Diary of a Racketaholic

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
No, why ?
Well, you come in attempting to espouse the virtues of the PAVS over the PA and claim it as the superior frame. And while you are entitled to your opinion, as we all are, the overwhelming consensus is that the PA is a better feeling and better performing frame for the majority of players.

So, why not just express your preference for the PAVS instead of making a claim of its superiority?

Considering the collective knowledge and experience of the posters in this thread, you aren't likely to change any minds.
 
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taylor15

Professional
I hit briefly with my partners 360+ Prestige Tour yesterday. It's a frame I had never considered hitting even though he's used the Touch Tour since I've known him. He just picked it up recently and I decided I needed to try it out. It's an interesting frame to be part of the prestige line, and the 18x19 pattern is cool. Overall it was a good do-everything frame, and would probably be something to look at if you were interested in a VCore pro 100 or the fabled new 6.1 100.
 

Boubi

Semi-Pro
Well, you come in attempting to espose the virtues of the PAVS over the PA and claim it as the superior frame. And while you are entitled to your opinion, as we all are, the overwhelming consensus is that the PA is a better feeling and better performing frame for the majority of players.

So, why not just express your preference for the PAVS instead of making a claim of its superiority?

Considering the collective knowledge and experience of the posters in this thread, you aren't likely to change any minds.
I do not discuss the superiority of the PA for average and recreational players but at a better level it's not precise enough
But as you say, recreational is the vast majority of players
 

JGads

Legend
I do not discuss the superiority of the PA for average and recreational players but at a better level it's not precise enough
But as you say, recreational is the vast majority of players
Not here to get into a back and forth on this as I'm not a Bab guy either way, but for what it's worth on the pro level there seems to be exponentially more PAs being played than the PAVS. In fact I can only think of Alcaraz playing the Vs. Anyway, I'd be very into the ideaof the PAVs but it seems so many have reported having arm issues with it and not with the standard PA. For us mortals, this is probably more important.
 
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danbrenner

Hall of Fame
I do not discuss the superiority of the PA for average and recreational players but at a better level it's not precise enough
But as you say, recreational is the vast majority of players
No we agree with you 100%.
So you should email Querrey and J Brady among a few others as to the obvious mistake they are making.
 

ryushen21

Hall of Fame
I do not discuss the superiority of the PA for average and recreational players but at a better level it's not precise enough
But as you say, recreational is the vast majority of players
That is just objectively wrong and can not be substantiated in any way.
 

snoflewis

Hall of Fame
That is just objectively wrong and can not be substantiated in any way.
he claims to be a 5.5, so most of us probably can't relate. but at the same time...it's good enough for the pros

the only other proclaimed 5.5 i've seen from this forum is me :-D. i once hit with a guy from these boards claiming to be 5.0, and he said i had to be at least a 5.5 after i beat him 6-1. sounds like i'm closer to being a 6.0 than a certain individual in the tips and instructions section!
 
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ryushen21

Hall of Fame
he claims to be a 5.5, so most of us probably can't relate. but at the same time...it's good enough for the pros

the only other proclaimed 5.5 i've seen from this forum is me :-D. i once hit with a guy from these boards claiming to be 5.0, and he said i had to be at least a 5.5 after i beat him 6-1. sounds like i'm closer to being a 6.0 than a certain individual in the tips and instructions section!
Ah, a classic case of the TTW 5.5 player. I'll stick with being an honest schmuck.
 

Ryebread

Semi-Pro
I owned the Pure Aero VS in the summer time.
I played with the Pure Aero for 8-10 hours in the past week or so.


2020/current PAVS vs 2019/current PA:

The VS is not as stable. I'm not sure what the stats will say, but the feeling on court, it's not even close.
The VS hoop is the issue here.

The VS has a more hollow feel, and feels stiffer on my 45YO joints

The VS is a bit more HL
The PA will produce a much stronger 2HBH

The VS (98) has a smaller sweet spot than the (100) PA

The VS is about the same weight as the PA, but it whips through the air much faster.
Still, they are both bombers for serve. But the PA wins here.

Overall, the VS should have had more goodness than the PA, but in a 98. But that is not what we got. It's a weird offering IMO.
 

Vicious49

Professional
If you wear a motorcycle helmet, you can modify the static weight and become the traveljam of headgear modification. And i mean this as an honorary thing. Plus it would protect from getting plastered at the net if you want to work on S&V.
I actually did nail a guy in the face playing doubles a week or two ago. It wasn't intentional but I'm also not that upset about it as my job is to make you back off the net a bit and keep you honest.
 

tim-ay

Professional
I actually did nail a guy in the face playing doubles a week or two ago. It wasn't intentional but I'm also not that upset about it as my job is to make you back off the net a bit and keep you honest.
This is why I break out my Schuberth if I ever have a weak moment and play doubles with a person with a crap second serve.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
great video. i had not seen this one before. shes killing it with the pa.
and the cool thing here is that she used to use both the pd and ps. so coming from her its a real reinforcement for the pa.
It was Alex, Simon and BMS’s reviews that convinced me to try the PA and after playing with it, I felt their reviews are spot on.
 

tim-ay

Professional
I should add - I tried the ripstick last night with GS Alpha. I was really on and liked that setup. It’s weird, Alpha seems to do better in frames with some flex. I was looking forward to hitting that again tonight to see if it was ‘real’ but it rained.
 

