Dimitrov is overrated. Will he win a slam?

Dimitrov is overrated. Will he win a slam?

  • No

    Votes: 17 29.8%
  • Yes

    Votes: 30 52.6%
  • Yes, but only when the "Big Four" have retired

    Votes: 10 17.5%

  • Total voters
    57

Ehh

Banned
Don't get me wrong, Dimitrov is ok. But nothing more. Quite a good forehand, ok backhand for a one-hander (but possibly below average when including 1hbh's and 2hbh's), yet serve isn't too flashy, and movement is suspect, and fitness is very suspect. He is quite good, and can possibly make another semifinals appearance at a Masters.

Sure, you can say that his fitness might improve, but that sort of low-level of baseline fitness is genetic, and can't be improved upon that much. His track record so far says otherwise. Why do you think most other sports select based on fitness, primarily, then skill secondarily? It's because skill can be developed whereas fitness is largely innate. Dimitrov has the potential to be relatively skillful, but he will never have the potential to be fit.

He certainly does not look like Slam winning material to me. Remember, Slams are best of 5, not best of 3, and I think his movement, backhand and fitness and mental strengths will prevent him from ever winning one - even when all of the "Big Four" have retired (Raonic will mop up then).

Let's look beyond the hype and remain level-headed. Remember, Verdasco beat Nadal here a year ago. Did that propel him to Slam-domination? Of course not. And I expect Dimitrov to have a similar career to Verdasco - that is to say dangerous, but ultimately obsolete. And minus the epic Australian Open semifinal with Nadal.
 
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Homeboy Hotel

Hall of Fame
Dimitrov's fitness reminds me of Murray in 2005 where cramp lost him matches.

Give it a couple years, he (should) get beefed up with some more gym work. He's definitely got the talent to win slams.
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
He still has room for improvement....especially physically.

So far he and Raonic are the best hope of young players.
 
First of all not overrated, and yes imo he will win a slam. Talent is there, and there's lots of it, and he's young.
 

bbfl

New User
Ehh, stop hating! You just have to admit that he is on the level of Novak and Nadal right now!
 

merwy

G.O.A.T.
As others have said Dimitrov is no Federer, not even close. But, you don't need to be Federer to win a slam, you need to be Federer to win 17 slams. I don't think he is overrated. He's proven himself to be good enough by beating Djokovic here and having his chances against Djokovic and Murray in IW and Miami. He doesn't seem so flaky and it looks as if he knows what he's doing. He's got the right technique, knows how to keep his cool, yep I'm predicting he'll win some grand slams (possibly after the big 4 retire, but I'm pretty sure he'll win them barring serious injuries)
 

*Sparkle*

Professional
He's definitely going to be a serious contender in another five years time.

He could do it before then though. I think it'll take him another couple of years before he can seriously challenge for a slam. He'll need to work on his fitness, but by the time he's built the stamina and developed his game to string a series of best of five victories together, Fed will be retired/not much of a threat, Nadal will be nursing another knee injury break, which will make it much more doable with the right draw and a good run of things.
 
He will have a long lasting rivalry with jack sock for the number 1 spot for many years to come, it will be the new fedal, socktrov.

Lets not get too caried away if you had made this poll a month ago we would have a very different result but he will win slams just not in the next few years.
 

jman

Semi-Pro
Don't get me wrong, Dimitrov is ok. But nothing more. Quite a good forehand, ok backhand for a one-hander (but possibly below average when including 1hbh's and 2hbh's), yet serve isn't too flashy, and movement is suspect, and fitness is very suspect. He is quite good, and can possibly make another semifinals appearance at a Masters.

Sure, you can say that his fitness might improve, but that sort of low-level of baseline fitness is genetic, and can't be improved upon that much. His track record so far says otherwise. Why do you think most other sports select based on fitness, primarily, then skill secondarily? It's because skill can be developed whereas fitness is largely innate. Dimitrov has the potential to be relatively skillful, but he will never have the potential to be fit.

