Djokovic (1) vs Nishikori (6) - 2016 Miami Open final

Winner?

  • Djokovic in 2

    Votes: 58 58.0%

  • Djokovic in 3

    Votes: 15 15.0%

  • Nishikori in 3

    Votes: 16 16.0%

  • Nishikori in 2

    Votes: 11 11.0%
  • Total voters
    100
TenCanFan said:
Why was Kei shanking the FH so much today? I only watched the tail end of both sets and I saw at least 5 shanks. I also missed the MTO, perhaps related to this if footwork affected?
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Body started falling apart in the final. Brittle body. It can not withstand pressure.

Pelicans flew over the stadium.
That is a great sign from Mother Nature.
These things have meanings.
Pelicans are one of the most noble yet aloof species.
 
Novak should ease up on his schedule and focus on the slams. I think a calendar slam should be calling considering grandpa fed and rafaelito on the way out
 
Djokovic is 100% Superman... will Kryptonite be found before Novak surpasses Roger's records? That is the question

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Novak is just to good. Wanted more of a fight from Kei. Gosh, Kei couldn't get his first serve in. It is unreal how Novak is playing now. He is playing like a old video game that is mastered.
 
Well, once again Novak's opponent played below par and Novak raised his level for the final. A few thoughts

1) Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully (@RSH - Bodo was right, I guess. He doesn't have enough power from behind the baseline, but because he plays so much inside in in his other matches, I hadn't quite noticed).
2) Novak's aura wins him matches. Opponent's hits more DF's, they go for too much at inopportune moments and they hit too many shots just outside of the lines
3) Novak's aura is so big that the opponent lacks belief stepping onto court. Nishi didn't look like a man who believed much in his chances despite starting wonderful in the first game. He could hardly hold serve throughout the match, his body language was slumping in the start of the second and he got broken and was DF'ing and spraying errors at the worst moments.
4) I would love for Novak to let loose earlier in the matches and play with the kind of freedom and abandon he did in the second part of the second set. He can hit stunning winners, when he's going for them. He just rarely needs to.
5) Novak's in a league of his own right now. Only Wawa outside of grass and Fed on fast surfaces can truly take the game to him these days and belief in their own chances to do so. Everyone else has to hope for a bad day at the office for Novak - and even then, he still wins 90-95 % of the time :D

p.s. Why didn't Nishi try to mix up the rhythm for Novak at any point in time? No slices, hardly any approaches that weren't forced, too few body serves (which were quite effective when he hit them). Novak's loves baseline rhythm - surely, Nishi knows that by now, no?
 
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Novak seemed to be getting some love from this crowd (finally?). He even made reference about hoping 'this love affair continues'. Maybe finally the crowd is warming up to him as a Champion.
 
Chanwan said:
Well, once again Novak's opponent played below par and Novak raised his level for the final. A few thoughts

1) Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully (@RSH - Bodo was right, I guess. He doesn't have enough power from behind the baseline, but because he plays so much inside in in his other matches, I hadn't quite noticed).
2) Novak's aura wins him matches. Opponent's hits more DF's, they go for too much at inopportune moments and they hit too many shots just outside of the lines
3) Novak's aura is so big that the opponent lacks belief stepping onto court. Nishi didn't look like a man who believed much in his chances despite starting wonderful in the first game. He could hardly hold serve throughout the match, his body language was slumping in the start of the second and he got broken and was DF'ing and spraying errors at the worst moments.
4) Novak's in a league of his own right now. Only Wawa and Fed on fast surfaces can truly take the game to him these days and belief in their own chances to do so. Everyone else has to hope for a bad day at the office for Novak - and even then, he still wins 90-95 % of the time :D
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But fed's very predictable in the way he loses to novak. You can never trust wawrinka. This should be a bigger year for novak and his fans again.
 
