Division I Men's Team Indoors

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The brackets would look like this today (although they certainly will not look like this at the event):

(1) Virginia vs. (16) Washington
(8 ) Stanford vs. (9) Georgia

(4) Ohio State vs. (13) Duke
(5) Texas vs. (12) Louisville

(3) Tennessee vs. (14) Texas Tech
(6) UCLA vs. (11) Kentucky

(7) Florida vs. (10) Texas A&M
(2) Southern Cal vs. (15) Illinois

I'm guessing UGA and TAMU would be switched to avoid the Florida-Georgia matchup in the first round.

As I said above, this will NOT be the way the bracket ends up. A lot of teams have matches the next two weekends and that will impact the rankings the bracket is based on. Virginia and Kentucky play this weekend, so one of those teams will definitely move down.

I'll make any updates when the new team rankings come out Thursday.
 
This a Seattle tennis enthusiast's dream weekend during winter/monsoon season.

2 weeeeeeeeeks!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish there was a countdown clock on here or the Sabre.
 
man i wish the brackets would stay like this...

i think duke would stand a very good chance against ohio state (rola has clearly shown himself to be damn good, but i have next to zero respect for buchanan as a top-tier #1 guy...been betting against him all fall in this forum, and he hasn't disappointed me with early exits in the AA and Indoors)...and i think duke would be favored against texas judging by their respective results against michigan (limited sample size as that is)

like you said though, things will likely shift around quite a bit...on that note, when do the rankings become this-years-results based and not some guys marginally tweaking last-years final rankings week to week?
 
Expect a strong showing from Stanford in this event. This team performs better when playing against the best.
 
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We'll see. That Texas Tech match on Thursday should be interesting.
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Texas Tech seems like Stanford: strength at the top rather than in depth, but I expect them to lose at the top to Stanford, so I think Texas Tech is more of a threat to a deep but not top-strong team like Texas.
 
ClarkC said:
Texas Tech seems like Stanford: strength at the top rather than in depth, but I expect them to lose at the top to Stanford, so I think Texas Tech is more of a threat to a deep but not top-strong team like Texas.
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Texas Tech's #1 does have wins over Chase Buchanan, John Peers, and Jose Hernandez this season.
 
UCLA qualifies for team Indoors. Looks like they are bringing couple of strong talented freshmen. #1 Koskowski looks like he could go pro soon--maybe. and #4 Clay Thompson could beat guys during warmup by scaring them to submission with his size alone.....lol. 6'6" giant-- could play linebacker for sandiego chargers....


#6 UCLA 4, #27 Florida State 1
Jan 29, 2011 at Los Angeles, CA (Los Angeles Tennis Center)


Doubles
1. Inbar/Puget (UCLA) vs. Mirzadeh/Smith (FSU) 6-7, Susp.
2. Alex Brigham/Seguso (UCLA) def. Bowles/Davis (FSU) 8-6
3. Kosakowski/Thompson (UCLA) def. Bucaro/Reed (FSU) 8-6
UCLA Wins Doubles Point

Singles
1. Daniel Kosakowski (UCLA) def. #37 Clint Bowles (FSU) 6-4, 6-0
2. #86 Amit Inbar (UCLA) vs. #42 Vahid Mirzadeh (FSU) 4-6, 1-5, Susp.
3. Connor Smith (FSU) def. #64 Maxime Tabatruong (UCLA) 6-0, 6-2
4. Clay Thompson (UCLA) vs. Blake Davis (FSU) 0-6, 7-5, 1-2, Susp.
5. Adrien Puget (UCLA) def. Anderson Reed (FSU) 6-1, 7-6 (7-4)
6. Holden Seguso (UCLA) def. Andres Bucaro (FSU) 6-2, 6-2


Match Notes
Florida State 5-2; National ranking #27
UCLA 4-0; National ranking #6
Order of finish: Doubles (2,3); Singles (3,6,1,5)
 
it doesn't look like a strong showing from UCLA.... they were close to lose several matches if they hadn't been stopped early. Kosak looks strong, but the rest of the team seem a bit shaky.
 
db379 said:
it doesn't look like a strong showing from UCLA.... they were close to lose several matches if they hadn't been stopped early. Kosak looks strong, but the rest of the team seem a bit shaky.
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Hillarious,,,,Amit Inbar's score looks like it was stopped 3 seconds before he lost. I will bet he stalled it with injury timeout so his match wouldn't finish.
 
