Dimitrov 1st grand slam title

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tipsa...don'tlikehim!

Talk Tennis Guru
we all know he is overrated all right, but still it's hard not to see him at least with a slam title
last year i thought he could win 5 but was probably too optimistic

first slam title: 2017
 

FedererDropShot

Hall of Fame
He's 23/24 now?

I think he'll get one at around 27/28 year old.

Federer will be gone by then. Federer might play til 2016 or 2017.
Murray/Djokovic/Nadal will be in their early 30s - they'll probably still win slams if the 'weak era' continues but there'll be opportunities for outsiders.

His best chance would probably be Wimbledon. He seems so natural on the grass.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
He is lacking in two major areas right now: tactics and mentality.

At the moment I cannot see him winning a slam and I fear that that will remain that way until Rasheed and Dimi go their separate ways. I feel like Dimitrov cannot separate his professional career from his personal life and that this is hurting his results.
 

THE FIGHTER

Hall of Fame
He's 23/24 now?

I think he'll get one at around 27/28 year old.

Federer will be gone by then. Federer might play til 2016 or 2017.
Murray/Djokovic/Nadal will be in their early 30s - they'll probably still win slams if the 'weak era' continues but there'll be opportunities for outsiders.

His best chance would probably be Wimbledon. He seems so natural on the grass.

this seems like the safest bet so far. he's oddly remarkable on grass, one wouldnt guess it with his strokes, but his movement on it is right on.
 

THE FIGHTER

Hall of Fame
He is lacking in two major areas right now: tactics and mentality.

At the moment I cannot see him winning a slam and I fear that that will remain that way until Rasheed and Dimi go their separate ways. I feel like Dimitrov cannot separate his professional career from his personal life and that this is hurting his results.

i think, tactically, he was a different player under magnus norman and it suited his game more naturally at the time because he was much slimmer. Granted, to play Rasheed's brand of tennis, there's a higher physicality prerequisite, and i dont think he's quite there yet. i think in the end, it isn't the partnership with rasheed that needs to change, since he is playing the right brand of tennis for the kind of body type they want to develop for dimitrov, but something else. perhaps mental strength late in matches and consistency week in and week out.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
i think, tactically, he was a different player under magnus norman and it suited his game more naturally at the time because he was much slimmer. Granted, to play Rasheed's brand of tennis, there's a higher physicality prerequisite, and i dont think he's quite there yet. i think in the end, it isn't the partnership with rasheed that needs to change, since he is playing the right brand of tennis for the kind of body type they want to develop for dimitrov, but something else. perhaps mental strength late in matches and consistency week in and week out.

Nah the way I see it his strokes simply aren't suited to the style of play they are trying to force him into. A one handed backhand defender will get eaten alive nowadays (see Gasquet). Federer won so much in his career because defending and scrambling was not his main strategy, but it was what he wanted to do to his opponents. The reason RF lost so much to RN at RG is that he couldn't finish the point and Nadal gradually managed to push him behind the baseline, where Roger would lose the vast majority of points. Federer never wanted to get into that position, because he knew that it is a losing position for his style of play, yet Dimitrov seems to be looking to play from that position willingly.

It almost looks to me like Dimitrov is trying to play unlike RF because he hates the baby-Fed nickname so much, but I don't get it. He was playing better, more successful tennis when he played like that, even pushing the top guys. Nowadays he just loses to almost anybody out there.

In conclusion, you don't base your style of play on your physicality, but on your strokes.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
2015. First 2 actually.

I wish that were true, but I find that to be a very optimistic stance, especially considering the performances Dimitrov has been showing lately. I would expect of him to reach the final at MC the way the field opened up if he is supposed to win a slam soon. At the moment he simply lacks a defining shot in his game. His forehand has deteriorated, his serve has gotten harder but more predictable and less accurate, his backhand gets bullied a lot due to his court positioning and tactics and he seems clueless as to how to win a point easily. No doubt it's entertaining when he has to work very hard to win a point, but he won't win titles that way.
 

Easy Rider

Professional
Never ...
Mentaly, he is very unstable
Tacticaly, Im not sure what his coach want to implement but Im sure it is nlt working
 

Easy Rider

Professional
Nah the way I see it his strokes simply aren't suited to the style of play they are trying to force him into. A one handed backhand defender will get eaten alive nowadays (see Gasquet). Federer won so much in his career because defending and scrambling was not his main strategy, but it was what he wanted to do to his opponents. The reason RF lost so much to RN at RG is that he couldn't finish the point and Nadal gradually managed to push him behind the baseline, where Roger would lose the vast majority of points. Federer never wanted to get into that position, because he knew that it is a losing position for his style of play, yet Dimitrov seems to be looking to play from that position willingly.

It almost looks to me like Dimitrov is trying to play unlike RF because he hates the baby-Fed nickname so much, but I don't get it. He was playing better, more successful tennis when he played like that, even pushing the top guys. Nowadays he just loses to almost anybody out there.

In conclusion, you don't base your style of play on your physicality, but on your strokes.

Spot on. Why inventing something that already exists and works well.
Maybe he wants to master plays that Federer never did :D if thats so, the process gonna be very painful
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
I wish that were true, but I find that to be a very optimistic stance, especially considering the performances Dimitrov has been showing lately. I would expect of him to reach the final at MC the way the field opened up if he is supposed to win a slam soon. At the moment he simply lacks a defining shot in his game. His forehand has deteriorated, his serve has gotten harder but more predictable and less accurate, his backhand gets bullied a lot due to his court positioning and tactics and he seems clueless as to how to win a point easily. No doubt it's entertaining when he has to work very hard to win a point, but he won't win titles that way.

