Dimitrov more popular than Djokovic

Djokovic2011 said:
Nothing wrong with wanting to be liked, he doesn't rip his shirt off anymore(and only ever did it twice anyway) and nearly all players get into scuffles from time to time. There, that was easy enough for me.
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Djokovic has ripped his shirt more than twice, captain "fixed it for you". ;)
 
MichaelNadal said:
There's no one on here that's perfect, but Djokovic fans are delusional across the board and don't even seem serious with half the stuff they post because it's just that preposterous.
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Nadal fans are the most delusional of any fan base from any sport, truly horrible. What makes me laugh is that you continue to read all Nole fans' comments on here so you can't think we're that bad or you'd put us on ignore.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Nothing wrong with wanting to be liked, he doesn't rip his shirt off anymore(and only ever did it twice anyway) and nearly all players get into scuffles from time to time. There, that was easy enough for me.
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They are just reasons why people might not like him. People also tend to think back to the times Djokovic did rip off his shirt and it may turn them off him.

Every player does get into scuffles, that is true, but mainly all of Djokovic's scuffles have resulted from his (or his family's) huge ego. Djokovic blatantly mocked Roddick after beating him at the USO in 2008 because he believed he was so much better than he was, and it resulted in a minor scuffle. That was my point.
 
Chico said:
Fadal fanboys hate Novak for schooling their idols since 2011, that is why.
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How are the said "Fedal fanboys" responsible for Djokovic not even coming 3rd?!

I mean even if all the "Fedal fanboys" voted, they must have voted for Federer and Nadal, right? How did they make sure that Djokovic doesn't even get the third spot? It's not like they swiped "NOPE" on Djokovic, like you do on Tinder. :lol:

#LogicNotevenwhince
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Nadal fans are the most delusional of any fan base from any sport, truly horrible. What makes me laugh is that you continue to read all Nole fans' comments on here so you can't think we're that bad or you'd put us on ignore.
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Djokovic fans are worse than Nadal fans. Why do you think Federer/Nadal fans join forces against the Djokovic fans? :lol:
 
Sabratha said:
They are just reasons why people might not like him. People also tend to think back to the times Djokovic did rip off his shirt and it may turn them off him.

Every player does get into scuffles, that is true, but mainly all of Djokovic's scuffles have resulted from his (or his family's) huge ego. Djokovic blatantly mocked Roddick after beating him at the USO in 2008 because he believed he was so much better than he was, and it resulted in a minor scuffle. That was my point.
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In the words of Joe E. Brown, nobody's perfect.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Nadal fans are the most delusional of any fan base from any sport, truly horrible. What makes me laugh is that you continue to read all Nole fans' comments on here so you can't think we're that bad or you'd put us on ignore.
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Finally, you're starting to realize regardless of how I feel about something, it's still not that serious. I mean what I say alright :lol: it's just not bothering me personally, because I'd never let it.
 
Sabratha said:
Djokovic fans are worse than Nadal fans. Why do you think Federer/Nadal fans join forces against the Djokovic fans? :lol:
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LOL, that doesn't mean that Djokovic fans are worse, not by a long chalk. You're only saying that because you don't like Nole.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
LOL, that doesn't mean that Djokovic fans are worse, not by a long chalk. You're only saying that because you don't like Nole.
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When I first joined this forum, I didn't mind Djokovic at all. He was not my favorite player but he was not one of my least favorite players either. His fans have slowly changed my mind about him and his achievements, since they so freely attack/put down any player that belonged to Nadal and Federer's generation.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
In the words of Joe E. Brown, nobody's perfect.
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Someone who is at the top of the sport should be showing a better example than Djokovic did during those times. Recently he has been much better though.
 
Sabratha said:
Someone who is at the top of the sport should be showing a better example than Djokovic did during those times. Recently he has been much better though.
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Quoted for truth. Too bad his fans can't do the same, because he'd have more fans, at least from TTW.
 
