Diary of a Racketaholic

topspn

G.O.A.T.
Explanation from someone on FB. I am not a gamer, still no clue what it means :X3:

L2 Left I think he said. That’s the inputs to do the “brick” celebration in FIFA on PlayStation. I feel represented
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
So I had a holic fun fest tonight. A buddy's barrel of pro stocks were brought forth. Played with an H22, Haas' old Dunlop, Prestige TGK, pro stock Radical, Liquidmetal Radical... And out of all that and more, my favorite stick was his old Espresso, a QTour 300 that I loved the first time I hit it and now again tonight. And to my surprise, I realized it was an 18x20 rather than a 16x19. Looking all over but cannot find specs on it, just the 16x19 version of it. Such a great stick. Like a baby Ultra Tour but with a bit more energy off the head, but of course less butter too. Nothing beats that UT butter.

Liquidmetal Radical was also outstanding.

As for my own PKs, I think the Banana Lite is done. It pummels the ball, yet so does the Top Banana and yet the Top Banana swings easier for me. Tried to alter the weight and put it beneath the grip. Still didn't solve it. No need to waste time trying to make it the Top Banana, as I already have them.

If any holics (especially in Europe) might be interested, happy to give you a deal.
 

tim-ay

Legend
i hit for 10 min after the rain stopped and things dried up. then it rained again. no progress on G with BK or limoncello place in the bag. frustrating weather.
 

Jay Winzenz

New User
So I had a holic fun fest tonight. A buddy's barrel of pro stocks were brought forth. Played with an H22, Haas' old Dunlop, Prestige TGK, pro stock Radical, Liquidmetal Radical... And out of all that and more, my favorite stick was his old Espresso, a QTour 300 that I loved the first time I hit it and now again tonight. And to my surprise, I realized it was an 18x20 rather than a 16x19. Looking all over but cannot find specs on it, just the 16x19 version of it. Such a great stick. Like a baby Ultra Tour but with a bit more energy off the head, but of course less butter too. Nothing beats that UT butter.

Liquidmetal Radical was also outstanding.

As for my own PKs, I think the Banana Lite is done. It pummels the ball, yet so does the Top Banana and yet the Top Banana swings easier for me. Tried to alter the weight and put it beneath the grip. Still didn't solve it. No need to waste time trying to make it the Top Banana, as I already have them.

If any holics (especially in Europe) might be interested, happy to give you a deal.

There was a 18x20 QTour 300 listed on the big auction site in the states that I just bought. Seller says he brought it over from Europe.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
There was a 18x20 QTour 300 listed on the big auction site in the states that I just bought. Seller says he brought it over from Europe.

Ha. I saw that when I was trying to find info on it, and thought about making the purchase. So congrats. If you don't like it, you know where to find me.
 

skeeter

Professional
Just bought my second Yonex VCP 97 310! I have not been this excited about a new frame in very long time! My 5 Phantom 100P are up for sale and 2 have sold so far!!
Nice. Have a 97 310 and 21 VC95 demo to arrive any day. Are you leading up the 97? Power Player, haven't you added a little lead on the 97? Was it at 12?
 

el sergento

Hall of Fame
... And out of all that and more, my favorite stick was his old Espresso, a QTour 300 that I loved the first time I hit it and now again tonight. And to my surprise, I realized it was an 18x20 rather than a 16x19. Looking all over but cannot find specs on it, just the 16x19 version of it. Such a great stick. Like a baby Ultra Tour but with a bit more energy off the head, but of course less butter too. Nothing beats that UT butter.

Did it have magic beans??? Always wondered if PK Pro Stock had sand in them.
 

Vicious49

Legend
Im back home and the Regnas are here but we have rain predicted for the next week due to a possible hurricane that is coming this way.
 

StanAO14

Semi-Pro
So I had a holic fun fest tonight. A buddy's barrel of pro stocks were brought forth. Played with an H22, Haas' old Dunlop, Prestige TGK, pro stock Radical, Liquidmetal Radical... And out of all that and more, my favorite stick was his old Espresso, a QTour 300 that I loved the first time I hit it and now again tonight. And to my surprise, I realized it was an 18x20 rather than a 16x19. Looking all over but cannot find specs on it, just the 16x19 version of it. Such a great stick. Like a baby Ultra Tour but with a bit more energy off the head, but of course less butter too. Nothing beats that UT butter.

