Djokovic: “Whether or not Rafael Nadal plays in Paris doesn’t change anything because everything is in my hands,”

Seems Djokovic has all but conceded the slam race. Note he says after he gets no.1 record he will focus on slams. Surely focussing on slams would mean ranking comes anyway?
He means after he gets no 1 record he will play less smaller events.

That's all it means. He may not have expressed himself peRFectly.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Seems Djokovic has all but conceded the slam race. Note he says after he gets no.1 record he will focus on slams. Surely focussing on slams would mean ranking comes anyway?
If that was the case then Nadal wouldn't be tied for the most Slams in history yet minus 82 weeks at #1 in comparison to Djokovic.
 

USO

Professional
If that was the case then Nadal wouldn't be tied for the most Slams in history yet minus 82 weeks at #1 in comparison to Djokovic.
Everyone knows it’s because he had a lot of injuries in his career which affected his ranking many times... It has nothing to do with Nadal focussing on slams or other tournaments because he missed both many times...
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Everyone knows it’s because he had a lot of injuries in his career which affected his ranking many times... It has nothing to do with Nadal focussing on slams or other tournaments because he missed both many times...
And those injuries are a large part because of his play style which brought him 20 Slams. His whole career is focused mainly on clay, which he rarely misses, while he has missed 17 big fall tournaments and this doesn't even include the other big hardcourt tournaments he missed throughout the year. Can't have it both ways.
 
Everyone knows it’s because he had a lot of injuries in his career which affected his ranking many times... It has nothing to do with Nadal focussing on slams or other tournaments because he missed both many times...
When was the last time Nadal hold the #1 ranking for more than 40 weeks? Was he injured for the last 10 years? Come on. Djokovic was just more consistent over all tournaments.
Novak can have the RANKINGS record as long as NAdal the Slam record. Fair trade.
 
Do you think Nadal will push his body to the limit at 34 just to have that record like what Murray did? that least of his problem. His been Number 1 albeit not longer than Novak. His eyes are fixed on the BIG ONE which matters the most, Slam record
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Today I learned:
1) You can't have professional goals.
2) You can't state your professional goals out loud.
3) You can't change your professional goals four years later.

What else today? TTW is full of wisdom.
And you can't vulture....

unless you're Fedal.
 

kevin_95

Semi-Pro
I love how triggered people get when someone is actually honest about their intentions. Why does everyone have to be so god damn "correct" especially when it is not what they mean. Federer and Nadal feel exactly the same way, but they hide their intentions through PR bull crap. I prefer Djokovic's way much more.
 

Beckerserve

Hall of Fame
Do you think Nadal will push his body to the limit at 34 just to have that record like what Murray did? that least of his problem. His been Number 1 albeit not longer than Novak. His eyes are fixed on the BIG ONE which matters the most, Slam record
Dude get the popcorn out and enjoy Djokovic ans his fans get more frustrated by the day. The realisation of 20-17 is biting hard now
 

Beckerserve

Hall of Fame
I guess it depends on how you look at it. Personally, I would choose the position Djokovic is in now overall than where Nadal is, even if he has tied the Slam record. Apples, Oranges.
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I guess it depends on how you look at it. Personally, I would choose the position Djokovic is in now overall than where Nadal is, even if he has tied the Slam record. Apples, Oranges.
Hmmm. Not sure Djokovic agrees.
You would prefer Courier career over Beckers? Or connors over borg?
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
If all goes according to the trajectory we are on, and no major shock happens this fall, Djokovic wil have passed the 300 week mark at #1 by the time AO rolls around. That will be two years more at #1 than Nadal which is a huge difference. Couple that with all he has achieved, 17 Slams, Masters record (winning them all at least twice), NCYGS, plus the fact that he is a better player on hard and grass, is younger and has more time to pad his count, absolutely. The difference between Nadal and Djokovic is not as big as the difference between Borg and Connors so moot point.
 

JadeC

Hall of Fame
If all goes according to the trajectory we are on, and no major shock happens this fall, Djokovic wil have passed the 300 week mark at #1 by the time AO rolls around. That will be two years more at #1 than Nadal which is a huge difference. Couple that with all he has achieved, 17 Slams, Masters record (winning them all at least twice), NCYGS, plus the fact that he is a better player on hard and grass, is younger and has more time to pad his count, absolutely. The difference between Nadal and Djokovic is not as big as the difference Borg and Connors so moot point.
People forget that Federer went 5 years without a slam before adding 3 more. Djokovic has time to add, even if the next gen start winning slams.
 
