was significantly more spin on my forehand that more shots were dropping in. Even with that added spin, I still felt that I was able to drive the ball the way that I wanted to. The contact feel is definitely a different experience than I am used to because I get the throat flex in the frame but very little hoop flex. I could tell that the shots were coming off the strings livelier and faster but I did not get the grabby pocketing feel like with other Head frames that I have used. But, when you drive the ball it feels exceptionally clean. And this frame loves a good brushy forehand too.

My recent switch to the 2HBH is still taking some work but I definitely found some confidence in it with this frame. My coach hit to my backhand side expecting me to default back to the 1HBH and I hit a very lucky DTL shot. I found the frame to come through the shot fast and aggressive to really drive the ball but still imparting a good amount of spin. I did not try out the slice tonight but I'm optimistic for it when I get back out on the courts.

At the net, I found some instability on shots. Nothing that brings significant concern because I think it's a combination of it being a 3/8 grip and my own adjusting to actually playing shots at the net. Further practice will likely see improvement on that front. If not, a little dash of lead at 3/9 should fix it right up.

That was all I worked on today. But I can say that I like this racquet it a lot. It's an interesting contender against the EZone. The EZone feels better but for some reason, I felt more confident swinging bigger with the Extreme. I need to hurry up and acquire an EZone 100 and get it strung up similarly for a direct comparison.
i think i read somewhere that the ET is very close to Pure Strike..... :X3:
(or was i dreaming :alien:)
 

Faris

Professional
So the Extreme Tour first impressions (thanks again @gutfeeling). I'm going to try my best not to compare to the EZ100. That comes later.

Man, I really missed that good old TK82 grip shape. I know, I'm weird like that.

The first thing that I noticed when hitting with the racquet is that it has a very nice swing feel to it. Not too heavy, not too light, and pretty close to that Goldilocks zone. The second thing that I noticed what the frame was a little pingy. I'm going to chalk that up to the fact that it's a fresh string job and a stiffer frame. This thing is truly a baseliner's dream. It hits a damn good ball. My coach told me that there was significantly more spin on my forehand that more shots were dropping in. Even with that added spin, I still felt that I was able to drive the ball the way that I wanted to. The contact feel is definitely a different experience than I am used to because I get the throat flex in the frame but very little hoop flex. I could tell that the shots were coming off the strings livelier and faster but I did not get the grabby pocketing feel like with other Head frames that I have used. But, when you drive the ball it feels exceptionally clean. And this frame loves a good brushy forehand too.

My recent switch to the 2HBH is still taking some work but I definitely found some confidence in it with this frame. My coach hit to my backhand side expecting me to default back to the 1HBH and I hit a very lucky DTL shot. I found the frame to come through the shot fast and aggressive to really drive the ball but still imparting a good amount of spin. I did not try out the slice tonight but I'm optimistic for it when I get back out on the courts.

At the net, I found some instability on shots. Nothing that brings significant concern because I think it's a combination of it being a 3/8 grip and my own adjusting to actually playing shots at the net. Further practice will likely see improvement on that front. If not, a little dash of lead at 3/9 should fix it right up.

That was all I worked on today. But I can say that I like this racquet it a lot. It's an interesting contender against the EZone. The EZone feels better but for some reason, I felt more confident swinging bigger with the Extreme. I need to hurry up and acquire an EZone 100 and get it strung up similarly for a direct comparison.
Just wanted to say thats a pretty awesome review..
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
Oh, I think many of us did. But remember: this here thread is not about shame, but a triumphant celebration of obsession and stupidity.
haha no one bought that for a second bud :-D :-D
They actually are for my son, but if I was gonna change my ways, it won't be for a week or so:p Fortunately, his tastes in racquets seem to square with mine, so the bender continues ... And these three promise to be very good. This category of modern player/tweener has come a long way in just a few years. They're using voodoo on these sticks. When a V1 Pro at 69 stiffness has similar feel and is as plush as a 62RA Gravity MP, something's up. Kinda like the EZONE 100 reputation. Best of both worlds era of frames it would appear.
 
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ryushen21

Hall of Fame
I managed to sneak a quick round with the ball machine and do some serve practice with the ET this morning.

I may be even more impressed now with this frame handles groundies. Solid, crisp response on both sides. There is a slightly higher launch angle than I'm used to but nothing that puts shots in danger of going long. For a more powerful frame than I'm used to, it appreciates a nice full swing. While it can drive a ball well, it seems really to shine with a more vertical stroke to exaggerate the spin action. I'm not a super brushy hitter most of the time but I was surprised by the depth and spin I could produce on the forehand side. This morning, the backhand was the real standout for me. In the past, I've always struggled for depth with a 2HBH but this frame provides it with ease. All of my shots were easily landing within a foot or two of the baseline. While I was missing some of that pinpoint accuracy, I didn't miss it that badly because of the court penetration that I was getting.

