How many of you believed he would win against Djokovic ?
Well, you can go to the match thread and observe that I picked Djokovic in 3
Great. AO will be great fun.
How many of you believed he would win against Djokovic ?
Who would you pick in a final between the 2?
I'm not shocked that he lost (after all, this is Djokovic we're talking about) and I believed he had a very good chance and, why not, he beat him just a few weeks ago in a far more important final than this one. Neither were at their best this week and Djokovic, in particular, almost went out in the semis. In the end, he upped his level for the final and did it more successfully than Murray was able to do. But, in the end, either player could have won that match.
Prior to it, I had my doubts. Djokovic is still extremely inconsistent. However, I picked him in 2 because I believe his H2H against Murray and recent wake-up-call against Verdasco would serve to his advantage, particularly in tiring Murray out in the first set. I expected the first set to be the contested one, with the second and possible third to be 6-4.How many of you believed he would win against Djokovic ?
He is in a better physical shape than 2016 i think. Defensively much better and attacking wise - the same ole or even less maybe,
Who would you pick in a final between the 2?
It was certainly a shock for the world number one to be upset in a final, even if it was only a 250.
I think Murray will steady the ship in Melbourne. It was inevitable he'd suffer a surprise defeat at some point during his time as no.1.Shock ?? He lost to a much better player.
a world where a murray defeat would be shocking...... would be shocking
My money was on Murray. I didn't think Djokovic's game or confidence was where it should have been in order to beat Murray who was on an almost 30 match winning streak. So I was a bit surprised Djokovic managed to win. But Djokovic will always be Djokovic and you should never count him out in a one on one fight no matter how he looks prior to a match. Yesterday he showed what an incredible champion he is.
Still though, I find Murray to be more ready against the whole field on daily form. Yesterday Djokovic showed he is ready for murray but is he ready for other match ups? Questions aren't answered yet about 2nd half of 2016 Djokovic. So we have to see.
Try telling that to the numerous Fed fans that ridiculed Djokovic whenever he lost to Roger these past couple of years.Why would there be any shock in the no.2 beating the no.1?
I can get behind the mental exhaustion taking a while, but the Novak slam was half a year ago...how long does a guy need to recover physically? The guy played back-to-back five set epics against Murray and Nadal at the 2012 AO, and outlasted both of them!Both players are very close.
Djokovic must have been exhausted mentally and physically after Novak slam and career slam stuff.
It's very difficult to stay #1 for long time.
Pay attention to what comes next, because it may all point back to the Verdsaco match as the turning point.Try telling that to the numerous Fed fans that ridiculed Djokovic whenever he lost to Roger these past couple of years.
I expected Murray to win, but Djokovic has always had a higher top level than Murray I don't think that's changed in the last 6 months.
Agreed, everywhere except maybe grass. Maybe.
Agreed, everywhere except maybe grass. Maybe.
Don't think it shocking in the slightest. A tightly contested match between the top 2 players in the world. As far as having bearing on Aussie Open, I think it would have had more had Djokovic closed it out in the 2nd set. Then it's an easy victory with nothing to fear.
I would consider Djokovic the slight favourite in Melbourne, but it's a lot closer than it has been in previous years. One thing that does bother me a little is that any time Djokovic looks hurt or down against Murray, Andy seems to mess up as though he feels sorry for him. Did the same again on Saturday, serving 2 double faults and dropping serve. Same thing happened in Melbourne in 2015 where he appeared to ease off when Novak was fatigued. I could just imagine peak Nadal in that situation He would have smelled blood.
Djokovic in the Wimbledon final of 2014 and 2015 was better than any Murray on grass as well IMO. But it's arguable there.
The problem on slow courts for Murray is Djokovic does the grinding and topspin groundstroke trading for hours schtick just a bit better.
I know what you mean, I don't think it's feeling sorry though, but he lets up a bit like a reflex, similar to his lapses of concentration...see the feather in AO 2013. I think Murray is close to Djoko in pure tennis (not as good, but close), but he doesn't have that killer mentality that Djokodal and Federer have shown more often .
I am picking RAFA to win the aussie open so Novak and Andy has no chance. this is rafa's year to win 3 of 4 majors.How many of you believed he would win against Djokovic ?
Djokovic has the better serve and forehand which is what pays dividends in long matches. He generates pace more easily and has more margin on the forehand while still having good court penetration. Murray has to come out of his shell a bit to dictate off the forehand side and I find his rally balls off that side a little soft by comparison with lots of height but not too much court penetration. Looks to me like it's easier for Novak to tee off on Andy's rally forehands than the other way around.
Basically Djokovic is able to maintain a controlled aggression better and I think his forehand is a more efficient stroke as well.
The flip side to this however is that a tough 3 set win can sometimes do more to strengthen your confidence and mentality, especially given how shaky Djokovic's had been since winning RG last year. Of course when I was watching it, a straight set victory would've been preferable because I was bloody nervous and just wanted it over and done with but perhaps in the long run it was just what the doctor ordered for Novak. Time will tell.Don't think it shocking in the slightest. A tightly contested match between the top 2 players in the world. As far as having bearing on Aussie Open, I think it would have had more had Djokovic closed it out in the 2nd set. Then it's an easy victory with nothing to fear.
Muzz probably should have won but he muffed his bps(2/7 on bp compared to *Cvac's 3/4). I was a little surprised at how much more tired Muzz was towards the end of the match compared to *Cvac.