If all goes according to the trajectory we are on, and no major shock happens this fall, Djokovic wil have passed the 300 week mark at #1 by the time AO rolls around. That will be two years more at #1 than Nadal which is a huge difference. Couple that with all he has achieved, 17 Slams, Masters record (winning them all at least twice), NCYGS, plus the fact that he is a better player on hard and grass, is younger and has more time to pad his count, absolutely. The difference between Nadal and Djokovic is not as big as the difference between Borg and Connors so moot point.
Novak may have STAND ALONE records, but Rafa and Fed too. That is why the ULTIMATE METRIC, for the NTH TIME, is Slam wins. Throw every metric available. It is always about Slams. It always is and will always will be.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
People forget that Federer went 5 years without a slam before adding 3 more. Djokovic has time to add, even if the next gen start winning slams.
Exactly. Federer showed that you can wait out the storm and strike when the time arrives even if you get shut out for years. Nadal winning RG has a lot of people not seeing the big picture here.
 

USO

Professional
Djokovic is nowhere near Fedal at this point in terms of GOAT debates with 3 slams behind (full Murray career). The recent “Djokovic Open” final was huge for Djokovic but instead of 20-19-18 it became 20-20-17. I don’t know what will happen in the future as all 3 can still win more but right now it’s not close.

With 20 slams each Federer could definitely use things like weeks at no.1 or WTF against Nadal while Nadal coud use things like Olympics, h2h and more M1000 against Federer. Fedal both can have a case. But right now Djokovic is clearly far behind in slams to start using other stats, he will need to win a few more slams or otherwise it’s all pointless.
 

NoleFam

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Novak may have STAND ALONE records, but Rafa and Fed too. That is why the ULTIMATE METRIC, for the NTH TIME, is Slam wins. Throw every metric available. It is always about Slams. It always is and will always will be.
Slams are not all that matters! I cannot stress this enough. Dominance matters too as well as versatility, and both of those things Djokovic has more than Nadal. If Nadal ends his career with one more Slam, what difference will it make when he spent 2+ years less at #1? You can dominant one Slam forever but that doesn't automatically vault you over everyone else just because you dominated one Slam. There are 3 others at the end of the day and other big tournaments, the WTF in particular.
 
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JadeC

Hall of Fame
Nadal can add more Slams too.
Of course, and he will. But their careers are not over yet, so we can't know who will end up with the most slams. And even if Nadal ends up with 1 or 2 more than Djokovic, Djokovic's accomplishments will still put him in the GOAT debate. There isn't a clear GOAT and probably won't be. FYI, I don't really care for the title myself, I just like seeing my guy win.
 

NoleFam

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic is nowhere near Fedal at this point in terms of GOAT debates with 3 slams behind (full Murray career). The recent “Djokovic Open” final was huge for Djokovic but instead of 20-19-18 it became 20-20-17. I don’t know what will happen in the future but right now it’s not close.

With 20 slams each Federer could definitely use things like weeks at no.1 or WTF against Nadal while Nadal coud use things like Olympics, h2h and more M1000 against Federer. Fedal both can have a case. But right now Djokovic is clearly far behind in slams to start using other stats, he will need to win a few more slams or otherwise it’s all pointless.
You are completely short sighted. You say this like Federer and Djokovic are at the same point in their careers. Federer has 6 years on him and is nearing the end. Djokovic looks to have a lot of miles left. Federer will be blessed to add another Slam while it will be a huge shock if Djokovic doesn't add more.
 

GabeT

Legend
Novak may have STAND ALONE records, but Rafa and Fed too. That is why the ULTIMATE METRIC, for the NTH TIME, is Slam wins. Throw every metric available. It is always about Slams. It always is and will always will be.
yeah, not true. Slam count is a recent invention in tennis. Did not really exist before Sampras
 

GabeT

Legend
Djokovic is nowhere near Fedal at this point in terms of GOAT debates with 3 slams behind (full Murray career). The recent “Djokovic Open” final was huge for Djokovic but instead of 20-19-18 it became 20-20-17. I don’t know what will happen in the future as all 3 can still win more but right now it’s not close.