The slice is still not quite where I would like it to be. I found myself floating more balls high than that nice low skidding trajectory that I'm used to. I'd chalk 90% of those up to poor execution on my part but the well-hit ones still were lacking some of that action that I'm accustomed to. I have to wonder if I'm holding back on the slice though. I want to think that I'm hitting it the same as usual, but I still might be a little timid with this frame.

Serves proved to be another high point with this frame. Not quite as much pop as with the Ezone but they still had that extra zip compared to the UT which is always appreciated. With a little adjustment, the first serve will be extremely potent. But the second serve with this frame is extremely nasty. I noticed some extra action on my kickserve that gave some additional lateral movement. I can't wait to try it out against some partners and in matches.

At this point, it is definitely game on between the ET and EZ.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
@ryushen21 1. I love that you are playing solid ball with this frame stock. I had the same impression when I first hit it, like wow can a 320 gram, 315 SW frame that's not 100% tween really do that? Ok ET I see you. 2. I love all the mental notes you are taking while you are on the court because these are the nuances that guide potential modifications that make a good frame really good. For me a few grams in the hoop went a long way in terms of adding stability (and even more plow) which helped on volleys, slices, and returns. That and dialing in on the stringbed stiffness with different gauges and tensions. Good stuff brotha!
 
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esm

Hall of Fame
@AA7 @t_pac
gents - quick q - the TT290/310... i have been looking around and have seen TT290 version 2018 and version 2019. the spec looks the same - are there any major differences?
it seems the 2018 is "cheaper" than the 2019, so it is a no brainer if it is only a PJ change. thanks
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
@ryushen21 1. I love that you are playing solid ball with this frame stock. I had the same impression when I first hit it, like wow can a 320 gram, 315 SW frame that's not 100% tween really do that? Ok ET I see you. 2. I love all the mental notes you are taking while you are on the court because these are the nuances that guide potential modifications that make a good frame really good. For me a few grams in the hoop went a long way in terms of adding stability (and even more plow) which helped on volleys, slices, and returns. That and dialing in on the stringbed stiffness with different gauges and tensions. Good stuff brotha!
Now that I've had a good couple of hours hitting with it, I'm expecting the tension to start dropping. I think that is going to open up some additional nuances to the frame once the stringbed starts to settle. But now I'm really on the hunt to find an EZone so I can hit them side by side.
 

t_pac

Semi-Pro
@AA7 @t_pac
gents - quick q - the TT290/310... i have been looking around and have seen TT290 version 2018 and version 2019. the spec looks the same - are there any major differences?
it seems the 2018 is "cheaper" than the 2019, so it is a no brainer if it is only a PJ change. thanks
The cheaper one will be the previous model without Twaron, and a lower RA. I've only used the new versions, I would imagine they'll feel quite different.
 
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esm

Hall of Fame
The cheaper one will be the previous model without Twaron, and a lower RA. I've only used the new versions, I would imagine they'll feel quite different.
lol - thanks for that, i now understand the difference between the 2018 and 2019 versions.
(i probably sounded like a cheapskate only wanted to buy the cheaper one... :-D)
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
so i have a 5/8 pa coming in. when i figure out if that is better for my game than my 1/2. .
i will also get a pavs as my 98 inch option.
AS A POINT OF INTEREST FOR MY FELLOW HOLICS
the grip shape of the pa is different to other Babos.
especially the diff bet the pa and the strike. the strike is more squared. prince ish.
and the pa is more rectangular. and my hand/palm really gels with the pa. the other lines are a little more of a struggle for me.
so for those reasons. im really going to concentrate on the PA. and like i said vs once is settle on which size. its looking like 5/8.
i played my best level tennis last week with the 1/2 but with 2 super graps. hence forth the need to try the 5/8 w one og.
 

JGads

Legend
@AA7 @t_pac
gents - quick q - the TT290/310... i have been looking around and have seen TT290 version 2018 and version 2019. the spec looks the same - are there any major differences?
it seems the 2018 is "cheaper" than the 2019, so it is a no brainer if it is only a PJ change. thanks
One 'major' difference indeed: a RG trophy.
 

AA7

Professional
Everytime I see an AA7 post I await the Iga Ezone 100 comparison posts.:unsure:
ha! coming coming.. my bad.. couple of complications man...

