Djokodal will be BETTER at the slams in 2023 than in 2022

jl809

Hall of Fame
Nadal came into the AO having taken 6 months off, and he got covid 3 weeks before the tournament. At the French Open, Nadal was dealing with an injured, numb foot and Djokovic by his own admission was still dealing with the fallout of earlier in the year.
This then extended to Wimbledon where Djokovic played another stressed-out slam, which he described as very mentally difficult, and Nadal (with his brand new foot) picked up a freak ab injury. This ab injury also freakishly recurred for a (match-unfit) Nadal at the US Open, who played very poorly.

With Nadal having solved his foot issue and having played some tennis over the Autumn, and with Djokovic having the clarity of knowing he can play the AO and that he can come through pressure at Wimbledon…

… it is surely conceivable that both will play BETTER at all 4 slams next year than they did in 2022 (Djokovic obviously with the AO and USO).

Will they sweep all 4 in 2023?
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Hope Nadal can at least defend RG next year.

Djokovic’s chances look greater but Nadal has proven he can never be ruled out so I will remain confident.

And I hope Djokovic can at least defend Wimbledon next year and get that Wimbledon record locked in.
 
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Deleted member 791948

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Djokovic is way too old to win the AO, that's for sure.
Whereas Nadal can win the AO because he's not as reliant on athleticism anymore.
And Medvedev and Alcaraz can win the AO because they have the physicality that Djokovic use to have.
Djokovic is a Wimbledon specialist at this point in his career.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic is way too old to win the AO, that's for sure.
Whereas Nadal can win the AO because he's not as reliant on athleticism anymore.
And Medvedev and Alcaraz can win the AO because they have the physicality that Djokovic use to have.
Djokovic is a Wimbledon specialist at this point in his career.

Calm down Son! Stop making dumb predictions. If anything Djokovic is far healthier and faster. I will be happy if Nadal wins 2 slams next year.
 
Djoker can win the calendar slam next year with smart scheduling. Very little non slam event participation and peak accordingly. Honestly Djokers biggest threat is Zverev who won’t be 100 percent any time soon if at all again
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
If only one?

Wimbledon, no question.

I would still choose the French Open... The Triple Career Slam would definitely separate him from Nadal (And Emerson and Laver, who all have the Double Career Slam). No one has ever done that in men's tennis, and I doubt anyone will in the near future.

Winning the AO (specially in 2023) would be historical and legendary, because of the drama this year. Honestly, it would be one of the biggest story in the history of sports if he wins AO23 after getting illegally deported and practically jailed in 2022. For this reason I would choose AO over Wimbledon. If one day someone makes a movie about Djokovic in Australia in 2022, it will look a lot better if at the end it shows him lifting the trophy 1 year later :D )

Every big titles except USO would be quite an achievement for him in 2023 and after...
In order: I would like
French Open : Triple Career Slam (only Graf, Williams and Court have achieved this, but NOBODY in men's tennis)
AO : Decima (nobody except Nadal has won 10 times the same 10 times... Navratilova has 9 Wimbledons but I don't think any woman has 10 trophies in 1 Slam)
Wim : would arguably make him the Wimbledon Goat with 8 titles but 3-0 against Federer in finals
WTF : would make him the undisputable WTF Goat with 7 titles (even though he already is, IMO)
USO : ??? unless he won the first 3 Slams and can complete the CYGS, or unless he wins 2 more USO and ties Federer and Sampras, the USO has liittle prestige for him at this stage of his career. It's just a bonus but if there is one he never wins again, I hope it's the USO...
 

jl809

Hall of Fame
It's not so much about Djokodal as it is about their opposition. How many 0-2 comebacks by the elderly are we going to see next year?
Ah but Nadal won’t need to come back from 0-2 if he comes to the AO in better form and shape than he did this year
 
Ah but Nadal won’t need to come back from 0-2 if he comes to the AO in better form and shape than he did this year
As I said, it's more about their opposition. Nadal's ceiling on HC doesn't seem to be that high anymore as his defensive ability has waned significantly.