Liquidmetal Radical was also outstanding.

As for my own PKs, I think the Banana Lite is done. It pummels the ball, yet so does the Top Banana and yet the Top Banana swings easier for me. Tried to alter the weight and put it beneath the grip. Still didn't solve it. No need to waste time trying to make it the Top Banana, as I already have them.

If any holics (especially in Europe) might be interested, happy to give you a deal.
LM radical MP or tour?
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Did it have magic beans??? Always wondered if PK Pro Stock had sand in them.

Yes, but sorry if that was confusing - this wasn't a pro stock. Just a very rare bird he had, mixed in with the other pro stocks. Have since discovered that it was an old release (2015?) of a QTour 300 with an 18x20 pattern that was exclusive to Europe (the 16x19 was released everywhere else; oh Lorenzo and his Euro bias). Little box beam goodness, this was. I keep saying "little" to describe this one only because it doesn't hit huge, you've got to swing hard to get mustard out of it, but I just couldn't seem to miss a ball with it and the same thing happened on my first experience many months ago. Even played a practice set with it and flew through that, not dropping a game and barely missing a first serve. This did not have the firepower of the 16x20 100s but the feel and control makes it tantalizingly fun when you're on, in an Ultra Tourish way.

LM radical MP or tour?

MP. Am told this is the closest one can find to Djokovic's mold? Super frame and feel. Understand now why this one had a cult following.
 

el sergento

Hall of Fame
Yes, but sorry if that was confusing - this wasn't a pro stock. Just a very rare bird he had, mixed in with the other pro stocks. Have since discovered that it was an old release (2015?) of a QTour 300 with an 18x20 pattern that was exclusive to Europe (the 16x19 was released everywhere else; oh Lorenzo and his Euro bias). Little box beam goodness, this was. I keep saying "little" to describe this one only because it doesn't hit huge, you've got to swing hard to get mustard out of it, but I just couldn't seem to miss a ball with it and the same thing happened on my first experience many months ago. Even played a practice set with it and flew through that, not dropping a game and barely missing a first serve. This did not have the firepower of the 16x20 100s but the feel and control makes it tantalizingly fun when you're on, in an Ultra…..

That’s why I love the Espresso. Can’t miss, amazing directional control, and enough put away power (at least the 16x19) providing you’ve managed to get your opponent out of position.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
That’s why I love the Espresso. Can’t miss, amazing directional control, and enough put away power (at least the 16x19) providing you’ve managed to get your opponent out of position.

Totally get it. PK does these thin box frames so well. Uber control, but the beans give them just that little boost.
 

StanAO14

Semi-Pro
Yes, but sorry if that was confusing - this wasn't a pro stock. Just a very rare bird he had, mixed in with the other pro stocks. Have since discovered that it was an old release (2015?) of a QTour 300 with an 18x20 pattern that was exclusive to Europe (the 16x19 was released everywhere else; oh Lorenzo and his Euro bias). Little box beam goodness, this was. I keep saying "little" to describe this one only because it doesn't hit huge, you've got to swing hard to get mustard out of it, but I just couldn't seem to miss a ball with it and the same thing happened on my first experience many months ago. Even played a practice set with it and flew through that, not dropping a game and barely missing a first serve. This did not have the firepower of the 16x20 100s but the feel and control makes it tantalizingly fun when you're on, in an Ultra Tourish way.



MP. Am told this is the closest one can find to Djokovic's mold? Super frame and feel. Understand now why this one had a cult following.
Ok, yeah i have both the MP and the tour. While the tour is sublime it is too heavy after an hour ( I think it is comparable to a six one 95 with better feel or an H22/ blade pro). The MP I found too light - I somehow have to customize it so it falls between de stock MP and the tour. Any idea if and how your friend customized his LM MP? Doppio versus Stock LM MP - obvious for the doppio!
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Ok, yeah i have both the MP and the tour. While the tour is sublime it is too heavy after an hour ( I think it is comparable to a six one 95 with better feel or an H22/ blade pro). The MP I found too light - I somehow have to customize it so it falls between de stock MP and the tour. Any idea if and how your friend customized his LM MP? Doppio versus Stock LM MP - obvious for the doppio!