1) I think Iga came in low SW (318sw) and ezone 100 came in really high SW (330sw)... i think... I will double-check with RDC today... I figured this out last night... and been obsessing about going to stringer today.. SW is fine in itself (I can fix Iga easy) but this is going to muddy waters a bit. I really wanted the ezone 100 to be low 320s... that was the beauty of it. I hope I measured wrong. Does it feel 330sw?? uhhmm maybe.. i can't completely rule it out.. i expected it to be little bit more whippy/maneuverable.
2) Been raining here 4 days straight... relentless...
3) I may play indoors Sunday but there have been some case spikes here... wife is getting paranoid etc... trying to convince her that tennis is more important than anything else :-D
4) It just dawned on me that if things get worse this winter.. i may lose my mind with no tennis for like 3 to 4 months.. i really hope it gets under control...anyways.. totally different topic...
 

JGads

Legend
ha! coming coming.. my bad.. couple of complications man...

1) I think Iga came in low SW (318sw) and ezone 100 came in really high SW (330sw)... i think... I will double-check with RDC today... I figured this out last night... and been obsessing about going to stringer today.. SW is fine in itself (I can fix Iga easy) but this is going to muddy waters a bit. I really wanted the ezone 100 to be low 320s... that was the beauty of it. I hope I measured wrong. Does it feel 330sw?? uhhmm maybe.. i can't completely rule it out.. i expected it to be little bit more whippy/maneuverable.
2) Been raining here 4 days straight... relentless...
3) I may play indoors Sunday but there have been some case spikes here... wife is getting paranoid etc... trying to convince her that tennis is more important than anything else :-D
4) It just dawned on me that if things get worse this winter.. i may lose my mind with no tennis for like 3 to 4 months.. i really hope it gets under control...anyways.. totally different topic...
I heard that four out of five scientists agree that a good forehand knocks Covid right off the ball.
 

AA7

Professional
@AA7 @t_pac
gents - quick q - the TT290/310... i have been looking around and have seen TT290 version 2018 and version 2019. the spec looks the same - are there any major differences?
it seems the 2018 is "cheaper" than the 2019, so it is a no brainer if it is only a PJ change. thanks
real answer is definitely this:
One 'major' difference indeed: a RG trophy.
But technical mumbo-jumbo answer is this:
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
ha! coming coming.. my bad.. couple of complications man...

1) I think Iga came in low SW (318sw) and ezone 100 came in really high SW (330sw)... i think... I will double-check with RDC today... I figured this out last night... and been obsessing about going to stringer today.. SW is fine in itself (I can fix Iga easy) but this is going to muddy waters a bit. I really wanted the ezone 100 to be low 320s... that was the beauty of it. I hope I measured wrong. Does it feel 330sw?? uhhmm maybe.. i can't completely rule it out.. i expected it to be little bit more whippy/maneuverable.
2) Been raining here 4 days straight... relentless...
3) I may play indoors Sunday but there have been some case spikes here... wife is getting paranoid etc... trying to convince her that tennis is more important than anything else :-D
4) It just dawned on me that if things get worse this winter.. i may lose my mind with no tennis for like 3 to 4 months.. i really hope it gets under control...anyways.. totally different topic...
Hmmm..I can honestly say I dont think mine is 330, I'd put it at 323-325 with full poly string job. It should swing nice and fast for you. Is the static weight and balance on spec?
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
That is quite a discrepancy from TW it would seem. Either most in their sample were around the 325 mark (or whatever they list) or some were pushing 330 with others in Prince's listed range. Sounds like they got a batch of late Friday or early Monday frames from Prince:-D
 

AA7

Professional
Hmmm..I can honestly say I dont think mine is 330, I'd put it at 323-325 with full poly string job. It should swing nice and fast for you. Is the static weight and balance on spec?
yes balance and weight are dead on (33cm and 325gr with tourna OG and yonex dampener which adds up to about 8 to 10grams or so.. so yeah. i am on spec, which makes it unlikely that SW is that high... i think I probably had a measuring fck up.. i am running to the stringer shortly anyways..
 

