discuss :: only way novak djokovic win 2021 RG is thiem goes nadal 's half

skypadq

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this is only chance that novak djokovic could win 2021 RG
has to be thiem goes nadal 's half draw and meet semi final
this is only chance for novak djokovic
pray thiem beat nadal or drag five set
novak fans , pray in 2021 RG , thiem goes nadal 's half
if dominic thiem goes novak 's half , novak can 't win RG
we all know this
 
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Deleted member 770948

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Thiem is a harmless little wimp, because Thiem has only ever won ONE set from Nadal in 13 attempts.
And the only set Thiem won was followed by very lopsided Nadal sets- 63 57 61 61.
So Nadal will be physically fresh after beating Thiem, and actually Thiem helps Nadal get into form.
Thiem only hurts Djokovic at Roland Garros.
 

skypadq

Hall of Fame
Thiem doesn't take energy from Nadal away, because Thiem has only ever won ONE set in 13 attempts.
And the only set Thiem won was followed by very lopsided Nadal sets- 63 57 61 61.
So Nadal will be physically fresh after beating Thiem.
so no chance for novak djokovic ?
 
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Deleted member 770948

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i agree
but don 't you think thiem is second favorite for 2021 RG ? i mean ... who else ?
I think Djokovic is more likely to take a set off Nadal at Roland Garros than Thiem is.
So I'd say Djokovic is the 2nd favorite.
Djokovic usually takes a set (and sometimes more) off Nadal at Roland Garros, while Thiem has only done it once.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
this is only chance that novak djokovic could win 2021 RG
has to be thiem goes nadal 's half draw and meet semi final
this is only chance for novak djokovic
pray thiem beat nadal or drag five set
novak fans , pray in 2021 RG , thiem goes nadal 's half
if dominic thiem goes novak 's half , novak can 't win RG
we all know this

It's not relevant. Thiem is better on HC now and has taken one set from Nadal combined in all of their FO meetings and Novak is way past his best at the FO.

Best chance of Nadal losing 2021 FO is some outsider upsetting him, Novak and Thiem won't do any damage to him.
 

skypadq

Hall of Fame
It's not relevant. Thiem is better on HC now and has taken one set from Nadal combined in all of their FO meetings and Novak is way past his best at the FO.

Best chance of Nadal losing 2021 FO is some outsider upsetting him, Novak and Thiem won't do any damage to him.
i really don 't see another robin soderling happen really
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
It's not relevant. Thiem is better on HC now and has taken one set from Nadal combined in all of their FO meetings and Novak is way past his best at the FO.

Best chance of Nadal losing 2021 FO is some outsider upsetting him, Novak and Thiem won't do any damage to him.
Thiem is not better on hardcourt, lol. Time to stop this myth. And he definitely can beat Nadal there. Why would anyone care of past meetings? Soderling also lost 3 matches out of 4 to Nadal in straight sets. Right now Thiem has a big advantage in their matchup, especially mental.
 

skypadq

Hall of Fame
Thiem is not better on hardcourt, lol. Time to stop this myth. And he definitely can beat Nadal there. Why would anyone care of past meetings? Soderling also lost 3 matches out of 4 to Nadal in straight sets. Right now Thiem has a big advantage in their matchup, especially mental.
yes , this
in 2021 RG , only dominic thiem can beat nadal i think
if thiem has right gear and right start ,
who knows , maybe ?
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Thiem is not better on hardcourt, lol.

At this stage of his career? Sure he is. It's self-evident. Whether we're talking on slam or masters level.

Time to stop this myth. And he definitely can beat Nadal there. Why would anyone care of past meetings? Soderling also lost 3 matches out of 4 to Nadal in straight sets. Right now Thiem has a big advantage in their matchup, especially mental.

He'll get smoked by Nadal at the FO next year if he even reaches him.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
At this stage of his career? Sure he is. It's self-evident. Whether we're talking on slam or masters level.



He'll get smoked by Nadal at the FO next year if he even reaches him.
Get real. How many times Nadal has to lose for you (and some others) to finally admit he is nowhere near his prime now? In their last 2 matches Thiem wasn't the better player, but he was better MENTALLY. Nadal is old, he can't play big points anymore. And if he can't win big points against Thiem on hardcourt, then on clay it is going to be even worse. Because yes, clay is definitely Thiem's best surface. He just never had such luck in RG like he did in USO this year.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Get real. How many times Nadal has to lose for you (and some others) to finally admit he is nowhere near his prime now? In their last 2 matches Thiem wasn't the better player, but he was better MENTALLY. Nadal is old, he can't play big points anymore. And if he can't win big points against Thiem on hardcourt, then on clay it is going to be even worse. Because yes, clay is definitely Thiem's best surface. He just never had such luck in RG like he did in USO this year.

I didn't say he's in his prime now. I'm saying he's still a couple of levels above the field at the FO and that Timmie and Novak aren't threats to him at this point there.

We can revisit this thread after Nadal wins 2021 FO without dropping a set.
 
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Nadal was playing better at 2020 Roland Garros than at 2019 Roland Garros, and Djokovic made it close in the 3rd Set 7-5.
I doubt Thiem would have made it that close if he had to play 2020 Nadal at Roland Garros.
Heck, Thiem barely beat Zverev at the US Open....
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I didn't say he's in his prime now. I'm saying he's still a couple of levels above the field at the FO and that Timmie and Novak aren't threats to him at this point there.

We can revisit this thread after Nadal wins 2021 FO without dropping a set.

In hot conditions too :love:
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Nadal played better in the 2020 French Open Final than any other French Open since 2010.

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mehdimike

Hall of Fame
Get real. How many times Nadal has to lose for you (and some others) to finally admit he is nowhere near his prime now? In their last 2 matches Thiem wasn't the better player, but he was better MENTALLY. Nadal is old, he can't play big points anymore. And if he can't win big points against Thiem on hardcourt, then on clay it is going to be even worse. Because yes, clay is definitely Thiem's best surface. He just never had such luck in RG like he did in USO this year.
It's not. His best performances happened to be at Hardcourt. Could you name some of his impressive achievements on Clay?
At least, Thiem himself admitted that playing against Rafa on hard is easier than on clay.

AND it doesn't matter even if clay is his best surface. The fact is Rafa is something else on clay irrespective of Thiem's power or form or game plan etc. on claycourts
 
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tennis_pro

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what if thiem no go in nadal half of draw, then tired and very exhaausted little to no chance no chance to beat all of thiem and nadal and then hard, very hard win beat all
 
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