Djoker won't make Roland Garros final

[Mustard]

Who's going to beat him, then?

If someone had said this time 2 years ago that Nadal wouldn't win his fifth straight French Open, but that he would lose to Soderling in the Round of 16, people would have treated it as a total joke. "LOL, Nadal just beat Soderling 6-1, 6-0 in Rome", they would have said.

 

[Mortifier]

The last two claycourt Masters finals I've voted for Rafa to win against Djokovic (at Facebook). My friend has done the same, except he put Djokovic to win. Just called him and we did the same for RG.

Yes, it's over boys. No worries, this one is in the bag.

 

[TheTruth]

No it won't.

He's already won 5 FO titles so a 6th would hardly be extraordinary.

Nice try, though

Sure wouldn't, since he had a 0-9 record before, and they're only one year apart. Bad analogy.

 

[Spider]

Ain't going to happen. Come back at the end of the RG and quote me on this, Djokovic is winning RG this year.

Expecting anything else is just wishful thinking.

 

[NamRanger]

Sure wouldn't, since he had a 0-9 record before, and they're only one year apart. Bad analogy.

It's not a bad analogy; that 0-9 record before was pre-prime Djokovic.

 

[rascaypica]

I hope not,for Nadal's sake.If Rafa wins FO this year without beating peak Novak in the final his title will have a huge * next to it.

do you think the same with federer RG?

 

[aphex]

I hope not,for Nadal's sake.If Rafa wins FO this year without beating peak Novak in the final his title will have a huge * next to it.

^Agreed. Nadal NEEDS to beat Djokovic in the FO final in order to be the true King Of Clay.

Agree. If he doesn't beat Djokovic, the space next to "2011 winner" should be left empty in the history books.

 

[namelessone]

It's not a bad analogy; that 0-9 record before was pre-prime Djokovic.

Is this prime Djokovic or peak Djokovic ?

So in these four years in the top 5 of the game(2007-2010), Djoker was just getting warmed up. Interesting.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

all those losses by Djokovic happened out of personal best. he was not 100%. you could see that by the energy of his Chest beating!!!!

 

[TheTruth]

Is this prime Djokovic or peak Djokovic ?

So in these four years in the top 5 of the game(2007-2010), Djoker was just getting warmed up. Interesting.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Anyway, if someone beats you 9x straight on the clay, and you win 2, you're still 7 wins behind.

I guess although they've been playing around the same amount of time and are close to the same age, these past five months are now the standard. It's a shame we don't know how long this "prime" will last.

I mean, people are going crazy. He beat Nadal twice on Nadal's surface. Hmm. How many times has Nadal beat him on his surface? Seems like there's some other surface wins for Nadal as well if my math is correct.

Pre-Prime Djokovic, the h2h was 16-7, 9 on clay, means 7 wins came from different surfaces. What's the big deal?

It evens out.

 

[KillSwitch Engage]

It's not a bad analogy; that 0-9 record before was pre-prime Djokovic.

'Pre prime Djokovic'????


Djokovic's prime started in 2007. He's currently at his peak. Peak and prime are different to each other.

 

[Sentinel]

Murray showed us he could be a real treat there.

A treat for the ladies, surely, but a threat to Nadal.

Joker is currently in his pre-peak prime. Or pre-prime peak. I keep getting confused.

 

[namelessone]

A treat for the ladies, surely, but a threat to Nadal.

Joker is currently in his pre-peak prime. Or pre-prime peak. I keep getting confused.

Probably the peak during his prime.

 

[MixieP]

'Pre prime Djokovic'????


Djokovic's prime started in 2007. He's currently at his peak. Peak and prime are different to each other.

I think Djokovic is approaching his peak. He still needs to work on his concentration. When he goes up four love, for example, as against Rafa recently, he should learn to step it up another level and go for a bagel ruthlessly. He has to sharpen his killer instinct. I know he's not used to this situation, and may even feel a bit sorry for Rafa - but he must be harder mentally.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Probably the peak during his prime.

preaking in his pime? preking piame??? so many notions... and now that Jackosn pile invented the god slam.... :-?

 

[BULLZ1LLA]

double-post, delete

 

[BULLZ1LLA]

I hope not,for Nadal's sake.If Rafa wins FO this year without beating peak Novak in the final his title will have a huge * next to it.