I think there was just a leather grip and og on it, but I didn't pay too close attention - he just handed it to me and I hit it for fifteen minutes or so. Seems it had plenty of weight in the head stock, and looking at specs the sw is in the upper 320s so that makes sense to what I felt.

And yes, while I sing the frame's praises, I do so as a holic who admires good sticks. No way I would play with it over a Doppio or a Top Banana, though, in a match that mattered (both of those swing easier to me and are a little more forgiving, a little nastier). Just thought it was one of the better Radicals I've ever hit, especially in terms of feel.
 

el sergento

Hall of Fame
Ok, yeah i have both the MP and the tour. While the tour is sublime it is too heavy after an hour ( I think it is comparable to a six one 95 with better feel or an H22/ blade pro). The MP I found too light - I somehow have to customize it so it falls between de stock MP and the tour. Any idea if and how your friend customized his LM MP? Doppio versus Stock LM MP - obvious for the doppio!

Those Head MP’s loose out in power and spin to the PK’s all day, and the Doppio’s have enough control and feel to give the Heads a run for their money.

I tried everything to!up the power on all the assorted Head MP’s I’ve played over the years (Radicals, Prestige’s, MP’s, Pros, LM, MG, Ytk), all to no avail.

All I ever got was plenty of butter, but no jam.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Those Head MP’s loose out in power and spin to the PK’s all day, and the Doppio’s have enough control and feel to give the Heads a run for their money.

I tried everything to!up the power on all the assorted Head MP’s I’ve played over the years (Radicals, Prestige’s, MP’s, Pros, LM, MG, Ytk), all to no avail.

All I ever got was plenty of butter, but no jam.

Agree. And hence, there is no toast.

Or something.
 

Vicious49

Legend
Explanation from someone on FB. I am not a gamer, still no clue what it means :X3:

L2 Left I think he said. That’s the inputs to do the “brick” celebration in FIFA on PlayStation. I feel represented

I finished watching the match late last night. I was on the plane when it started so I DVR'd it. Thanks for clearing up that L2 + Left thing. I assumed it was the hallway or route they take in Ashe after winning to get to the media room or something.

Its killing me to have these Regnas sitting here but not being able to hit with them. Stupid rain!!!
 

el sergento

Hall of Fame
Agree. And hence, there is no toast.

Or something.

And TOAST is delicious:

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ryushen21

Legend
I finished watching the match late last night. I was on the plane when it started so I DVR'd it. Thanks for clearing up that L2 + Left thing. I assumed it was the hallway or route they take in Ashe after winning to get to the media room or something.

Its killing me to have these Regnas sitting here but not being able to hit with them. Stupid rain!!!
That is the worst.
 

CountMonte

New User
I’ve been loving the Top Banana but reading all the love for the Vcore 95 and it also being 16x20 I couldn’t resist trying it.
Yesterday I waited until I was grooved hitting with the TB (hitting inside out FHs to my friends BH, we were rallying without missing) so I swapped in the 95.
FHs instantly lost power, my shape and spin on the ball were less:(. I would have to change my game and spend time getting used to it in order to play at the same level. How are you guys able to seamlessly transition from TB to 95?

I can swap to Vcore 100, Eurostaff, and other frames no issues. But the 95 just felt off? I want to love it!
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
I’ve been loving the Top Banana but reading all the love for the Vcore 95 and it also being 16x20 I couldn’t resist trying it.
Yesterday I waited until I was grooved hitting with the TB (hitting inside out FHs to my friends BH, we were rallying without missing) so I swapped in the 95.
FHs instantly lost power, my shape and spin on the ball were less:(. I would have to change my game and spend time getting used to it in order to play at the same level. How are you guys able to seamlessly transition from TB to 95?

I can swap to Vcore 100, Eurostaff, and other frames no issues. But the 95 just felt off? I want to love it!