Against UCLA, the Cards would win at: #1, #2, #3, #5 and or #6, and the doubles. It's too bad that the only strong player in their team couldn't get into Stanford, we would have had a NCAA winning team for sure! ;)
 
db379 said:
it doesn't look like a strong showing from UCLA.... they were close to lose several matches if they hadn't been stopped early. Kosak looks strong, but the rest of the team seem a bit shaky.
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let's remember that they played the #27 team in the country, while stanford had some similarly shaky performances (especially clayton's matches, but also lin and kandath) against teams ranked outside the top 40 and outside the top 50

and yes, i know, the rankings are pretty iffy at this point of the year...but i'd bet the farm that fsu finishes the season ranked significantly above either of the two teams stanford took down
 
db379 said:
Against UCLA, the Cards would win at: #1, #2, #3, #5 and or #6, and the doubles. It's too bad that the only strong player in their team couldn't get into Stanford, we would have had a NCAA winning team for sure! ;)
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fortunately we'll have multiple opportunities to see if stanford is head-and-shoulders better than ucla (as you seem to claim) in the coming weeks

as i've said before, i think we'll find that they're about even and ucla might even take them down (despite the fact that their #1 player - at least in last year's singles order - is out for the season)

imagine how good stanford would be without klahn - maybe good enough to win the DIII title :)

oh how i'm glad it's that time of the year where teams have to back up their fans' bold statements - glad i haven't been predicting dominant victories over a great team like ucla (a la db) or national championships (a la fedace) for my devils to have to live up to :)
 
From what your saying, it sounds as though the Cards are going to blow the Bruins out of the water. UCLA's weak spot in singles is #2 and #3. I'm not really sure how Max (at 3) will do the rest of the season considering how big of a jump he made, and I honestly see Amit getting beat quite a bit. However, against Stanford, I would really wait a while before placing a lockdown bet on a Clayton victory at #3. As for the bottom 3 spots, I definitely do not see Lin overcoming Thompson. Hirschman and Puget will definitely be an interesting match. I'm also not sure how you guys concur on a Kandath victory over Seguso, when it's quite easy to see that Matt is one of the most vulnerable players in the lineup.

The doubles point right now, I would definitely say is in ULCA's favor. You guys will win at #1, but 2 and 3 are in the Bruins favor.

This is just my take on it.
 
Jakes On A Plane said:
From what your saying, it sounds as though the Cards are going to blow the Bruins out of the water. UCLA's weak spot in singles is #2 and #3. I'm not really sure how Max (at 3) will do the rest of the season considering how big of a jump he made, and I honestly see Amit getting beat quite a bit. However, against Stanford, I would really wait a while before placing a lockdown bet on a Clayton victory at #3. As for the bottom 3 spots, I definitely do not see Lin overcoming Thompson. Hirschman and Puget will definitely be an interesting match. I'm also not sure how you guys concur on a Kandath victory over Seguso, when it's quite easy to see that Matt is one of the most vulnerable players in the lineup.

The doubles point right now, I would definitely say is in ULCA's favor. You guys will win at #1, but 2 and 3 are in the Bruins favor.

This is just my take on it.
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Max at #3 is a tough match. Alex will have to play his best tennis to pull that out. Otherwise #1 and #2 and 5 and 6 and doubles favor Stanford. So this is a breeze if they meet. I also like our chances against USC as well though this will be a tougher matchup.
 
mikej said:
fortunately we'll have multiple opportunities to see if stanford is head-and-shoulders better than ucla (as you seem to claim) in the coming weeks

as i've said before, i think we'll find that they're about even and ucla might even take them down (despite the fact that their #1 player - at least in last year's singles order - is out for the season)

imagine how good stanford would be without klahn - maybe good enough to win the DIII title :)

oh how i'm glad it's that time of the year where teams have to back up their fans' bold statements - glad i haven't been predicting dominant victories over a great team like ucla (a la db) or national championships (a la fedace) for my devils to have to live up to :)
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Really? You haven't been predicting a win for Duke against Ohio St. maybe...?

mikej said:
man i wish the brackets would stay like this...

i think duke would stand a very good chance against ohio state (rola has clearly shown himself to be damn good, but i have next to zero respect for buchanan as a top-tier #1 guy...been betting against him all fall in this forum, and he hasn't disappointed me with early exits in the AA and Indoors)...and i think duke would be favored against texas judging by their respective results against michigan (limited sample size as that is)

like you said though, things will likely shift around quite a bit...on that note, when do the rankings become this-years-results based and not some guys marginally tweaking last-years final rankings week to week?
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I'm certainly glad I'm not making any predictions against a top player like Buchanan (à la mikej...). ;)
 
db379 said:
Really? You haven't been predicting a win for Duke against Ohio St. maybe...?