With 20 slams each Federer could definitely use things like weeks at no.1 or WTF against Nadal while Nadal coud use things like Olympics, h2h and more M1000 against Federer. Fedal both can have a case. But right now Djokovic is clearly far behind in slams to start using other stats, he will need to win a few more slams or otherwise it’s all pointless.
We need to stop saying “Murray’s career” when talking of the Big 3. No dig on Murray but his slam career is almost nothing for a player like Novak. Three times in his life Novak won a Murray’s career equivalent of slams in just a few months (ie 3 slams in a row), and the last time that happened was last year. If Novak is on 3 is simply not that much.
 
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USO

Professional
yeah, not true. Slam count is a recent invention in tennis. Did not really exist before Sampras
Even if that’s true (which it isn’t since slams have always been the most important) it would still mean it is at least the metric when comparing Fedal and Djokovic. All of them played this era knowing that slams is the #1 thing.

Of course if I would compare Djokovic with other players from the past like Borg I would maybe look at different things because many were skipping the AO or others were playing doubles too, but when it comes to comparing the Big 3 the slams is the number one thing they have been playing for and 20-20-17 is a clear stat.
 

GabeT

Legend
Even if that’s true (which it isn’t since slams have always been the most important) it would still mean it is at least the metric when comparing Fedal and Djokovic. All of them played this era knowing that slams is the #1 thing.

Of course if I would compare Djokovic with other players from the past like Borg I would maybe look at different things because many were skipping the AO or others were playing doubles too, but when it comes to comparing the Big 3 the slams is the number one thing they have been playing for and 20-20-17 is a clear stat.
Jmac himself said he would played differently if he had known how the relative importance of slams has changed.

and if you want to focus on just slams when comparing the Big 3 that’s fine. But I don’t agree. Never have. The Big 3 have gone after so much more than just 8 weeks of play in every season
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
Novak…do something useful then with your hands that is better than hitting a linesperson and hitting 50 unforced errors in 3 sets.
 

Federev

Hall of Fame
“Whether or not Rafael Nadal plays in Paris doesn’t change anything because everything is in my hands,” Djokovic told Sportski Zurnal.

“I want to make history as the world number one who has spent the most weeks at the top of the ATP Tour, and I will do everything I can to make it happen,”

“My immediate task is to collect as many points as possible to try to put as much distance between me and the hunting pack before next season.”

Having made no secret of his ambitions, Djokovic showed also admits he is feeling confident of achieving them.

“Of course I’m aware of the amount of weeks, and I don’t know exactly the date, but I know it’s going to be in probably the first or beginning of the second quarter of next year if I eventually maintain my number one ranking,” he said.

“I’m getting closer. I’m in a very good position, I feel like I have been also playing really well and been healthy, which is great.

“Yes, those are the two biggest professional goals that I have at the moment.

“So the historic number one ranking goal is something that is on the horizon, and I’m going to give my all and very best that I can possibly give in the next period to achieve that.

“But also, after that slams will be the big one, of course.”

The earliest Djokovic can surpass Roger Federer for total weeks at world number one is March 8, assuming he holds onto his ranking until then.
This is just weird to me.

Just my thing maybe, but I like how Rafa and Fed - while saying they obviously like the records - don't get so explicit and intense about it so much.

I am sure they would like to have/keep the records - they say it. But they say it w more perspective to my hearing. It seems like they are more careful to either not say it so much or explain there are much, much more important things in life. This is the truth: faith, family, - and as Rafa says esp - the health of people in this season of the pandemic.

It just all strikes me as petty to go on and on about it so much like I keep hearing, seeing from Novak. It sounds empty and so self-focused.

In the end - who gives a crap about a tiny yellow ball w sticks? How were you as a husband, as a dad, as a faithful person of character?

"From the heart, the mouth speaks". I hope Novaks talks w more perspective. I would like to like him as a fan, but - for me - it is hard.
 
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JadeC

Hall of Fame
This is just weird to me.

Just my thing maybe, but I like how Rafa and Fed - while saying they obviously like the records - don't get so explicit and intense about it so much.

I am sure they would like to have/keep the records - they say it. But they say it w more perspective to my hearing. It seems like they are more careful to either not say it so much or explain there are much, much more important things in life. This is the truth: faith, family, - and as Rafa says esp - the health of people in this season of the pandemic.

It just all strikes me as petty to go on and on about it so much like I keep hearing, seeing from Novak. It sounds empty and so self-focused.

