Difference between Gamma X-ST and Progression ST II ?

[counterpuncher]

I have been researching a couple of options for a crank machine and was wondering if someone could tell me what the differences are between the Gamma X-ST and Progression ST II machines ?
I read through the Gamma website, checked with a local retailer and searched on this forum all to no avail : (
I'd appreciate it, if someone could please enlighten me : )

Prog STII ---> http://www.gammasports.com/gamma.cfm?prodid=106

X-ST ---> http://www.gammasports.com/gamma.cfm?prodid=269

 

[kashgotmoney]

the x-st is made of strong diecast aluminum for the most part. including the clamp base

 

[Gamma Tech]

the x-st is made of strong diecast aluminum for the most part. including the clamp base

Sorry, but most of the parts are extruded aluminum (blue base & turntable). only some of the parts are diecast.


the only difference is coloring and the bases. the STII has a cast aluminum frame underneath of the red ABS cover. The X-ST is extruded aluminum with 2 drawers in the base. All the other parts are identical.

bret

 

[mikeler]

I have been using the Gamma X-ST since May and have been very happy with it.

 

[counterpuncher]

Thanks to all for the replies, especially Bret for clarifying. They're both on my short-list, now all I have to do is determine which manufacturer has better support here down under : )

 

[mikeler]

Bret is always prompt and helpful on these boards if you have detailed questions.

 

[AndyL]

Hi all, I'm new to the boards though I've been lurking for a while now. I just bought a X-ST and there seems to be a slight wobble in the tension head as it rides the tension arm. The slight play allows the tension head to slide past the travel limit stop on a occasion. Is there an adjustment for this?

 

[The_Question]

now all I have to do is determine which manufacturer has better support here down under : )

They're by the same company, yea?

 

[mikeler]

Hi all, I'm new to the boards though I've been lurking for a while now. I just bought a X-ST and there seems to be a slight wobble in the tension head as it rides the tension arm. The slight play allows the tension head to slide past the travel limit stop on a occasion. Is there an adjustment for this?

Yeah, sometimes that happens. It's not very often so I don't feel a need to make any adjustments on mine.

 

[counterpuncher]

They're by the same company, yea?

Yes, sorry didn't quite clarify that I am tossing up between a Gamma stringer and a Klip stringer.

Gamma X-ST ---> http://www.gammasports.com/gamma.cfm?prodid=269

Klip Sidewinder ---> http://www.photostringer.com/images/Klip_Sidewinder_001a.jpg

 

[Midlife crisis]

Hi all, I'm new to the boards though I've been lurking for a while now. I just bought a X-ST and there seems to be a slight wobble in the tension head as it rides the tension arm. The slight play allows the tension head to slide past the travel limit stop on a occasion. Is there an adjustment for this?

I have an X-ST also and never have this problem because I always try for a minimum length of string between the frame and the diablo. The reason for doing this is that the section of string from the frame to the tension gripper is under tension during the pull, and then gets tensioned again when that section is strung. If you have a longer section of string, you have a greater length that is pulled twice and, with poly strings, sometimes that can deaden the string prematurely. Second, the string that wraps around the diablo now ends up right in the middle of the stringbed. Shear breakage of poly can be caused by twisting of the string (as if the string has a twist when it wraps from one string hole to the next) or if it is bent excessively. The diablo is not that tight of a bend, the only time one of my string jobs has sheared in the middle of the stringbed was when the section of string going around the diablo ended up in the middle of the stringbed.