I'm certainly glad I'm not making any predictions against a top player like Buchanan (à la mikej...). ;)
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"stands a very good chance against" and saying that rola is going to be tough is a lot different from saying my team "would win at" (with no qualifiers mind you) all but one position in a team match...honestly i continue to have a hard time believing that you and fedace have stanford degrees, you really don't hold up against the stanford grads i've met in terms of high-level thinking

(i'm aware none of us on here care to really post our info and verify our credentials, so fair enough if your comeback is that i'm not this or that either)

yep, i've been 2/2 so far betting against buchanan...if i go 2/3 i'll survive, that's a pretty good batting percentage :)
 
By the time Stanford plays UCLA, I have to think that Holden Seguso will be healthier and playing higher in the lineup, which will change the matchups being discussed.
 
mikej said:
"stands a very good chance against" and saying that rola is going to be tough is a lot different from saying my team "would win at" (with no qualifiers mind you) all but one position in a team match...honestly i continue to have a hard time believing that you and fedace have stanford degrees, you really don't hold up against the stanford grads i've met in terms of high-level thinking

(i'm aware none of us on here care to really post our info and verify our credentials, so fair enough if your comeback is that i'm not this or that either)

yep, i've been 2/2 so far betting against buchanan...if i go 2/3 i'll survive, that's a pretty good batting percentage :)
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You really are a funny one... I certainly don't have a hard time believing you don't have a degree from Stanford or any other top school. Enough said. :)
 
Fedace said:
Max at #3 is a tough match. Alex will have to play his best tennis to pull that out. Otherwise #1 and #2 and 5 and 6 and doubles favor Stanford. So this is a breeze if they meet. I also like our chances against USC as well though this will be a tougher matchup.
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I mean, with how bad Alex is playing, you're probably right about Max having a better chance in the match. If you think the overall match is going to be a breeze, you're dreaming.
 
I have never been convinced that Maxime Tabatruong was the caliber of player who should be in the top half of the lineup at a top 10 school. If Nick Meister were healthy, Tabatruong would not be in the top half for UCLA. In terms of overall tennis talent, I cannot see Max and Alex Clayton being in the same league. In terms of their present form, who knows what would happen if they played. Clayton lost to lower players than Max a week or so ago.
 
Alex looking to regain his old form once again. I am sure he will be back to his old self by the time ITA indoor starts. I don't see how Stanford could lose once this happens. We have the best player in NCAA. and Alex himself almost won the NCAA championships only to fall short to Somdev in the semis. and Hirschman is now serving bombs. and Kandath at #6 is unbeatable.
and doubles,,probably best teams in NCAA.
 
Even your cohorts on here believe Kandath to be the weakest and most vulnerable player in your lineup. His one win in dual matches so far has been against Sac. St. He couldn't even come through against Santa Clara and Nebraska. That's sooooooooo dominating!!!

How is the dubs team of Clayton/Kelly the best #2 dubs team in the NCAA?
 
Jakes On A Plane said:
Even your cohorts on here believe Kandath to be the weakest and most vulnerable player in your lineup. His one win in dual matches so far has been against Sac. St. He couldn't even come through against Santa Clara and Nebraska. That's sooooooooo dominating!!!

How is the dubs team of Clayton/Kelly the best #2 dubs team in the NCAA?
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It might be best to leave the troll alone. He enjoys negative attention. It is a psychological perversion that deserves our pity. Just wait until Stanford actually plays in the team indoors against someone good.
 
Fedace said:
and Hirschman is now serving bombs. and Kandath at #6 is unbeatable.
and doubles,,probably best teams in NCAA.
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Jakes On A Plane said:
Even your cohorts on here believe Kandath to be the weakest and most vulnerable player in your lineup. His one win in dual matches so far has been against Sac. St. He couldn't even come through against Santa Clara and Nebraska. That's sooooooooo dominating!!!
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As far as I'm concerned, Kandath is certainly not unbeatable, even at #6. He's actually a huge deception... He could be a good bottom half player, but he seem to be mentally too weak. So yeah, we'll give Kandath's point to pretty much anyone I suppose.
 