He certainly does not look like Slam winning material to me. Remember, Slams are best of 5, not best of 3, and I think his movement, backhand and fitness and mental strengths will prevent him from ever winning one - even when all of the "Big Four" have retired (Raonic will mop up then).

Let's look beyond the hype and remain level-headed. Remember, Verdasco beat Nadal here a year ago. Did that propel him to Slam-domination? Of course not. And I expect Dimitrov to have a similar career to Verdasco - that is to say dangerous, but ultimately obsolete. And minus the epic Australian Open semifinal with Nadal.

HATER. 10chars
 
He will have a long lasting rivalry with jack sock for the number 1 spot for many years to come, it will be the new fedal, socktrov.

Lets not get too caried away if you had made this poll a month ago we would have a very different result but he will win slams just not in the next few years.

Jack Sock doesn't have Dimitrov's potential.
 

Lukhas

Legend
He has talent/technique and is young, only 21. Usually players don't hit their full potential until 25 or 26 nowadays. I hope for him he doesn't wait for that long, but it's possible for him to win a slam someday. What Federer was like when he entered the tour? Who'd think Djokovic with his stamina issues would dominate tennis back in 2007? He has time for him.
 

fedfan46

Rookie
I hadn't watched Dimitrov play until today. I was thoroughly impressed. I saw Patrick McEnroe and tennistweets.com tweeting about the match and cramps and I thought they were talking about Djokovic. I flip on to see Dimitrov narrowly lose a second set tiebreak and then win 6-3 in the final set. Very impressed with him. Overrated is not a word that should be associated with this kid
 

xanctus

Semi-Pro
Hmm, tough call but to be honest...when you win best of 3 and grand slams with 5 sets, it's like talking to completely different book here.
 

pingu

Semi-Pro
He is still young and has been able to beat some top guys. He is a smart player, and mixes his drop shots well. I do think he will win a GS one day.
 

Ehh

Banned
Hey, well I don't think he's a bad player, he has already reached the quarterfinals of a Masters, and I think, with luck, he will reach another Masters quarterfinals before his career is over.

Will he ever reach the quarterfinals of a Slam, though? I don't think he'll ever get that far in a Slam, his fitness is too poor, and so is his backhand. People say he'll improve his fitness, but with such poor genetics, there's only so much you can improve with training, unless he starts going in 'the egg', lol.
 
Hey, well I don't think he's a bad player, he has already reached the quarterfinals of a Masters, and I think, with luck, he will reach another Masters quarterfinals before his career is over.

He will reach a couple of QF in big tournaments in this year alone (barring some injury).

Whether he will reach a final in a Major/win a Major depends on many things, but the promise is there. He has to learn how to win when not at his best, and that will take some time.

Will he ever reach the quarterfinals of a Slam, though? I don't think he'll ever get that far in a Slam, his fitness is too poor, and so is his backhand. People say he'll improve his fitness, but with such poor genetics, there's only so much you can improve with training, unless he starts going in 'the egg', lol.

That statement .....
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
He's pretty good. Could have a Gasquet like career.
 
I dont know what you guys are smoking. This kid Dmitrov is 10 years younger than Federer and he is just coming out just like Federer came out 10 years after Sampras back in 2003. He is a late bloomer. So lets give him some time first of all. And he is even more dangerous than Federer coz he knows Federer's shortcomings and he doesn't have it. He was hanging with Nadal on monte carlo with that one handed backhand something which Federer couldnt do even during his peak years. He has a better forehand and a better backhand than Federer had back in 2003, very good skills at the net, very good serve and this guy is just getting started. All he needs to fix is his mental game and his movement and thats it. Dmitrov is gonna rack in slams. Make no mistake about that. He is a dynamite thats lit up thats about to go off. Its just a question of when.
 