Djokovic2011 said:
O.M.G! There's something about this guy that never fails to prove me wrong. This time last month after the debacle in Dubai and his lacklustre form in the Davis Cup I was doubtful he'd even win one of Indian Wells/Miami, let alone both! :) Absolutely incredible achievement and of course the best part of it all is that just as soon as his haters think he's starting to falter slightly he comes back with an almighty roar - I swear he must listen to Katy Perry every time before stepping onto the court! :p
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To be fair to his haters, it was mostly his fans who thought he was beginning to falter (you included). I know I went against quite a few of his fans post the Bjorn-match saying there was nothing whatsoever to worry about.

Congrats!
 
Chanwan said:
Well, once again Novak's opponent played below par and Novak raised his level for the final. A few thoughts

2) Novak's aura wins him matches. Opponent's hits more DF's, they go for too much at inopportune moments and they hit too many shots just outside of the lines
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#2 reminds me of Fed when he was dominating. Great observation/analysis. Thx.
 
ACE of Hearts said:
But fed's very predictable in the way he loses to novak. You can never trust wawrinka. This should be a bigger year for novak and his fans again.
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Anything shy of 3 slams should really be surprising at this stage. He's that far ahead/the rest are that far behind :eek:
I can trust Wawa in the slams - outside, not so much.
 
Chanwan said:
To be fair to his haters, it was mostly his fans who thought he was beginning to falter (you included). I know I went against quite a few of his fans post the Bjorn-match saying there was nothing whatsoever to worry about.

Congrats!
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Thanks Chanwan. Nice to see you're much quicker at responding to my posts on here than you are my PMs! ;)
 
its a pelicanfest in here.

the flyby of the Miami 28..in honour of Djokovic and tony montana (Miami based drug fiend, and pelican fancier).
 
Chanwan said:
Well, once again Novak's opponent played below par and Novak raised his level for the final. A few thoughts

1) Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully (@RSH - Bodo was right, I guess. He doesn't have enough power from behind the baseline, but because he plays so much inside in in his other matches, I hadn't quite noticed).
2) Novak's aura wins him matches. Opponent's hits more DF's, they go for too much at inopportune moments and they hit too many shots just outside of the lines
3) Novak's aura is so big that the opponent lacks belief stepping onto court. Nishi didn't look like a man who believed much in his chances despite starting wonderful in the first game. He could hardly hold serve throughout the match, his body language was slumping in the start of the second and he got broken and was DF'ing and spraying errors at the worst moments.
4) I would love for Novak to let loose earlier in the matches and play with the kind of freedom and abandon he did in the second part of the second set. He can hit stunning winners, when he's going for them. He just rarely needs to.
5) Novak's in a league of his own right now. Only Wawa and Fed on fast surfaces can truly take the game to him these days and belief in their own chances to do so. Everyone else has to hope for a bad day at the office for Novak - and even then, he still wins 90-95 % of the time :D

p.s. Why didn't Nishi try to mix up the rhythm for Novak at any point in time? No slices, hardly any approaches that weren't forced, too few body serves (which were quite effective when he hit them). Novak's loves baseline rhythm - surely, Nishi knows that by now, no?
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why do they play "below par" to use your words? because of their opponent. he's That good.
 
Chanwan said:
Well, once again Novak's opponent played below par and Novak raised his level for the final. A few thoughts

1) Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully (@RSH - Bodo was right, I guess. He doesn't have enough power from behind the baseline, but because he plays so much inside in in his other matches, I hadn't quite noticed).
2) Novak's aura wins him matches. Opponent's hits more DF's, they go for too much at inopportune moments and they hit too many shots just outside of the lines
3) Novak's aura is so big that the opponent lacks belief stepping onto court. Nishi didn't look like a man who believed much in his chances despite starting wonderful in the first game. He could hardly hold serve throughout the match, his body language was slumping in the start of the second and he got broken and was DF'ing and spraying errors at the worst moments.
4) I would love for Novak to let loose earlier in the matches and play with the kind of freedom and abandon he did in the second part of the second set. He can hit stunning winners, when he's going for them. He just rarely needs to.
5) Novak's in a league of his own right now. Only Wawa and Fed on fast surfaces can truly take the game to him these days and belief in their own chances to do so. Everyone else has to hope for a bad day at the office for Novak - and even then, he still wins 90-95 % of the time :D

p.s. Why didn't Nishi try to mix up the rhythm for Novak at any point in time. No slices, hardly any approaches that weren't forced, too few body serves (which were quite effective when he hit them).
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Because he turns into a complete jellyfish when he plays Djokovic. Result NID. This match-up should be prohibited in the future. Any time Kei makes it far enough into a tournament to play Djokovic, the match should be called off. Kei is a bum vs Djokovic. The USO win was his one shining moment against him.
 