These Texas Tech team doesnt' look too bad. Team Brazil made Cal bears look pretty bad in the regionals.

ITA Kick-Off Weekend - 2nd Round

#15 Texas Tech 4, #19 California 1

Doubles - Order of Finish: 1, 2,

1. Raony Carvalho/Rafael Garcia (TT) def. Ben McLachlan and Pedro Zerbini (CAL), 8-3

2. Vitor Manzini/Gonzalo Escobar (TT) def. #13 Nick Andrews/Chris Konigsfeldt (CAL), 8-5

3. David Gonzalez/Raphael Pfister (TT) vs. Bozhidar Katsarov/Sky Lovill (CAL), 7-4 - susp.

Singles - Order of Finish: 2, 6, 1, 3

1. #20 Gonzalo Escobar (TT) def. Pedro Zerbini (CAL), 6-1, 6-3

2. Raony Carvalho (TT) def. #50 Chris Konigsfeldt (CAL), 6-3, 6-0

3. #59 Rafael Garcia (TT) def. Carlos Cueto (CAL), 4-6, 6-3, 6-3

4. Vitor Manzini (TT) vs. Nick Andrews (CAL), 5-7, 7-5, 33 - susp.

5. Gabriel Wanderley (TT) vs. Ben McLachan (CAL), 6-7, 6-4, 2-1 - susp.

6. Bozhidar Katsarov (CAL) def. Raphael Pfister (TT), 7-6, 6-1
 
Fedace said:
These Texas Tech team doesnt' look too bad. Team Brazil made Cal bears look pretty bad in the regionals.

ITA Kick-Off Weekend - 2nd Round
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wow,Cal got a good spanking from al those foreign players of TT...I thought Zerbini was supposed to be on his way to the pros ... no match for team Brazil
 
SoCal10s said:
wow,Cal got a good spanking from al those foreign players of TT...I thought Zerbini was supposed to be on his way to the pros ... no match for team Brazil
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Raony Carvalho is a personal pupil of Guga Kuerten. He used to hit with Guga when he was a child. I read this somewhere.....:) Chris Konigsfelt ate a bagel in 2nd set.
 
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my main man feddie:

any score predictions for tomorrow? i myself am not so sure who i have winning this match - if i had the chance to bet after the dubs pt i'd take whoever wins that - meaning i don't see either team running away with the singles

i think thacher's match could well be the big one in singles - and i'm not so sure i have him winning that one
 
mikej said:
my main man feddie:

any score predictions for tomorrow? i myself am not so sure who i have winning this match - if i had the chance to bet after the dubs pt i'd take whoever wins that - meaning i don't see either team running away with the singles

i think thacher's match could well be the big one in singles - and i'm not so sure i have him winning that one
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Stanford will win the doubles and #1 singles, #2 singles and 5, 6 singles. so it won't be all that close in the end.
 
i have seen with my own eyes a fedace prediction that is fairly within reason, i thought this day would never come

don't give up on your boy clayton so fast now, he may just surprise you with a clutch win tomorrow :)
 
The best chances for dual match upsets tend to come when a lower-ranked team has different strong positions than the higher ranked team. Texas Tech seems strongest at the same positions as Stanford (top of the singles and doubles) and weakest at the same positions as Stanford (e.g. #6 singles). So, it strikes me as a match where Texas Tech is close, but not quite good enough, at a lot of positions.
 
Just witnessed a very interesting moment at the start of the #1 dubs match, will be interested to see if anyone saw more than I did and can clarify.

I tuned in during the first game, Thacher serving at Ad out, and all 4 players standing on the same side of the court while the coaches were having a discussion with the chair umpire and an additional roaming referee. I assume by standing on the same side of the court as Thacher, who was bouncing the ball around ready to keep serving, the TT players were maintaining they had gotten the break already. After about 3 minutes, the umpires ordered the TT players back to their side and declared "second serve." Thacher, who had to be a bit out of rhythm after this delay, missed his second serve for the opening break.