Hey, I have the right to dream! I really wasn't expecting another breakdown of what people think is wrong with his game and why he would never amount to anything. It really has gotten tedious.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
Hey, I have the right to dream! I really wasn't expecting another breakdown of what people think is wrong with his game and why he would never amount to anything. It really has gotten tedious.

Still better than the senseless criticism we see on here mostly though ;) I still think that he will at some point get it together and start winning big titles, but I don't think it's time yet.

Sorry for interrupting your dreams though :-?
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
Still better than the senseless criticism we see on here mostly though ;) I still think that he will at some point get it together and start winning big titles, but I don't think it's time yet.

Sorry for interrupting your dreams though :-?

Nobody can do that but a woman.
 

THE FIGHTER

Hall of Fame
Nah the way I see it his strokes simply aren't suited to the style of play they are trying to force him into. A one handed backhand defender will get eaten alive nowadays (see Gasquet). Federer won so much in his career because defending and scrambling was not his main strategy, but it was what he wanted to do to his opponents. The reason RF lost so much to RN at RG is that he couldn't finish the point and Nadal gradually managed to push him behind the baseline, where Roger would lose the vast majority of points. Federer never wanted to get into that position, because he knew that it is a losing position for his style of play, yet Dimitrov seems to be looking to play from that position willingly.

It almost looks to me like Dimitrov is trying to play unlike RF because he hates the baby-Fed nickname so much, but I don't get it. He was playing better, more successful tennis when he played like that, even pushing the top guys. Nowadays he just loses to almost anybody out there.

In conclusion, you don't base your style of play on your physicality, but on your strokes.

hmmm, he's gotten more aggressive under Rasheed: more imposing strokes, better shot selection, better movement, more aggressive court positioning. check the grass season 2014 and onward.

he was more of a counter puncher/shot maker prior because he didnt have the physicality to be aggressive in multiple sets, that was my point. With Magnus Norman, Lundgren, and Sanchez-Casal, he relied too much on shot making from the defense, unlike today when he has the offense to set up putaways.
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
I see Dimitrov winning 3-4 slams. I think in the post-Fedal, post-Murrovic era, post-apocalyptic landscape, hordes f scavengers will salvage slams on the roadside.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
I see Dimitrov winning 3-4 slams. I think in the post-Fedal, post-Murrovic era, post-apocalyptic landscape, hordes f scavengers will salvage slams on the roadside.

Djokovic doesn't look like he's slowing down right now though. I know Nadal looks ragged right now but I think he has more to give at the highest level. What if Dimitrov is shut out for long enough that the generation after him matures and enters their primes and are just better players? And then there's his own generation. There's no guarantee he'll muscle in majors over the likes of Nishikori and Raonic.
 

DolgoSantoro

Professional
If Dimi wants to be a champion, he'll have to work hard and get good enough to overthrow what's left of Fedalovic. Otherwise, he'll be overshadowed by those of his generation and the next who aren't content to wait.
 
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Nathaniel_Near

Guest
nearly half the votes go to 'Never'. Interesting.

There's still a certain threshold of quality required to actually get the job done at a Slam, regardless of whether the era or conditions are strong or weak. If we took out Djokovic, Nadal, Federer AND Murray, would we still favour many players other than Dimitrov to currently to win Slams in that imaginary "weak era"? For now, probably.
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
It's not necessary to assume Dimitrov will win GS titles in future. Talent alone don't ensure you big wins. So far looking his overall progress (3 titles at 24, no Masters Final) nothing suggest he will be GS winner in future. In fact he's lucky to be part of #LostGeneration which will ensure him getting on top of the game for some duration in which he can win big titles. If he was part of any past generation, easily could have gone without winning something significant.

More relevant question could be Dimitrov's first Masters title.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Probably never. Kid is almost 24 and hasn't even gotten to a final yet. Chances are he will never get one. But who knows, he may get lucky.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
If Cilic can win a slam, anything can happen. I mean what was the predictor that Cilic would win 1? Imo nothing. The guy had never won a master or even a 500 and had never made a slam final. He had never done anything special before USO 2014. What had Soderling done on clay before reaching RG final? Absolutely zip, zilch, nada.
Which is why as goofy as it sounds, I wouldn't even rule out Murray pulling off 1 French despite having no title on the surface.
As much as some players are able to dominate the slams on a regular basis, when they don't, then it's all bets are off and "out of the blue" suddenly gets real.
 
Veroniquem;9271846]If Cilic can win a slam, anything can happen. I mean what was the predictor that Cilic would win 1? Imo nothing. al before USO 2014The guy had never won a master or even a 500 and had never made a slam final. He had never done anything speci.

Somehow makes his win even more impressive, no? :)
 

ThomasGB

Semi-Pro
Wimbledon is Dimitrov's best bet, he hasn't got very far anywhere else.
2015 will be a bad year for Dimitrov, 2016 will him bouncing back (making more SF's, and one F.), before ultimately winning in 2017 when there's an easier field.
 
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Deleted member 716271

Guest
could get a Wimbledon but doubt it will happen before 2018.

Lol @ him getting a FO
 

bjk

Hall of Fame
I never see Dimitrov play much doubles, even though his game could benefit from it. Look at Sock and Pospisil doing well after winning doubles tournaments. Winning causes winning. Dimitrov should pair up with a good doubles player and win some doubles tournaments, raise a few trophies.
 
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