And then you probably need to factor in his body breaking a little more and more each year. At some point there's no separating that from Nadal's level and form. It surprises me how with knowing about Rafa's frequent injury problems, some people seem to completely omit that from their considerations regarding his future potential.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
I totally agree

I also think they will have worse results though. Don’t see them winning 3/4 Slams.
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
They're also going to be another year older...

The younger guys are going to be more experienced and confident.

It won't continue being the same script year after year.

Djok's last AO where he didn't have a struggle was 2019... 2020 Thiem almost beat him, 2021 he nearly lost to Fritz and Zed should've pushed it to 5...

Nadal struggled big time at some stages throughout RG this year. Last year was one of his worst since 2015.

Gradually it's getting harder and harder for them as to be expected.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
I would still choose the French Open... The Triple Career Slam would definitely separate him from Nadal (And Emerson and Laver, who all have the Double Career Slam). No one has ever done that in men's tennis, and I doubt anyone will in the near future.

Winning the AO (specially in 2023) would be historical and legendary, because of the drama this year. Honestly, it would be one of the biggest story in the history of sports if he wins AO23 after getting illegally deported and practically jailed in 2022. For this reason I would choose AO over Wimbledon. If one day someone makes a movie about Djokovic in Australia in 2022, it will look a lot better if at the end it shows him lifting the trophy 1 year later :D )

Every big titles except USO would be quite an achievement for him in 2023 and after...
In order: I would like
French Open : Triple Career Slam (only Graf, Williams and Court have achieved this, but NOBODY in men's tennis)
AO : Decima (nobody except Nadal has won 10 times the same 10 times... Navratilova has 9 Wimbledons but I don't think any woman has 10 trophies in 1 Slam)
Wim : would arguably make him the Wimbledon Goat with 8 titles but 3-0 against Federer in finals
WTF : would make him the undisputable WTF Goat with 7 titles (even though he already is, IMO)
USO : ??? unless he won the first 3 Slams and can complete the CYGS, or unless he wins 2 more USO and ties Federer and Sampras, the USO has liittle prestige for him at this stage of his career. It's just a bonus but if there is one he never wins again, I hope it's the USO...

We all have our reasons. ;)
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Ah but Nadal won’t need to come back from 0-2 if he comes to the AO in better form and shape than he did this year

But he may need to face the AO GOAT, and a guy he has never beaten there before, unlike this year. So swings and rounadabouts.
 

Purestriker

Legend
Nadal came into the AO having taken 6 months off, and he got covid 3 weeks before the tournament. At the French Open, Nadal was dealing with an injured, numb foot and Djokovic by his own admission was still dealing with the fallout of earlier in the year.
This then extended to Wimbledon where Djokovic played another stressed-out slam, which he described as very mentally difficult, and Nadal (with his brand new foot) picked up a freak ab injury. This ab injury also freakishly recurred for a (match-unfit) Nadal at the US Open, who played very poorly.

With Nadal having solved his foot issue and having played some tennis over the Autumn, and with Djokovic having the clarity of knowing he can play the AO and that he can come through pressure at Wimbledon…

… it is surely conceivable that both will play BETTER at all 4 slams next year than they did in 2022 (Djokovic obviously with the AO and USO).

Will they sweep all 4 in 2023?
Big if true.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Not so sure about that. They are showing some signs of ageing and I suspect the will struggle mightily to win slams in 2023. I think Nadal will still win FO and Djokovic is likely to win AO and Wimb.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Do you have any daughters? Asking for a friend.

I am anti-natalist. I don't think it's okay to bring new sentient being in this world and expose them to suffering. They can't give us consent and forcing existence upon them is not right imo.
 