I can't for the world of me think of a situation where Thacher would not have been given a first serve after such a delay, especially since it seems Stanford must have won whatever argument was going on.

Anyway, a puzzler....
 
also TT's #3 dubs looks horrid...some good play from Stanford, and maybe just a bad day for these guys, but I hope for TT's sake they're better at singles than doubles...
 
mikej said:
Just witnessed a very interesting moment at the start of the #1 dubs match, will be interested to see if anyone saw more than I did and can clarify.

I tuned in during the first game, Thacher serving at Ad out, and all 4 players standing on the same side of the court while the coaches were having a discussion with the chair umpire and an additional roaming referee. I assume by standing on the same side of the court as Thacher, who was bouncing the ball around ready to keep serving, the TT players were maintaining they had gotten the break already. After about 3 minutes, the umpires ordered the TT players back to their side and declared "second serve." Thacher, who had to be a bit out of rhythm after this delay, missed his second serve for the opening break.

I can't for the world of me think of a situation where Thacher would not have been given a first serve after such a delay, especially since it seems Stanford must have won whatever argument was going on.

Anyway, a puzzler....
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These players from TT are bunch of Thugs, nothing more. They make JP Mcenroe look like the sportsman of the year. Unless they learn better discipline and respect for their opponents, they will never reach top 20 in NCAA.
 
Fedace said:
Unless they learn better discipline and respect for their opponents, they will never reach top 20 in NCAA.
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like i've pointed out, they weren't the most admirable team i've seen in terms of attitude and racquet abuse...however, i'm pretty sure they've already reached top 20, unless i misread their current ranking :)
 
DownTheLine said:
Who won between TT and Stanford?
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Stanford is back in action on Feb. 8 against Utah at 1:30 p.m.

No. 8 Stanford 5, No. 15 Texas Tech 2

DOUBLES
1) No. 16 Klahn/Thacher (STAN) d. Carvalho/Garcia (TTECH) 8-6
2) Escobar/Manzini (TTECH) d. Clayton/Ted Kelly (STAN) 8-3
3) Kandath/Lin (STAN) d. Gonzalez/Pfister (TTECH) 8-2
Order of Finish: 3, 2, 1

SINGLES
1) No. 15 Bradley Klahn (STAN) d. No. 20 Gonzalo Escobar (TTECH) 7-6, 7-5
2) Raony Carvalho (TTECH) d. No. 41 Ryan Thacher (STAN) 6-4, 2-6, 6-2
3) No. 61 Alex Clayton (STAN) d. No. 59 Rafael Garcia (TTECH) 6-3, 6-2
4) Denis Lin (STAN) d. Vitor Manzini (TTECH) 6-4, 4-6, 7-6 (4)
5) Greg Hirshman (STAN) d. Gabriel Wanderley (TTECH) 6-4, 6-2
6) Raphael Pfister (TTECH) d. Matt Kandath (STAN) 6-2, 6-7, 6-2
Order of Finish: 3, 2, 1, 5, 6, 4
 
Fedace said:
These players from TT are bunch of Thugs, nothing more. They make JP Mcenroe look like the sportsman of the year. Unless they learn better discipline and respect for their opponents, they will never reach top 20 in NCAA.
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Stanford got lucky and the match could have gone either way.
 
Good test against an Indoor Qualifier. Stanford should be undefeated going to Washington, although so will a lot of other teams.
 
andfor said:
Stanford got lucky and the match could have gone either way.
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eh, having watched a lot of that match, I think Stanford beats TT 7 or 8 times out of 10...Lin's match was the only one that reeeaallly looked like it could have gone either way that Stanford won...Klahn and Klahn-Thacher seemed like they were able to turn it up when needed against their opponents despite the tight scores

but i agree that Stanford did seem to show something lacking at some spots in their lineup that will be exploited by the upper echelon teams...tbd i guess
 
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10isplayer said:
has anyone found live scoring for the texas vs texas a&m match tonight?
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They played at 2:00 CST. Indoors in Houston, no live stats. Also no live stats for Ohio State - Ole Miss. Surprising for a first-rate program like Ohio State.

I heard that Texas A&M got up a break on all three courts in doubles, Texas broke back on all three courts, came down to #2, and Texas won 9-7 at #2 to take the doubles point.

Match should be over by now.

CORRECTION: Icy roads delayed start until 6 p.m. Match still going on.
 
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