AA7

Professional
That is quite a discrepancy from TW it would seem. Either most in their sample were around the 325 mark (or whatever they list) or some were pushing 330 with others in Prince's listed range. Sounds like they got a batch of late Friday or early Monday frames from Prince:-D
yes so Prince actually prints Swingweight on the racket... IGA is 285 and 310 is 290 unstrung SW on the racket. if you look at TW website.. 310 average is 322 and Iga is 325 (which is insane.... as it's 3SW pts higher than 310 with 20gr less static weight) but my Iga's static weight was fine and balance was too head light as well.. now that I am thinking.. i think my measurements probably all had about about 5 SW high bias to them... everything measured a little high I think.. that is why I am going to the stringer.. i need to know or no sleep for me this weekend. :X3:
 

Vicious49

Semi-Pro
Interesting result from my hitting session yesterday against heavy spin guy. He had the new Head Speed Pro but recently switched to the new Pure Drive. I asked him which racquet he thought he was getting the most RHS from and his answer was my PSv13 that he had just hit with earlier. Even though the PD is a bit lighter he thought the smaller head size combined with the shape of the frame allowed him to swing the PS through the air faster. He had to put my PS down as he said he didn't want to have to switch again. :-D
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
yes balance and weight are dead on (33cm and 325gr with tourna OG and yonex dampener which adds up to about 8 to 10grams or so.. so yeah. i am on spec, which makes it unlikely that SW is that high... i think I probably had a measuring fck up.. i am running to the stringer shortly anyways..
youre good to go. Is it silver 7? Interested in what the rdc says.
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
yes so Prince actually prints Swingweight on the racket... IGA is 285 and 310 is 290 unstrung SW on the racket. if you look at TW website.. 310 average is 322 and Iga is 325 (which is insane.... as it's 3SW pts higher than 310 with 20gr less static weight) but my Iga's static weight was fine and balance was too head light as well.. now that I am thinking.. i think my measurements probably all had about about 5 SW high bias to them... everything measured a little high I think.. that is why I am going to the stringer.. i need to know or no sleep for me this weekend. :X3:
Always better under than over, but it can be a hassle, especially when your goal was to just weight the handle. At some point down the dark trail of Iga modification, the Twaron Pizza emerges.
 

gutfeeling

Hall of Fame
that is why I am going to the stringer.. i need to know or no sleep for me this weekend. :X3:
I know the feeling...a few more sleepless nights and before you know it a diagnostics machine and constant pull stringer will find their way into your house :p.
 
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Vicious49

Semi-Pro
My holic-ing days for the time being are over. I'm pretty happy with my UT/UP combo. I have the PT2.0 which is a fun racquet just to hit with. I do want a Gravity Pro on days where I want a bit more forgiveness but have the PSv13 for now. I may eventually make that switch but am not in a rush to (mainly because the PSv13 looks much better than the GPro to me and that racquet won't get used all that much). Any more messing around would just lead to more confusion. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Update on the S7T that I tried in one of my UT - It is more 'crisp' I guess. To me it didn't feel as soft and it didn't feel like the balls stayed on the strings as long. I could also feel more vibration on each shot. So for me I still prefer the Hyper G.
 

JGads

Legend
yes so Prince actually prints Swingweight on the racket... IGA is 285 and 310 is 290 unstrung SW on the racket. if you look at TW website.. 310 average is 322 and Iga is 325 (which is insane.... as it's 3SW pts higher than 310 with 20gr less static weight) but my Iga's static weight was fine and balance was too head light as well.. now that I am thinking.. i think my measurements probably all had about about 5 SW high bias to them... everything measured a little high I think.. that is why I am going to the stringer.. i need to know or no sleep for me this weekend. :X3:
Interesting. SW felt like it's mid 320s for my Iga. I put just a touch of lead at 12 once I added all the handleweight. Feels high 320s or 330ish max now. But this is all a guess on my end. Curious what the stringer tells you.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
My holic-ing days for the time being are over. I'm pretty happy with my UT/UP combo. I have the PT2.0 which is a fun racquet just to hit with. I do want a Gravity Pro on days where I want a bit more forgiveness but have the PSv13 for now. I may eventually make that switch but am not in a rush to (mainly because the PSv13 looks much better than the GPro to me and that racquet won't get used all that much). Any more messing around would just lead to more confusion. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Update on the S7T that I tried in one of my UT - It is more 'crisp' I guess. To me it didn't feel as soft and it didn't feel like the balls stayed on the strings as long. I could also feel more vibration on each shot. So for me I still prefer the Hyper G.
s7t is not soft and its supposed to have less pocketing, like alu or a similar string. So that makes sense. It works in the ut because the frame is soft and pockets the ball so s7t compliments that.You could hybrid it with hyper g.
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
change of plans. just noticed that the 21 pd. has more standard spacing like the old pa's.
its on order. in 5/8 game on. nice this is a bit of a game changer.
 

topspn

Legend
Goodness gracious, it may take me up to 3 weeks to get my XStrike from down under. I hope at least with the surge, indoor tennis stays open or I’m screwed for the winter
 
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