Chanwan said:
Well, once again Novak's opponent played below par and Novak raised his level for the final. A few thoughts

1) Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully (@RSH - Bodo was right, I guess. He doesn't have enough power from behind the baseline, but because he plays so much inside in in his other matches, I hadn't quite noticed).
2) Novak's aura wins him matches. Opponent's hits more DF's, they go for too much at inopportune moments and they hit too many shots just outside of the lines
3) Novak's aura is so big that the opponent lacks belief stepping onto court. Nishi didn't look like a man who believed much in his chances despite starting wonderful in the first game. He could hardly hold serve throughout the match, his body language was slumping in the start of the second and he got broken and was DF'ing and spraying errors at the worst moments.
4) I would love for Novak to let loose earlier in the matches and play with the kind of freedom and abandon he did in the second part of the second set. He can hit stunning winners, when he's going for them. He just rarely needs to.
5) Novak's in a league of his own right now. Only Wawa and Fed on fast surfaces can truly take the game to him these days and belief in their own chances to do so. Everyone else has to hope for a bad day at the office for Novak - and even then, he still wins 90-95 % of the time :D

p.s. Why didn't Nishi try to mix up the rhythm for Novak at any point in time. No slices, hardly any approaches that weren't forced, too few body serves (which were quite effective when he hit them).
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All good. Except 4. Why would he change a winning formula? He knows when he's comfortable and ready to start ramping it up.

I find it ironic that Novak used the 'BH slice short to pull in Nishikori'. The opponents should be doing that to him. KN doesn't have the slice to do it; others do (Murray, Stan, Nadal, Fed).

All hail the King! Looking like a long run.
 
Chanwan said:
Well, once again Novak's opponent played below par and Novak raised his level for the final. A few thoughts

1) Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully (@RSH - Bodo was right, I guess. He doesn't have enough power from behind the baseline, but because he plays so much inside in in his other matches, I hadn't quite noticed).
2) Novak's aura wins him matches. Opponent's hits more DF's, they go for too much at inopportune moments and they hit too many shots just outside of the lines
3) Novak's aura is so big that the opponent lacks belief stepping onto court. Nishi didn't look like a man who believed much in his chances despite starting wonderful in the first game. He could hardly hold serve throughout the match, his body language was slumping in the start of the second and he got broken and was DF'ing and spraying errors at the worst moments.
4) I would love for Novak to let loose earlier in the matches and play with the kind of freedom and abandon he did in the second part of the second set. He can hit stunning winners, when he's going for them. He just rarely needs to.
5) Novak's in a league of his own right now. Only Wawa and Fed on fast surfaces can truly take the game to him these days and belief in their own chances to do so. Everyone else has to hope for a bad day at the office for Novak - and even then, he still wins 90-95 % of the time :D

p.s. Why didn't Nishi try to mix up the rhythm for Novak at any point in time. No slices, hardly any approaches that weren't forced, too few body serves (which were quite effective when he hit them).
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Fed on fast surfaces and Stan on slow. But we don't know the current level of both players. As for mixing it up, he should have tried to annoy Djokovic with dropshots few more times.
 
West Coast Ace said:
All good. Except 4. Why would he change a winning formula? He knows when he's comfortable and ready to start ramping it up.

I find it ironic that Novak used the 'BH slice short to pull in Nishikori'. The opponents should be doing that to him. KN doesn't have the slice to do it; others do (Murray, Stan, Nadal, Fed).

All hail the King! Looking like a long run.
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Cheers. I'm not saying he should, I'm saying I as a viewer would love to see that. That would make his dominance far more entertaining for me
And yeah, very ironic indeed - one of my favorite Fed play books, when he does that.

