This is with the standard and the Lite? Or just the standard? I feel you on the standard, hence my giving up on it after only a few hits because every time I went back to regular Doppio, all was easier and as you say tighter. But for me it seemed more a weighting issue, and a loss of whip, causing the mistakes long I wouldn’t get with the Doppio. Feel the same way about the XL version. Can go between it and the Doppio with little issue, they feel related. The standard banana had periods of greatness but spells of sour milk, so I gave up trying to make it work when the others were just more plug n play.So far not gelling very much with the fraps. Yes there is the extra cream but its vague and it gets launchy. Where is the tight spiral of the doppio 16x20? I haven't found yet on the frap. Did Lorenzo take one to many caffe breaks and forgot something. I grabbed the euro after adding a leather grip and 1g @12. Ah yes, fine racquet and a bit of mass was helpful with a more meaty ball. I will add a crisp string to the frap but not feeling it.