Djokovic 2019 AO F vs Federer 2004 USO F - The stats comparison!

VaporDude95

Banned
You, me and hitman possibly belong to that very rare club, whose members were constantly saying that nadal wasn't that good, not been tested all week, 3rd set against birdman was the indication of what can happen against even a slightly better ball striker..
But we all were called haters and anti vamosians

Basically.

I remember harping on that 3rd set against birdman, saying that he reverted back to being passive and was under pressure the second Tomas started playing semi-decent tennis. And I was laughed at and ridiculed.

Turned out to be true, didn’t it?
 

mr tonyz

Professional
Again, nothing I said could lead you to this conclusion. You are reaching. Hear this: it's possible to believe as I do that Djokovic was greater than 50% against Medvedev AND was better still against Nadal. Regardless, there is a thing called "matchup" and I've seen nothing to indicate Medvedev would've matched up as well against Nadal as Djokovic does or that he would have equaled the level Djokovic did in the final. Stop putting words in my mouth.

As for the other stuff you said, I've shown you the Thomas Johansson quote and said all that could be said. You can believe what you want.

I watched the Djoker-Medvedev matchg & i thought it was the best match of the tournament. It was a tough match played under sweltering conditions .

I always hate it when people defend these ATGs with he was only playing 50% percent of his usual self , yeah right. If you did that to any ATG , they'd be lucky to have the capability to crack the top 100. The lines are so much smaller than most think when it comes to the best-of-the-best. Think about that , 50 % of a standard decent first serve percentage would drop from 60% to 30% for the match , 20 U/Es goes to 30 U/E , 30 winners gets halved to 15 & so on & so forth ...

It's always funny how we never pay the same respect to the lower ranked player when he gets thrashed by ATGs , but when an ATG struggles it never has anything to do with his lower ranked opponent on the day.

He wasn't playing well (not hitting deep , not hitting the lines etc) that day? I personally disagree , but let's just ignore that Maybe Djoker had a headache during the match that put him off , or maybe , just maybe it was the quality of his opponent that made Djoker's game look just a little underwealming that night.
 

Eren

Professional
We should compare Hewitt's performance vs. Sampras as well. Hewitt let Sampras win only 8 games (7-6 6-1 6-1). Sampras is much better on HC than Nadal for that matter.

Hewitt's performance in terms of games lost in a UO final is on par with Djok's vs. Nadal at AO '19.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
We should compare Hewitt's performance vs. Sampras as well. Hewitt let Sampras win only 8 games (7-6 6-1 6-1). Sampras is much better on HC than Nadal for that matter.

Hewitt's performance in terms of games lost in a UO final is on par with Djok's vs. Nadal at AO '19.

after the first set, I remember sampras going kamikaze against a very fast and attentive hewitt.
the result speaks for itself.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Similar sort of level. Nadal was poor off the ground but served a lot better than Hewitt, on the other hand Hewitt played better in the second set than Nadal did at any point - though Federer dropped his level quite sharply.
 

Eren

Professional
after the first set, I remember sampras going kamikaze against a very fast and attentive hewitt.
the result speaks for itself.

Obviously, none of Sampras Nadal or Hewitt played amazing as the results speak for itself. Sampras is just twice the player on HC that Nadal is which makes Hewitt's victory quite remarkable.
 

justasport

Professional
nole wins that match hands down...the best hardcourt match of all time would be the fed at iw 2017 vs djoker at ao 2019...now that could go either way imho
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
I did a little comparison between 2 Goat performances in the last 20 years on Hard Court.

Opponents:
2019 AO- Nadal
2004 USO - Hewitt

W/UE
Djokovic 2019 AO: 34 W/ 9 UE
Federer USO 2004: 38 W/ 29 UE

Dominance ratio:
Djokovic 2019 AO: DR 2.40
Federer USO 2004: DR 1.64

Serve Statistics:
Djokovic 2019 AO: First Serve In-72.5%; First Serve Won-80.0%; Second Serve Won-84.2%; BP saved-1/1; no lost serve;
Federer USO 2004: First Serve In-55.1% ; First Serve Won-77.6% ; Second Serve Won-55.0%; BP saved-5/6; lost serve once;
Deep stuff.
 
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