AA7

Professional
I should add - I tried the ripstick last night with GS Alpha. I was really on and liked that setup. It’s weird, Alpha seems to do better in frames with some flex. I was looking forward to hitting that again tonight to see if it was ‘real’ but it rained.
Yes GS Alpha working on ripstick is surprising indeed. Great string tho... You have to try lynx tour at some point . Don't make me post the dreaded "DO IT" gif
 

tim-ay

Professional
Yes GS Alpha working on ripstick is surprising indeed. Great string tho... You have to try lynx tour at some point . Don't make me post the dreaded "DO IT" gif
I kind of like that gif. Before you started doing that I would only see Arnold in the predator yelling “DO IT!!!! Kill me!!! I’m here!!!! Do it!!!!”

I’ll have to order some lynx tour
 
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Ryebread

Semi-Pro
Untitled by ryan mac, on Flickr

Do we have a RACQUET TRADE THREAD?

If a fellow-holic is interested in trading me their clean on-spec:
Vcore98 v6
Vcore 100 v6
Speed Pro 360+

for my clean on-spec:
Speed Mp 360+ Black
Gravity Pro 360+
Blade v7 16x19 black
Pure Aero Nadal (used one week)
(all grips are as new, b/c OG. no dings/dents/chips)

4-3/8
USA

I LOVE these sticks. But I want to sell one my extras. And have all the frames!
 
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tim-ay

Professional
Head sells lynx tour at $13 a pack. That makes it a little more acceptable. They used to cost like $16-17 a pack.
Not terrible but would take a lot to knock TS out of my rackets at that price. I’m playing around with strings a little now that I have the second ripstick just to try some things out. I’ll add it to the slow testing I’m doing. I haven’t found a setup I hate yet. I don’t know if I’m zoning or the rip is that good. I need a good beat down to straighten things out, lol. That’s somewhere around a hidden corner.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Not terrible but would take a lot to knock TS out of my rackets at that price. I’m playing around with strings a little now that I have the second ripstick just to try some things out. I’ll add it to the slow testing I’m doing. I haven’t found a setup I hate yet. I don’t know if I’m zoning or the rip is that good. I need a good beat down to straighten things out, lol. That’s somewhere around a hidden corner.
yeah TS is so good and if i like myami those are priced so well too. It will be tough for me to really try anything else for a bit.
 

Vicious49

Professional
My current preferred set up is HyperG Soft crossed with Gamma TNT or GhostWire. Still trying to decide between those two. Athough if it's equal I'll probably go with TNT as i like the natural color over the white of GW. I have yet to try TS or Tour Hex.
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
just wanted to update my post from a few days ago. i had lost a set with my bp a few days ago to a guy i usually take two out of two sets when we play.
it really bothered me for many reasons, and i vented on here a little.. i played him again yesterday and broke out the bp for my second set with the same opponent
this time i took him out. so im going to keep both of my bp's. my take away today is that my shoulder muscles are sore. the serve is where i especially get alot of rhs. and
with the bp that is quite taxing. im feeling it today. but im thinking that will go away as my shoulder gets used to the extra heft.. anyway i wanted to make this update because the bp is a great stick . in fact it is the coolest stick available to us non pros. so now that i have some level of comfort iwth this thing, i will tinker with string jobs. the strings i have in it now are shot. old 16g hyper g at too high of a tension.. its way too jarring. i will slap a set of hyper g 120 in and lessen the tension.
this season i have only played a handful of times, and am just starting to get into tennis shape. i have not had the guts to call my best opponent yet to get our matches started. as i know that i will get my ass handed to me if i did that prematurely. that will happen in a few weeks once i have gotten in tennis shape.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
just wanted to update my post from a few days ago. i had lost a set with my bp a few days ago to a guy i usually take two out of two sets when we play.
it really bothered me for many reasons, and i vented on here a little.. i played him again yesterday and broke out the bp for my second set with the same opponent
this time i took him out. so im going to keep both of my bp's. my take away today is that my shoulder muscles are sore. the serve is where i especially get alot of rhs. and
with the bp that is quite taxing. im feeling it today. but im thinking that will go away as my shoulder gets used to the extra heft.. anyway i wanted to make this update because the bp is a great stick . in fact it is the coolest stick available to us non pros. so now that i have some level of comfort iwth this thing, i will tinker with string jobs. the strings i have in it now are shot. old 16g hyper g at too high of a tension.. its way too jarring. i will slap a set of hyper g 120 in and lessen the tension.
this season i have only played a handful of times, and am just starting to get into tennis shape. i have not had the guts to call my best opponent yet to get our matches started. as i know that i will get my ass handed to me if i did that prematurely. that will happen in a few weeks once i have gotten in tennis shape.
I love the BP a lot. Such a great racquet. you just have to be 100% every time you play with it, or things can go south. Not by a metric ton either. You just may find yourself missing that one extra point to close out a game that you usually get..its things like that. For me it came down to how the ball comes off the frame. I never fully got dialed in with that part. With a frame like the PD or PA, thats a non issue for me. I felt like I had the touch to do anything from drop shots to deep lobs ..etc but I never fully got there with the BP.