Sabratha said:
When I first joined this forum, I didn't mind Djokovic at all. He was not my favorite player but he was not one of my least favorite players either. His fans have slowly changed my mind about him and his achievements, since they so freely attack/put down any player that belonged to Nadal and Federer's generation.
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Maybe his fans are so vociferous because they're proud of his achievements, especially in recent years and want to get that across amidst all the Fedal talk that we're constantly seeing. That doesn't mean we're annoying, just passionate. Sometimes you gotta scream loud to get heard in the crowd.
 
Sabratha said:
Don't forget SpicyCurry.
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See what I'm talking about, domestic troll laughs at one of fineest knowledgable posters here who just happened to be Novak fan.
 
MaiDee said:
I do not agree. vs. Alex was 17, against Pospisil more than 20 spectators.
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Yeah, :( but did you see how Basel crowd booed poor Ivo for those aces against Federer, cheeering loudley for his DF even booed him when he won a set, beside his tennis , man is such nice guy, humorous and genuine.
 
uliks said:
I just noticed that Grigor is 3rd and Novak 4th in this year ATPWorldTour.com Fans’ Favourite competition. :confused:

So the guy with only one GS semifinal appearance in his career, globally is more popular, admired and recognizable than the current world number 1, current Wimbledon champion and 7 time GS winner...

How the hell is this even possible :shock:
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True tennis fans appreciate the rules of tennis and fair play and beautiful play as well.

Just think:

1> How many times do Djoko bounce the ball before he serve? And, how many times do Dimitrov bounce the ball before he serve?

2> How many times do Djoko get time violation warnings this year? And, how many times do Grigor get time violation warnings this year?

3> How many unbelievable spectacular shots did Dimitrov make in recent tournaments? How many did Djokovic make ? Hell even Dimi magic shots made it into the most famous tennis forum in the world!

Dimitrov is more magical and exciting and have more variety of shots than the boring Djoko, regardless how many GS titles they have been hoarding.

You can get more fans by playing magically. You can get more GS titles by playing tediously and boringly just like working in a sausage factory. Even Fed admitted he started winning more matches by reducing his spectacular shot makings and play more high percentage winning tennis. Fed used to like to hit spectacular and unusual shots a lot just to wow the crowd or to show off, but that did not help him winning matches, so he did those shots more sparingly.
 
Hitting tweener and behind the back winners and hot dogging every match can easily make someone a fan favorite. Hell, Gael Monfils might even be more popular than Nole. Who the hell cares? Djokovic is the best player in the world. I don't give a damn if he's the least popular player on the ATP; he's a champion.
 
Popularity is measured differently from career achievements. No need to mix them up unless you want to stir **** up.
 
Maximagq said:
Hitting tweener and behind the back winners and hot dogging every match can easily make someone a fan favorite. Hell, Gael Monfils might even be more popular than Nole. Who the hell cares? Djokovic is the best player in the world. I don't give a damn if he's the least popular player on the ATP; he's a champion.
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You think hitting winning tweeners in a pro match is scientifically easy? How come it does not happen so often?

If Novak is the best player in the world, how come he has not won French Open title yet?
 
Starbuckingham said:
You think hitting winning tweeners in a pro match is scientifically easy? How come it does not happen so often?

If Novak is the best player in the world, how come he has not won French Open title yet?
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I'm not Max's solicitor, but where did you get the idea he thinks tweeners are easy? His comment was clearly accepting their effect in terms of popularity of the player. Why does the French Open title determine who the best player is? The Association of Tennis Professionals and the International Tennis Federation must have been named by some drunken intern. It should, instead, all be the Roland Garros World Tour, right?
 
Djokovic2011 said:
Maybe his fans are so vociferous because they're proud of his achievements, especially in recent years and want to get that across amidst all the Fedal talk that we're constantly seeing. That doesn't mean we're annoying, just passionate. Sometimes you gotta scream loud to get heard in the crowd.
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Oh, so that justifies putting down our own favorite players? Calling players like Roddick scrubs and pigeons? Insulting a whole era with your weak era nonsense (which you currently bring up more than Rafa fans)? Searching for all kinds of hypothetical situations in order to discredit the achievements of certain players? Seriously?
 
uliks said:
I just noticed that Grigor is 3rd and Novak 4th in this year ATPWorldTour.com Fans’ Favourite competition. :confused:



So the guy with only one GS semifinal appearance in his career, globally is more popular, admired and recognizable than the current world number 1, current Wimbledon champion and 7 time GS winner...