PCXL-Fan

Hall of Fame
I dont know what you guys are smoking. This kid Dmitrov is 10 years younger than Federer and he is just coming out just like Federer came out 10 years after Sampras back in 2003. He is a late bloomer. So lets give him some time first of all. And he is even more dangerous than Federer coz he knows Federer's shortcomings and he doesn't have it. He was hanging with Nadal on monte carlo with that one handed backhand something which Federer couldnt do even during his peak years. He has a better forehand and a better backhand than Federer had back in 2003, very good skills at the net, very good serve and this guy is just getting started. All he needs to fix is his mental game and his movement and thats it. Dmitrov is gonna rack in slams. Make no mistake about that. He is a dynamite thats lit up thats about to go off. Its just a question of when.

Such a bold statement and prediction. If you are wrong I think there should be some repercussion or consequence. Perhaps wear a toupee for a day or have a silly avatar of our choosing.

If you turn out to be correct, you should be gloriously rewarded. Maybe you get $5 via paypal and we have to use silly avatars of your choosing and refer to you as a wise sage.
 

Ehh

Banned
I dont know what you guys are smoking. This kid Dmitrov is 10 years younger than Federer and he is just coming out just like Federer came out 10 years after Sampras back in 2003. He is a late bloomer. So lets give him some time first of all. And he is even more dangerous than Federer coz he knows Federer's shortcomings and he doesn't have it. He was hanging with Nadal on monte carlo with that one handed backhand something which Federer couldnt do even during his peak years. He has a better forehand and a better backhand than Federer had back in 2003, very good skills at the net, very good serve and this guy is just getting started. All he needs to fix is his mental game and his movement and thats it. Dmitrov is gonna rack in slams. Make no mistake about that. He is a dynamite thats lit up thats about to go off. Its just a question of when.

This poast is everything wrong with TT. Blatant bandwagoning and flavor-of-the-monthing.

Dimitrov is ok, and, if he plays his cards right, may reach another Masters QF or a R4 of a major if he gets a favorable draw.

Then again, I thought nothing would amount of either Federer or Nadal early in their career, so what do I know. Actually, I've never thought any player has ever deserved any hype.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
This poast is everything wrong with TT. Blatant bandwagoning and flavor-of-the-monthing.

Dimitrov is ok, and, if he plays his cards right, may reach another Masters QF or a R4 of a major if he gets a favorable draw.

Then again, I thought nothing would amount of either Federer or Nadal early in their career, so what do I know. Actually, I've never thought any player has ever deserved any hype.
Nadal had already won a major by 19, so how early are you talking about?
 
This poast is everything wrong with TT. Blatant bandwagoning and flavor-of-the-monthing.

Dimitrov is ok, and, if he plays his cards right, may reach another Masters QF or a R4 of a major if he gets a favorable draw.

Then again, I thought nothing would amount of either Federer or Nadal early in their career, so what do I know. Actually, I've never thought any player has ever deserved any hype.

What do you want?

The guy just beat the #1 in the world with some inspired tennis and despite of his deficiencies.

I wouldn't proceed as to call him the next big thing (i.e. racking up Majors), but what you are suggesting is plain ridiculous. The guy reached a match with Nadal at MC, which is as far as anyone has gotten to in the past 8 years and gave him a good fight.

Now, he is put in the most difficult part of the draw from any M1000 event in the recent years and still is in it ......

I cannot see where your thoughts about favourable draws and QF come from.
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
What do you want?

The guy just beat the #1 in the world with some inspired tennis and despite of his deficiencies.

I wouldn't proceed as to call him the next big thing (i.e. racking up Majors), but what you are suggesting is plain ridiculous. The guy reached a match with Nadal at MC, which is as far as anyone has gotten to in the past 8 years and gave him a good fight.

Now, he is put in the most difficult part of the draw from any M1000 event in the recent years and still is in it ......

I cannot see where your thoughts about favourable draws and QF come from.

