Did any lawsuits come out of the whole wilson glide shoe debacle? I assume a bunch of ppl snapped their ankles trying to slide on hardcourts.

Djokovicfan

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I think the best thing tennis shoe manufacturers could do is just publish a number or some measure of the rubber used in the sole in order to let customers know “this shoe will grip the hardcourt surface like a chalked up gorilla” or “this shoe may actually slide on hardcourt”. They could maybe give the hardness rating of the rubber; i assume harder rubbers would slide on hc more easily than soft ones as with car tires.

That would probably be better than trying to convince buyers that their shoes will magically enable them to slide on hardcourts like a greased up djokovic.
 

lim

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Good point OP. This info is always hard to decipher from reviews as well b/c the play testers usually don't move well enough make an informed point of view of sliding. Durometer or the equivalent would work- believe there is an A scale and D scale. Thats what they use for rollerblade/scooter/skateboard wheels which indicates hardness.

The other thing is that the actual tread pattern /shallowness/deepness also affects how responsive the outsole is to sliding. The pattern on the gel 8s with the little targets on the ball of the foot is perfect IMO. Easy to control your slide and then once you shift weight on to the target it grips and allows you to change direction. With other shoes once you start to transition your weight the whole outsole just sticks causing you to stop abruptly
 
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Djokovicfan

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Agree, like some sort of durometer or coefficient of friction rating?
yeah i skateboard too and its well known to skaters that harder polyurethane slides more easily than soft.

Good point OP. This info is always hard to decipher from reviews as well b/c the play testers usually don't move well enough make an informed point of view of sliding. Durometer or the equivalent would work- believe there is an A scale and D scale. Thats what they use for rollerblade/scooter/skateboard wheels which indicates hardness.

The other thing is that the actual tread pattern /shallowness/deepness also affects how responsive the outsole is to sliding. The pattern on the gel 8s with the little targets on the ball of the foot is perfect IMO. Easy to control your slide and then once you shift weight on to the target it grips and allows you to change direction. With other shoes once you start to transition your weight the whole outsole just sticks causing you to stop abruptly
Do you think asics made the sole of the gel 8 like that on purpose to work as you are describing? I think it kind of sounds like the idea of the wilson glide sole. At least from the video advert i remember. Different zones of the sole having different sliding ability.

personally i would rather have a uniform sole hardness tho.
 

lim

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Do you think asics made the sole of the gel 8 like that on purpose to work as you are describing? I think it kind of sounds like the idea of the wilson glide sole. At least from the video advert i remember. Different zones of the sole having different sliding ability.

personally i would rather have a uniform sole hardness tho.
it is one hardness and its a different layup than what Adidas and nike are using since it is noticeably more squeaky but the point is most brands just have some variation of a herringbone pattern whereas gel 8s are completely engineered to have pivot points. if both those brands copied the asics sole layup their outsoles still wouldn't be as good imo




 

Djokovicfan

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it is one hardness and its a different layup than what Adidas and nike are using since it is noticeably more squeaky but the point is most brands just have some variation of a herringbone pattern whereas gel 8s are completely engineered to have pivot points. if both those brands copied the asics sole layup their outsoles still wouldn't be as good imo




Interesting.
 
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