I guess you could try lowering the tension significantly from TB on the 95 to try to open up the sweet spot and pop level? I feel you, though, because as much as loved my VC95 demo, it was when I went back to the Doppio that I realized I had more sweet spot wiggle room, and more punch as well. And of course the Top Banana ups the ante even more for me. By the way: that inside out forehand to the opponent’s backhand is the Top Banana’s choke hold. I don’t know if any frame hits that shot better.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I’ve been loving the Top Banana but reading all the love for the Vcore 95 and it also being 16x20 I couldn’t resist trying it.
Yesterday I waited until I was grooved hitting with the TB (hitting inside out FHs to my friends BH, we were rallying without missing) so I swapped in the 95.
FHs instantly lost power, my shape and spin on the ball were less:(. I would have to change my game and spend time getting used to it in order to play at the same level. How are you guys able to seamlessly transition from TB to 95?

I can swap to Vcore 100, Eurostaff, and other frames no issues. But the 95 just felt off? I want to love it!

I don't know. pretty easy for me. I play a really big game with the VC95 and have switched between it and the Top B without issues.

This is why it really helps to know the specs of your frames. Your Vc95 may just need some lead. Some of them come in at pretty low SWs.

The top Banana is swinging at 328-330. The stock VC95 could very well be 315. That is most likely the issue. I like my Vc95s at around 322.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I guess you could try lowering the tension significantly from TB on the 95 to try to open up the sweet spot and pop level? I feel you, though, because as much as loved my VC95 demo, it was when I went back to the Doppio that I realized I had more sweet spot wiggle room, and more punch as well. And of course the Top Banana ups the ante even more for me. By the way: that inside out forehand to the opponent’s backhand is the Top Banana’s choke hold. I don’t know if any frame hits that shot better.

For me the Vc95 is even better at the I/o FH. In fact it may be the king. Super precise and tons of whip. I have hit winners off that side that I should have no business doing, but the pinpoint accuracy just puts it in a very tight spot and the spin kicks it even further away.

I actually think the Top B is a more demanding frame, but it's still my favorite XL and not going anywhere.
 

Kjaxin

New User
Well I haven't bought a new frame in a few months so I bit the bullet on a new 6.1 95 prostaff from Wilson today. I had to pull the trigger when I found 15% off for veterans :cautious:. Might need to lighten my bag still using the CX 200
 

CountMonte

New User
I guess you could try lowering the tension significantly from TB on the 95 to try to open up the sweet spot and pop level? I feel you, though, because as much as loved my VC95 demo, it was when I went back to the Doppio that I realized I had more sweet spot wiggle room, and more punch as well. And of course the Top Banana ups the ante even more for me. By the way: that inside out forehand to the opponent’s backhand is the Top Banana’s choke hold. I don’t know if any frame hits that shot better.

You’re 100 percent right about the inside out FH!

I figured the 2HBH is where I’d have issues with the 95 (I seem more comfortable using 100 inch on that wing usually) but oddly it was the FH where the 95 felt unforgiving. I don’t have the specs, I’ll try some lead and see how it does.

After using the Pure Aero (and its ancestors) for so many years I was excited for a sexier looking frame like the Regna, new VCP but here I am back with the yellow and black! Never in a million years would I have thought to try this frame until I stumbled down the rabbit hole of this thread...
 

CountMonte

New User
For me the Vc95 is even better at the I/o FH. In fact it may be the king. Super precise and tons of whip. I have hit winners off that side that I should have no business doing, but the pinpoint accuracy just puts it in a very tight spot and the spin kicks it even further away.

I actually think the Top B is a more demanding frame, but it's still my favorite XL and not going anywhere.
I’m sure you already mentioned it, but what’s your recommendation for lead?
 

ryushen21

Legend
I’ve been loving the Top Banana but reading all the love for the Vcore 95 and it also being 16x20 I couldn’t resist trying it.
Yesterday I waited until I was grooved hitting with the TB (hitting inside out FHs to my friends BH, we were rallying without missing) so I swapped in the 95.
FHs instantly lost power, my shape and spin on the ball were less:(. I would have to change my game and spend time getting used to it in order to play at the same level. How are you guys able to seamlessly transition from TB to 95?

I can swap to Vcore 100, Eurostaff, and other frames no issues. But the 95 just felt off? I want to love it!
Lower the tension and find the right lead placement for you. The 95 can absolutely slay but you do have to coax it into that money setup for you.

For me the Vc95 is even better at the I/o FH. In fact it may be the king. Super precise and tons of whip. I have hit winners off that side that I should have no business doing, but the pinpoint accuracy just puts it in a very tight spot and the spin kicks it even further away.