How the hell is this even possible :shock:
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I wouldn't use this particular poll as proof of popularity because people can vote endless number of times even with the same email address and I also read somewhere that Fedfans have a multiple voting system going.

The most popular player on the social media is Nadal. They should just use that to determine the winner of the award.
 
On social media, Nole is far, far more popular than Dimi. On FB and Twitter, Nole has a total of 8,995,962 and Dimi has a total of 682,739.

As Noelan pointed out, this is nothing but a marketing exercise by sponsors.
 
LazyNinja19 said:
Hey, that's not fair. :mad: Those incidences were in 2008 & 2010. And DjokovicTwothousandeleven only started watching tennis in twothousandeleven. Duh!

Anything before twothousandeleven doesn't count, and you should know that babe. ;)
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This doesn't help Nole's case I have to admit. He's still got less than 10m followers on FB and twitter and Rafa has 7m on twitter alone plus almost 15m on FB. Nadal is streets ahead of the lot of them with Fed only clocking a total of 17m on both FB and twitter.
 
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clayqueen said:
On social media, Nole is far, far more popular than Dimi. On FB and Twitter, Nole has a total of 8,995,962 and Dimi has a total of 682,739.

As Noelan pointed out, this is nothing but a marketing exercise by sponsors.
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As your life experience and education only extends to social media and Wikipedia, I have to inform you that the majority of the general public is not similarly limited. Numbers on FB and Twitter do not govern the numbers of tennis fans who love tennis for the tennis and give their approval outside the TW hate paradigm.
 
Russeljones said:
As your life experience and education only extends to social media and Wikipedia, I have to inform you that the majority of the general public is not similarly limited. Numbers on FB and Twitter do not govern the numbers of tennis fans who love tennis for the tennis and give their approval outside the TW hate paradigm.
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Nor do polls govern the number of people who love tennis, but you have to use some kind of measure and I can't think of a better one than social media. When Fed was leading on FB, that was hailed as the definitive proof of popularity now that Rafa has overtaken him, social media is being derided.
 
Starbuckingham said:
You think hitting winning tweeners in a pro match is scientifically easy? How come it does not happen so often?

If Novak is the best player in the world, how come he has not won French Open title yet?
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Is English not your first language? I never said it was easy; I said that if you were a flashy player who likes to show off and hit showboat shots for the highlight reel like Dimitrov does, you are going to win a lot of fans.

Bolded point is a straw man argument. Djokovic has had the best results this year with one major, four Masters 1000s, and Beijing. Why has your boy Nadal not won WTF?

Russeljones said:
I'm not Max's solicitor, but where did you get the idea he thinks tweeners are easy? His comment was clearly accepting their effect in terms of popularity of the player. Why does the French Open title determine who the best player is? The Association of Tennis Professionals and the International Tennis Federation must have been named by some drunken intern. It should, instead, all be the Roland Garros World Tour, right?
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Thank you Russel.
 
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Russeljones said:
As your life experience and education only extends to social media and Wikipedia, I have to inform you that the majority of the general public is not similarly limited. Numbers on FB and Twitter do not govern the numbers of tennis fans who love tennis for the tennis and give their approval outside the TW hate paradigm.
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I agree with your statement generally, and personally I don't care who's got how many followers on FB/Twitter etc etc. But you do understand, that only those fans vote who keep a tab on these kind of polls, and follow their fav. players &/or ATP on the social media?!
A regular tennis fan, who is not on the social media wouldn't just read about this poll in the newspaper and then login to make his vote count. No.
It's only the ones who're actually on the social media etc., that vote for such kind of polls.