I don't particularly like using the word but the guy you're responding to is a hater. He's not interested in being objective, probably not so much into the sport itself. Nobody in his right mind would denigrate Dimitrov's success/progress over the last 12 months.
 

Ehh

Banned
Nadal had already won a major by 19, so how early are you talking about?

Well, I thought Nadal was going to be a one-slam wonder. And then a two-slam wonder...etc... Same thing when Federer won his first slam.

Anyway, I don't like the chances of anyone who has never won a slam before to win a slam. Your first slam will always be the hardest to win, so until a non-slam winner has won a slam, I will never believe that they're capable of/have the potential to win one.
 

Feña14

G.O.A.T.
Personally, i'm not so sure he will. I remember when Tsonga and Monfils were the players of the moment on here, 7-8 years ago. People thought I was mad saying they wouldn't win any major titles.

No question he's a good player, and good players can win majors. Will he be able to beat Djokovic, Murray and Nadal over 5 sets, consistently enough to give himself enough chances? I'm not so sure.
 
Personally, i'm not so sure he will. I remember when Tsonga and Monfils were the players of the moment on here, 7-8 years ago. People thought I was mad saying they wouldn't win any major titles.

No question he's a good player, and good players can win majors. Will he be able to beat Djokovic, Murray and Nadal over 5 sets, consistently enough to give himself enough chances? I'm not so sure.

Tsonga's and Monfils's raise to the top was stopped by some of the best tennis players ever. Coinciding with the peak/primes of the likes of Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray, their development was somewhat hampered,but even so they still have a window to make an impact.

Dimitrov will be in a completely different situation, since the said players will be about to leave their peaks, when he starts entering his ( if his development is anything like Federer's).

He will probably face his current age group for at least 2 years worth of Majors (barring some freak occurence of very young and very talented player/s).

I am not ruling out the possibility, that the speed of the surfaces is changed again, and we face faster conditions on grass and HC. This could be a game changer, when it comes to the success of the new vs. the old generation and could greatly accelerate the rise of the likes of Dimitrov to the top.
 

PCXL-Fan

Hall of Fame
Er, maybe but Fed won 7 titles in 2003 (and 4 titles before 2003). Dimitrov's count is still 0...
And not just 7 obscure titles
1 slam, 2 Master series, 2 ATP 500 equivalent events under the new ranking system & 5 ATP 250 events.

Why can't Dimitrov win a single atp 250 title... by the time Federer was a few days from his 22 birthday he had won

- 1 Wimbledon
- 2x Masterseries - Rome and Hamburg
- Halle ATP 250
- Munich ATP 250
- Dubai ATP 500
- 1 Marseilles ATP 250
- Vienna ATP 500
- Sidney ATP 250
- Milan ATP 250
 

Netspirit

Hall of Fame
Just stop comparing Dimi to Fed talent-wise. If Dimi had a 2HBH and full-Western forehand, this thread would not even exist.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
And not just 7 obscure titles
1 slam, 2 Master series, 2 ATP 500 equivalent events under the new ranking system & 5 ATP 250 events.

Why can't Dimitrov win a single atp 250 title... by the time Federer was a few days from his 22 birthday he had won

- 1 Wimbledon
- 2x Masterseries - Rome and Hamburg
- Halle ATP 250
- Munich ATP 250
- Dubai ATP 500
- 1 Marseilles ATP 250
- Vienna ATP 500
- Sidney ATP 250
- Milan ATP 250

Fed has never won rome, but he did reach the final for the first time in 2003. He won Hamburg in 2002 and his next masters was IW in 2004.
 

Relinquis

Hall of Fame
you guys need to stop measuring him against federer... there is no point. no one stacks up next to him. once you stop comparing him to GOAT you realise that his has just made a pivotal achievement by beating the world no.1.

kid is going to go far. he has the fight now, all that is missing is a bit of experience and a bit of fitness.
 
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