I actually think the Top B is a more demanding frame, but it's still my favorite XL and not going anywhere.
Agree 100%. Also, the shape variations are more dramatic with the 95. I can switch easier between loopier topspin shots and line drives and that makes it easier to throw opponents off.
 

CountMonte

New User
Lower the tension and find the right lead placement for you. The 95 can absolutely slay but you do have to coax it into that money setup for you.


Agree 100%. Also, the shape variations are more dramatic with the 95. I can switch easier between loopier topspin shots and line drives and that makes it easier to throw opponents off.

Ive got Tour Bite @53 in the 95. I’m hellbent to get it to where I can do a proper comparison to the Top Banana.
What tension do you suggest I drop to? 46?
When I lead it up do I need to go to a leather grip to keep the same balance? Would love to hear your set up.
 

StanAO14

Semi-Pro
I’ve been loving the Top Banana but reading all the love for the Vcore 95 and it also being 16x20 I couldn’t resist trying it.
Yesterday I waited until I was grooved hitting with the TB (hitting inside out FHs to my friends BH, we were rallying without missing) so I swapped in the 95.
FHs instantly lost power, my shape and spin on the ball were less:(. I would have to change my game and spend time getting used to it in order to play at the same level. How are you guys able to seamlessly transition from TB to 95?

I can swap to Vcore 100, Eurostaff, and other frames no issues. But the 95 just felt off? I want to love it!
In my experience the vc 95 is not low powered compared to other 95’s, however I needed to make it heavier (Marcus giron set up) and strung low. But even the doppio stock wins in the power department, while still maintaining control because of the 16/20. Only my serve was more powerful with the VC95 because of the quickness the smaller head brings. Bottom line I would test it with some customization and the right string set up
 

ryushen21

Legend
Ive got Tour Bite @53 in the 95. I’m hellbent to get it to where I can do a proper comparison to the Top Banana.
What tension do you suggest I drop to? 46?
When I lead it up do I need to go to a leather grip to keep the same balance? Would love to hear your set up.
I did TB at 47/45.

Stock grip, 1g of lead at 10/2 each. That bumped up the SW just enough to get the touch of added plow I was looking for.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
I’m sure you already mentioned it, but what’s your recommendation for lead?

Probably 10 and 2, but I don't know your specs. 10 and 2 is a safe bet. Get it to 334 or so with the lead/string and OG.

Tension is 51/49 for me. You can go lower, and I may mess with that one day.

I actually get more power than the Doppio now. It's a more direct frame so I am able to flatten the ball out a little more with super accurate results. So that gives me more power on my shots since I don't have to use as much spin when I don't want to do.
 

tim-ay

Legend
I guess you could try lowering the tension significantly from TB on the 95 to try to open up the sweet spot and pop level? I feel you, though, because as much as loved my VC95 demo, it was when I went back to the Doppio that I realized I had more sweet spot wiggle room, and more punch as well. And of course the Top Banana ups the ante even more for me. By the way: that inside out forehand to the opponent’s backhand is the Top Banana’s choke hold. I don’t know if any frame hits that shot better.
7G and dopes are darn close on that inside out. of course my dopes are pushing 330SW, so…. but i’d put the G right there with the TB on forehand.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
7G and dopes are darn close on that inside out. of course my dopes are pushing 330SW, so…. but i’d put the G right there with the TB on forehand.

Yeah, frames are all super close - in this and in other matters. Should have just said the 16/20 PKs.
 

el sergento

Hall of Fame
7G and dopes are darn close on that inside out. of course my dopes are pushing 330SW, so…. but i’d put the G right there with the TB on forehand.

Ooof, dunno, 7G had massive balls AFAIR. The Doppio, at least IME hita fast ball, but not the heavy ball of the 7G.

of course, the 7G is harder to get in position.
 

JGads

G.O.A.T.
Ooof, dunno, 7G had massive balls AFAIR. The Doppio, at least IME hita fast ball, but not the heavy ball of the 7G.

of course, the 7G is harder to get in position.

That's the thing. Just little spice differences and what you prefer. The bean energy plus the pattern and the forgiving 100 head means it's so easy to go inside out and shape the ball however necessary, but if we're going to parse the little differences, for me personally I would say: 7G with the biggest ball there to the corner, but the toughest to get around plus the stiffest so you may find some errors; Doppio the lightest ball there, but the whippiest and so you can slide an even sharper angle off the court; and the Top Banana for me is a little bit in between these two, with a little more flex which might bleed some pace off the 7G's ball but gives me better feel for the shot and so I make less errors - hence my putting it tops.