(The asterisk isn't even huge next to Federer's 2009 French Open win. And Rafa's 2010 US Open never gets an asterisk despite not beating Federer there. On top of that, all we know about Djokovic in grand slams is that he can win the Australian Open. It's presumed that he'd be too inconsistent to win 7 best-of-5 matches, since he's only done it twice in his whole career. He's a best-of-3-man, and he beat Rafa 3 straight times in 2009 in best-of-3 setters. Also, Rafa is the favorite to win Roland Garros, so why would you say he needs to beat Djokovic to prove he deserves it? It's presumed Rafa would beat anyone at Roland Garros, whether he plays them or not)

 

[zagor]

Agree. If he doesn't beat Djokovic, the space next to "2011 winner" should be left empty in the history books.

You're being too harsh,not empty but something like this:

2011 FO winner Rafael Nadal *



* Extremely lucky to have avoided peak Novak Djokovic.

 

[zagor]

Is this prime Djokovic or peak Djokovic ?

So in these four years in the top 5 of the game(2007-2010), Djoker was just getting warmed up. Interesting.

It is the beginning of peaking prime post baby glutten free years for Novak.

 

[jackson vile]

You're being too harsh,not empty but something like this:

2011 FO winner Rafael Nadal *



* Extremely lucky to have avoided peak Novak Djokovic.

LOL Imagine if Roger had to face peak Nadal and peak Novak at the same time?

 

[rommil]

All the stars have aligned for him lately, but he will bomb out before the final at Roland Garros yet again.

Rafa realigned the stars with his moonballs.......

 

[zagor]

LOL Imagine if Roger had to face peak Nadal and peak Novak at the same time?

Yes,peak Roger facing peak Nadal and Novak will have to be left to our imagination as they are from different generation,however there is no need to do the same for peak Nadal Vs peak Novak as it's happening right before our eyes.

 

[Serve_Ace]

Prime prime prime, peak peak peak. Prime peak.

 

[namelessone]

Yes,peak Roger facing peak Nadal and Novak will have to be left to our imagination as they are from different generation,however there is no need to do the same for peak Nadal Vs peak Novak as it's happening right before our eyes.

LMAO.

Don't forget peak Murray.

Or is it prime?

 

[Raoul_Duke]

Novak's pike is in his prime. All the time.

 

[Double_Fault]

Murray's whole career is a slump.

 

[coloskier]

It is obvious that Djoker is now more fit, but he will have to win a lot of straight set matches if he wants to keep it up for FO. FO is more of a marathon than a track meet. Speed helps, but endurance is king at FO. 2 of 3 vs 3 of 5 is a huge difference, even with a day off in-between. And if there is any rain delay, Djoker is screwed. He just doesn't recover as fast as other players.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

It is obvious that Djoker is now more fit, but he will have to win a lot of straight set matches if he wants to keep it up for FO. FO is more of a marathon than a track meet. Speed helps, but endurance is king at FO. 2 of 3 vs 3 of 5 is a huge difference, even with a day off in-between. And if there is any rain delay, Djoker is screwed. He just doesn't recover as fast as other players.

We are talking about Novak Djokovic - the winner of all his matches this year, Australian Open, Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami, Belgrade, Madrid, Rome???

 

[BULLZ1LLA]

(I guess for the most part Djokovic hasn't had to recover this year, because most of his matches have been incredibly lopsided, except for the Murray match)

 

[zagor]

(I guess for the most part Djokovic hasn't had to recover this year, because most of his matches have been incredibly lopsided, except for the Murray match)

(Oh but he did recover so well from that Murray match wouldn't you agree?)

 

[Double_Fault]

Federer v Djokovic always has weird scorelines.

 

[BULLZ1LLA]

(Oh but he did recover so well from that Murray match wouldn't you agree?)

(Djokovic struggled to hold serve in a lot of games at Rome vs Rafa that could have gone either way, so I don't think he'd want to rely on that performance to beat Rafa at Roland Garros. Murray is definitely the key in today's draw, because if Djokovic or Rafa meet him in a SF that would be a nasty lead-up to the Final, or even in the QF if you get a tough SF too)