Before I started following Tennis regularly, I was just a regular fan of the sport and had not even heard about such kind of polls and trophies.
 
clayqueen said:
Nor do polls govern the number of people who love tennis, but you have to use some kind of measure and I can't think of a better one than social media. When Fed was leading on FB, that was hailed as the definitive proof of popularity now that Rafa has overtaken him, social media is being derided.
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No, social media is not a good metric and it never was. It's not like only Rafa fans like Rafa's Facebook page (that also is not the case for Federer). Also, there may be a few Federer fans who still like Rafa and therefore like his fb page (just an example, which coincidentally includes myself). The number does not indicate anything really, as it lacks context.
 
Russeljones said:
As your life experience and education only extends to social media and Wikipedia, I have to inform you that the majority of the general public is not similarly limited. Numbers on FB and Twitter do not govern the numbers of tennis fans who love tennis for the tennis and give their approval outside the TW hate paradigm.
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So true. Rod Laver is an avid tennis fan who helps promote tennis around the world, watches tennis live in AO and Indian Wells. I doubt it if he is on FB or Twitter.
 
Djokovic obviously isn't the most popular player, especially when compared to FEDAL, but I gotta believe he's still more popular than Dimitrov lol .

I question how many people actually took the time to vote on ATPWorldTour.com
 
Maximagq said:
Hitting tweener and behind the back winners and hot dogging every match can easily make someone a fan favorite. Hell, Gael Monfils might even be more popular than Nole. Who the hell cares? Djokovic is the best player in the world. I don't give a damn if he's the least popular player on the ATP; he's a champion.
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I like where you're going with this post, and agree at least in the sense that you really SHOULDN'T care what people think or how popular your player is. Way too many posters here care far too deeply about these guys.
 
Sabratha said:
When I first joined this forum, I didn't mind Djokovic at all. He was not my favorite player but he was not one of my least favorite players either. His fans have slowly changed my mind about him and his achievements, since they so freely attack/put down any player that belonged to Nadal and Federer's generation.
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I absolutely get this! Less in terms of the big 3 as they all seem to have barking fanatics ( I have no personal favourite, so no bias). But I've definitely changed my opinion on Sharapova, whom I could barely tolerate, as the SW fanatics take malevolence to a whole new level. Hingis & Seles I like a great deal more because of some of the twisted sick stuff written about them.
That said, there is the other side, where my view has altered positively given some of the enlightened, interesting, informative posts.
 
Maximagq said:
Hitting tweener and behind the back winners and hot dogging every match can easily make someone a fan favorite. Hell, Gael Monfils might even be more popular than Nole. Who the hell cares? Djokovic is the best player in the world. I don't give a damn if he's the least popular player on the ATP; he's a champion.
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Excellent post. The best player indeed! For the last 4 years.
 
Rafa might indeed have more (teen girl) FANS on twitter/FB, but this poll simply reflects on tennis loving public's opinion on the best player, whose tennis and personality they most love to watch ON TENNIS COURT.

And believe it or not, I personally have three most exciting players that I've CLEARLY watched the most. They are: Federer/Dimitrov/Nadal. Surprise.

And I hate Murray's tennis and personality. And I see Djokovic's tennis as dull. Surprise, so does general public.

This poll is simply about enjoyability of tennis, not about amount of fangirls.
 
MichaelNadal said:
Have several seats. He spent half of this year at #2. And had the second best season in 2013. 1 slam a year isn't domination, no matter how much you wish it were so.
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But overall he's the player with the most weeks at #1 since 2011. Even blind hater like yourself can't deny this fact. So Chico's post in this regard has some value...
 
MichaelNadal said:
Have several seats. He spent half of this year at #2. And had the second best season in 2013. 1 slam a year isn't domination, no matter how much you wish it were so.
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THEY TOLD US NOT TO TELL CHICO THAT! IT UPSETS HIM.

All jokes aside.. Nadal was far and away the better player last season.
 
uliks said:
But overall he's the player with the most weeks at #1 since 2011. Even blind hater like yourself can't deny this fact. So Chico's post in this regard has some value...
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If weeks at number 1 were the only barometer, this would be true.

However, why should we only focus on when Novak began winning majors? Nadal is the best player of the last 6 years, on account of winning 7 majors (more than djokovic) since the beginning of 2010.

Why does Djokovic get to include his peak year and Nadal does not?
 
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