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NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
Djokodal shouldn't be dominating now, even i am fed up seeing New Generation not winning atleast 2-3 slams a year.
 
Djokovc hasn’t won a hc slam in two years, the younger players have come up in leaps and bounds in that time. One of them is the reigning USO champ and world no.1.
Nadal is done. He even said when Federer left, part of him did, too. :giggle:
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Not so sure about that. They are showing some signs of ageing and I suspect the will struggle mightily to win slams in 2023. I think Nadal will still win FO and Djokovic is likely to win AO and Wimb.

At the end of the day, winning is all that matters. :)
 

jondice

Semi-Pro
I want Rafa to take all four, of course. But he's nearing 37. And after 2022? Whatever more he might win, slam or otherwise, is just gravy as far as I see it. I do think he can win RG and maybe one more if the stars align. But I'm certainly not counting on it.

Novak will be a beast at all four, I fear.
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Djokovc hasn’t won a hc slam in two years, the younger players have come up in leaps and bounds in that time. One of them is the reigning USO champ and world no.1.
Nadal is done. He even said when Federer left, part of him did, too. :giggle:

That's one way to look at it. On the other hand, since Chung in AO 2018, he has only lost one HC Slam match. He won the AO in 2019, 2020, 2021, DNP in 2022. He won the USO in 2018, withdrew in 2019 and was defaulted in 2020 and banned in 2022. In other words he has only lost 1 HC match in 5 years in Slams... when he was playing for the CYGS.
 

jm1980

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal came into the AO having taken 6 months off, and he got covid 3 weeks before the tournament. At the French Open, Nadal was dealing with an injured, numb foot and Djokovic by his own admission was still dealing with the fallout of earlier in the year.
This then extended to Wimbledon where Djokovic played another stressed-out slam, which he described as very mentally difficult, and Nadal (with his brand new foot) picked up a freak ab injury. This ab injury also freakishly recurred for a (match-unfit) Nadal at the US Open, who played very poorly.

With Nadal having solved his foot issue and having played some tennis over the Autumn, and with Djokovic having the clarity of knowing he can play the AO and that he can come through pressure at Wimbledon…

… it is surely conceivable that both will play BETTER at all 4 slams next year than they did in 2022 (Djokovic obviously with the AO and USO).

Will they sweep all 4 in 2023?
Too many Fed fans putting all their chips on Alcaraz, Sinner, and co.

Djokodal united, I wouldn't mind seeing an even split next year
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
That's one way to look at it. On the other hand, since Chung in AO 2018, he has only lost one HC Slam match. He won the AO in 2019, 2020, 2021, DNP in 2022. He won the USO in 2018, withdrew in 2019 and was defaulted in 2020 and banned in 2022. In other words he has only lost 1 HC match in 5 years in Slams... when he was playing for the CYGS.

Djokovic lost in USO 19. He didn't withdraw. He retired in 3rd set - was getting beaten by Wawa (down 2 sets to love)
Default in USO 20 is also a loss.

So that's 4 losses in 8 HC slams he's played from 2018 onwards..
 
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tsp_207

Semi-Pro
Djokovic is way too old to win the AO, that's for sure.
Whereas Nadal can win the AO because he's not as reliant on athleticism anymore.
And Medvedev and Alcaraz can win the AO because they have the physicality that Djokovic use to have.
Djokovic is a Wimbledon specialist at this point in his career.
If Nadal won AO last year after having a heat stroke, Djokovic will win if he's fully fit. Funny how Nadal fans are so dependent on other players to have their guy be the GOAT. Whereas for Djokovic, everything is on his racket.
 

CHillTennis

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is way too old to win the AO, that's for sure.
Whereas Nadal can win the AO because he's not as reliant on athleticism anymore.
And Medvedev and Alcaraz can win the AO because they have the physicality that Djokovic use to have.
Djokovic is a Wimbledon specialist at this point in his career.

How is he way too old when Nadal was able to win it this year?
 
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