Novak actually talked about his net game not being quite perfect and natural in the interview, interesting points to hear him talk about it.
 
dunlop_fort_knox said:
why do they play "below par" to use your words? because of their opponent. he's That good.
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If you had read one line more, you would have read my point no. 1: "Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully"
The rest of the reasons were also related to that for that matter. His aura, remember? Or didn't you read that far?
Cheers
cc0509 said:
Because he turns into a complete jellyfish when he plays Djokovic. Result NID. This match-up should be prohibited in the future. Any time Kei makes it far enough into a tournament to play Djokovic, the match should be called off. Kei is a bum vs Djokovic. The USO win was his one shining moment against him.
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I'm all in for that, this was one match I didn't really need to see.
Can't say @MichaelNadal didn't warn us though ;)
 
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Chanwan said:
If you had read one line more, you would have read my point no. 1: "Novak's game doesn't allow his opponent to play their best most of the time. The depth of shot pushed Kei, who likes to take the ball inside the court, too far back to attack successfully"
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right but it's quite common for people to simply say "he played bad". the truth is the djokovic makes you play bad.
 
Djokovic going strong just as 2015 so far - winner of all three tier one events. Just one loss so far and that is when he had an eye infection.
 
Krish872007 said:
Like I said, MC draw is the gospel - stay tuned :cool:
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Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
Novak just delayed The Guru effect, no?
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It's outrageous really. Only a truly dominant no. 1 can delay the Guru effect.
Chanwan said:
This is where the Guru's training comes in handy. One MP saved. One to go. Novak's in trouble now. Nishi to win this in 3
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I guess I could have simply jinxed it too - sorry to all the non-Novak fans :oops::oops::oops:
dunlop_fort_knox said:
right but it's quite common for people to simply say "he played bad". the truth is the djokovic makes you play bad.
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What's your point exactly? Most people do it = I did it too? o_O

Despite me stating 5 reasons, all of which involved Novak's play, Novak's aura etc., which you apparently didn't care to read, cause you saw those two words "below par" and had to jump to his defense immediately without reading on? o_O:rolleyes:
Or?
 
cc0509 said:
Honestly, Djokovic may not have been at his absolute best vs Nishikori at that USO 2014 match but Nishikori was the much better player on that day. Don't take that away from Nishikori and make excuses about the heat, etc. That was a brilliant performance from Nishikori and it took Djokovic by surprise. The problem is that Djokovic is on to Nishikori now so Djokovic will be on high alert and it will be tough for Nishikori to pull off the same feat again unless superNishikori from the USO shows up.

You are hilarious. When Nishikori played Djokovic and beat him, Djokovic was at his absolute worst but when Nishikori beat Federer in Miami there is no mention from you about Federer being at his worst. Always sour grapes from you re Federer. You never disappoint
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Not my fault if the only 2 times Nishi beat Djoko, Novak happened to be down a hole. I'm the one being objective here. You, otoh, are a bona fide Djoko hater, which is such a shame because he's playing some brilliant tennis right now.
FACT: 2014 summer hard season was worst in Novak's top player career: didn't even reach quarter in his prep run to USO, worst summer showing and very uncharacteristic for him who is usually so consistent
FACT: the other Nishi win came at end of 2011 when Nole was struggling from injury and gassed from his first all out dominant season, was losing to everyone
FACT: Djoko is the superior player of the 2 (especially on hard), so if both play well, Novak wins (that is why he's leading Nishi 7-2 overall)
FACT: the fact that Djoko has a better record in Miami than Fed has nothing to do with my so-called "double standards". It has to do with the fact that Djokovic is better than Fed on medium paced surfaces (by far the superior returner) and has a better record there as well.

History of winter hard domination (ie AO/IW/MIAMI)
All 3 titles:
Djokovic: 3 times (including 2 consecutive): 2011, 2015, 2016
Federer/Agassi/Sampras: once (2006/2001/1994)

2 titles out of the 3:
Djokovic: 3 times (2008, 2012, 2014)
Fed, Agassi, Courier: twice (2004-05/ 1995-2003/ 1991-93)

And no, it's not because of "level of competition", loooooool. Novak is actually THAT good. Choke on it :p
 
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