In the end - who gives a crap about a tiny yellow ball w sticks? How were you as a husband, as a dad, as a faithful person of character?

"From the heart, the mouth speaks". I hope Novaks talks w more perspective. I would like to like him as a fan, but - for me - it is hard.
Sorry, I don't get what you're saying here. Surely, a person can have more than one goal in life. Just because he is talking about his goals in tennis does not mean that he doesn't have personal goals. Just because he doesn't talk about it doesn't mean that he isn't trying to be a good husband and father. He doesn't need to share that with the world. Having issues with what he is saying here sounds a bit nit-picky to me. If what he is saying here makes it hard for you to like him, then I don't think you will ever like him. And that's fine, you don't have to like every player.
 

Federev

Hall of Fame
Sorry, I don't get what you're saying here. Surely, a person can have more than one goal in life. Just because he is talking about his goals in tennis does not mean that he doesn't have personal goals. Just because he doesn't talk about it doesn't mean that he isn't trying to be a good husband and father. He doesn't need to share that with the world. Having issues with what he is saying here sounds a bit nit-picky to me. If what he is saying here makes it hard for you to like him, then I don't think you will ever like him. And that's fine, you don't have to like every player.
I think I get you and for sure agree w you on different goals and pursuing things that are not mutually exclusive.

I have no doubt Novak tries to be a great dad, deeply valued family, and from all we can see his bad marriage troubles are behind him. I hope the best for him in all that.

I didn’t mean to say he was a bad family man - though I can see how that might have come across.

I don’t know his heart- but from what I see and hear from him - and that’s really what I’m referring to - I get a sense that maybe he’s too fixated on these records for my taste.

I repeat - for my taste.

I can only point to other like-accomplished players to consider the relative attitudes that are possible.

For my taste - the way Rafa and Roger talk about records appeals to me more and intimates the possibility of a more healthy attitude about it all.

Novak will be around for many more years winning everything probably. With that in mind I want to like him better cause he’ll likely be the headline for a while.

So that’s why I wrote it.
 

vex

Hall of Fame
While I love what Rafa’s done, it’s a bit ridiculous to see a handful of Rafa fans suddenly think every tournament is gonna be played on Phillip Chat and Djokovic is suddenly just garbage.
 

JadeC

Hall of Fame
I think I get you and for sure agree w you on different goals and pursuing things that are not mutually exclusive.

I have no doubt Novak tries to be a great dad, deeply valued family, and from all we can see his bad marriage troubles are behind him. I hope the best for him in all that.

I didn’t mean to say he was a bad family man - though I can see how that might have come across.

I don’t know his heart- but from what I see and hear from him - and that’s really what I’m referring to - I get a sense that maybe he’s too fixated on these records for my taste.

I repeat - for my taste.

I can only point to other like-accomplished players to consider the relative attitudes that are possible.

For my taste - the way Rafa and Roger talk about records appeals to me more and intimates the possibility of a more healthy attitude about it all.

Novak will be around for many more years winning everything probably. With that in mind I want to like him better cause he’ll likely be the headline for a while.

So that’s why I wrote it.
I get where you’re coming from. I think all three care about the records, just Fedal doesn’t tend to talk about it as much as Djokovic. Who knows, maybe they obsess about it more, but just hide it better. Either way, I don’t think there’s a correct way or incorrect way to talk about breaking records. I have no problem with how they go about it. To each their own.
 

daphne

Semi-Pro
Good Novak, focus on the rankings while you lose your AO crown and Nadal will be 4 or 5 slams ahead by June next year....
Focus on what you are typing. To maintain No.1 one has to win SLAMS too. If anyone has amassed slams fast in the last decade it is Djovak, then after him Nadal.
 

demrle

Professional
He should watch this Serena Wimbledon interview where she was asked if Safina should be No1 despite the fact Serena held 3 GS then.....

She said: 'Well Dinara did well, won Rome, Madrid...." then laughed so hard :-D :-D
Yeah well, you can't buy class :notworthy:
 

USO

Professional
Borg only has 109 weeks at no.1 while Connors has 268 and Lendl has 270. I have never heard anyone rank them higher despite this huge difference simply because they have 8 slams which is 3 behind Borg's 11. Djokovic's weeks at no.1 are nice but if he wants to be in the GOAT debate he will have to do better than 20-20-17.
 
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