But again, these differences are slight and each user can find the one he prefers. They're all outstanding at this all important shot, based on the forgiving head and 16/20 and the bean energy to jump the ball over there.

My hitting partner the other night actually commented on this specific shot and my proficiency of pinning it back there and getting him in trouble. I said it was my favorite ball to hit. And the PK's winked.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Yeah the 16x20 is such a great pattern. It boils down to how much whip, punch and feel you want in your racquet and what you play best with.
 

ryushen21

Legend
Took the n6.1 out for a nostalgia hit today. I had forgotten what an absolute monster it is on serves. That was pretty much where the fun ended though. When I was still hitting eastern, it was a more enjoyable frame.

The real exploration today was the VC95 with the BK/Grey Fire setup and it really delivers. I still like the crispness, clarity, and overall performance of full TB, but that short lifespan is a major downer. The BK/GF setup provides a clearer feedback than full BK but it's not what I would call crisp. The performance characteristics of BK are still present and the overall feel is improved by the GF crosses. So far it's showing to be a promising setup. The bed should settle in a day or two and I'll be better able to judge from there.
 

fundrazer

G.O.A.T.
Anybody know some wizardry I can do to get both 16x19 and 18x20 Blade V8 demos into my cart? I can add one, but when I go to add a 2nd racquet the V8s don't show up in the list of choices.

Guess I may need to just call them up to place the order.
 

ryushen21

Legend
Anybody know some wizardry I can do to get both 16x19 and 18x20 Blade V8 demos into my cart? I can add one, but when I go to add a 2nd racquet the V8s don't show up in the list of choices.

Guess I may need to just call them up to place the order.
Could be limited due to demand too.
 

zus_greg

New User
I got in around 4 hours over 3 sessions with SOZ. First it was strung with a round pretty firm grey poly that came from ZUS. It played well and i can tell it had a good connected feel in spite it being a firm frame. Even with a stiff string, i did not detect any complaints from my arm. After that first hit, i got it restrung with some BK @51lbs and i added 4g under the butt cap. I wanted a string i was pretty familiar with and a bit softer then that grey string. Now we are talking! BK brought in a bit more pocketing which was very welcome but again this is a more direct response frame and not a flexy frame by any stretch. Now it is predictable and trustworthy on ground strokes with ease of being able to rally @75% power and hit deep with a heavy ball. This is certainly a pleaner who really had ambitions to be a tweener but alas Zues wouldn't allow it. Comparing string beds, the main's spacing seems really similar to doppio. Crosses are much wider so it gives heavy spin more jump off the ground and it was pretty effective. Versatility is there to be had and i was surprised how well it drove the ball as well going more flatish.

Beam is a bit thicker than doppio so suspect 22 or 22.5, it is not thick enough to be in babs beam land. The feel and any form of touch shot is genuinely good. I loved volleying with the stick just had good stability, mobility, authority and touch that made my life easier. BK just compliments this frame nicely giving it a sightly softer touch but balanced and predictable. I got in some practice sets and the versatility extends to serves and returns. Serves clicked right away although my toss was rusty in the beginning after my hiatus but started clicking after first session. I went out in between and got an hour of serve practice to remind myself ;)

The most profound gap in between SOZ and the doppio comes down to volleying were SOZ is just hands down the better stick. Grounds strokes while they do things a bit differently but they are not far off in effectiveness. Doppio big whip and versatile launch angle and SOZ a more stable not quite as whippy but not frappuccino either and very versatile launch angle still. I would not call it whippy per se but it is more whippy than the frap. Launch versatility i'd even go with SOZ more as i can really drive but when i go higher with heavy spin it really brings the ball down and kicks high with good weight. It also shows up in kick serves were again this wouldn't be a doppio hallmark. Doppio is more flat good targeting and side spin. SOZ can do an excellent kick serve kicking up and wide. Now I also got BK on my 2nd ZUS stick which is also a 100 with a 16x20 string pattern. This one is called the striker and the one i have been playing with is the custom.
What is BK?
 
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