The PA and Ripstick bail me out on serve more often and the slices and droppers are magical. Groundies are big with all of them, but my game is a little more dynamic than that.
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
I love the BP a lot. Such a great racquet. you just have to be 100% every time you play with it, or things can go south. Not by a metric ton either. You just may find yourself missing that one extra point to close out a game that you usually get..its things like that. For me it came down to how the ball comes off the frame. I never fully got dialed in with that part. With a frame like the PD or PA, thats a non issue for me. I felt like I had the touch to do anything from drop shots to deep lobs ..etc but I never fully got there with the BP.

The PA and Ripstick bail me out on serve more often and the slices and droppers are magical. Groundies are big with all of them, but my game is a little more dynamic than that.
absolutely hear that. so let me say this in regards to the bp.. if this wansnt an H22 pro stock model. and was a retail stick. then i dont think i or most rec players would give it a second look. its because it is a legendary H22 and it is a pro stock, that many of us are really giving it a lot of air time, and trying to get into its groove. its got a cool factor that is simply unrivaled. and its mainly for that reason that i will keep both of my sticks. i usually do my holicking at the beginning of the year, so hence i will play around with this stick and a few others i have had on my mind. maybe the grav mp. and def the six one ps 100 i have coming in on order. but this BP is essentially like playing with an 18m stick with a high sw and low hl balance. which i am not used to, so this one is a stretch for me. but there is something there, and there is something to be learned when using this type of frame. let the games begin.
 

Nollid

Rookie
absolutely hear that. so let me say this in regards to the bp.. if this wansnt an H22 pro stock model. and was a retail stick. then i dont think i or most rec players would give it a second look. its because it is a legendary H22 and it is a pro stock, that many of us are really giving it a lot of air time, and trying to get into its groove. its got a cool factor that is simply unrivaled. and its mainly for that reason that i will keep both of my sticks. i usually do my holicking at the beginning of the year, so hence i will play around with this stick and a few others i have had on my mind. maybe the grav mp. and def the six one ps 100 i have coming in on order. but this BP is essentially like playing with an 18m stick with a high sw and low hl balance. which i am not used to, so this one is a stretch for me. but there is something there, and there is something to be learned when using this type of frame. let the games begin.
I, for one, could never get used to the heft and balance of the BP18 even though I desperately wanted to. At some point I had to be honest with myself and admit that although I loved hitting with it, it just wasn't optimal for me when competing. That being said I'm holding on to one.
 

danbrenner

Hall of Fame
I, for one, could never get used to the heft and balance of the BP18 even though I desperately wanted to. At some point I had to be honest with myself and admit that although I loved hitting with it, it just wasn't optimal for me when competing. That being said I'm holding on to one.
yep. i totally hear that. we can also think of this stick as the truth syrum. it will expose our weaknesses, and force us to tighten up our techniques. yesterday was a good feeling for me just based on the fact that i took back the set that i lost last week. so i know i can improve with this frame. listen. it has its obvious advantages too right. like rock solid on impact to redirect pace with ease and precision. that is has in spades. the areas that are challenging are maneuverability and rhs. but we can work on that too. my shoulder muscles are aching right now unlike ever before. but again i believe that will subside if i keep at it. also yesterday my forehand got better iwth the bp. i had to concentrate though. on getting sufficient rhs and keeping the ball well over the net. but once i dialed that in thigs were ok. its an interesting experiment.
 

Vicious49

Professional
I'm trying to stick to just 1 frame on each outing instead of swapping around like I used to. Yesterday was doubles so used only my UTs. I had forgotten the amount of control this frame gives me.

I'm really starting to get clarity now. v7 Blade for singles matches and UT for doubles. I could probably use the v7 for everything but I already own the UTs and I enjoy playing with them so why not. I'm keeping the UP16 and the TF40 around for days when I may feel like hitting with something a bit different and because I really like both those frames. They could easily have been primary frames if I didn't know the v7 or UT existed. The Speed Pro will stay in the bag because I know the humidity is coming and a tweener may come in handy for days when I'm exhausted.

The RF97, Rafalat, 93P, and PT2.0 are nice frames which will probably spend a lot of time in my closet as 'collectors items'. I may pull them out once in a while for a hitting session but they're not realistic primary or secondary options for me. I'll list the BP16 and Ezone Tour 98. Good frames, but not for me.
 
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