Djokovic(3)[3] VS Tsonga (11)[10] Part VI

Hefty Smurf(Tsonga) or Jokey Smurf(Djkovic)

  • Hefty(Tsonga) in 2

    Votes: 10 15.4%
  • Hefty(Tsonga) in 2

    Votes: 16 24.6%
  • Jokey(Djokovic) in 3

    Votes: 21 32.3%
  • Jokey(Djokovic) in 3

    Votes: 14 21.5%
  • Gargamel(Simon) and Azrael(Berdych) kill em during the match

    Votes: 4 6.2%

  • Total voters
    65

DarthFed

Hall of Fame
SMURF OFF

Tsonga is playing okay, and Nole seems to be as well Tsonga has the advantage in head to head but Nole won their first and most important meeting

And yes...those are real smurf names in the poll:twisted:



2009 Marseille France
Hard
S
Tsonga
6-4 7-6(1)

2008 Tennis Masters Cup China
Hard
RR
Tsonga
1-6 7-5 6-1


2008 ATP Masters Series Paris France
Hard
R16
Tsonga
6-4 1-6 6-3


2008 Bangkok Thailand
Hard
F
Tsonga
7-6(4) 6-4


2008 Australian Open Australia
Hard
F
Djokovic
4-6 6-4 6-3
 
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Djokovic in 3.... Tsonga still hasn't found the balance for controlled aggression in his game.

Novak's been serving well this tournament as well, i can't see it being anything less than a Djokovic win.

Wouldn't be suprised if it was done it straight sets.
 

DarthFed

Hall of Fame
Crap i messed up on the poll i copy+pasted and forgot to edit it

It should read

Tsonga in 2
" " 3
Nole in 2
" " 3
 

CocaCola

Professional
You wrote Tsonga in 2 and Djoko in 3 double time...I voted 3rd option...I supose it means Djokovic in 2.
 

ruerooo

Legend
Can't call it yet, I don't think -- have to see whether the Djoker is actually going to play another actual match again today, as opposed to go through the motions.

Tsonga is playing okay, and Nole seems to be as well Tsonga has the advantage in head to head but Nole won their first and most important meating
*whispers* "meeting"
And yes...those are real smurf names in the poll:twisted:
*frets for the fate of the universe*

SMURF SHOES
 

DarthFed

Hall of Fame
Can't call it yet, I don't think -- have to see whether the Djoker is actually going to play another actual match again today, as opposed to go through the motions.


*whispers* "meeting"

*frets for the fate of the universe*

SMURF SHOES

My brain tends to go off on non-school days, especially when its a tennis filled day like this

Thanks i've corrected it, shame about the poll though
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I like this matchup. Should be entertaining. I'll go with Djoker in 3.

2 points I'd like to make:

(1) Djokovic seems to be the great forgotten player: He hasn't lived up to his AO title and seems to have dropped off as others, most notably Murray, have ascended. Add to this his image as a sometimes-quitter and I think collectively a lot of people have prematurely written him off. I'm not saying he's going to be the GOAT, but he's extremely talented and I think he will catch fire again before he is out of his prime.


(2) Tsonga. I think we're starting to see what Tsonga's career will look like for the next couple years if he avoids serious injury. His upside is tremendous. A good athlete with all the shots. Can come to net, can play well from the baseline, can win free points off of his serve. He's one of those players whose top level (like Nalbandian) is incredibly high and actually rivals that of the top players. So, he will always be a threat to upset a top player and/or to catch fire for a week or two and win a tournament. He defintely has the game to win a Slam. Not saying he will do it, but he has the potential.

BUT, the problem, as with a lot of players, is his non-top level. It seems more and more apparent, that he will continue to be streaky and he will get frustrated by people who he can't hit through with ease. Coming off being a finalist at the AO, some people posited that his loss to Verdasco at the AO was a "bad" loss. But, he played fine. Versasco simply stayed in the points and Tsonga could not consistently hit through him, which frustrated him. Add to that Verdaco's own firepower and there is very clear path to beating Tsonga. Same thing with Andreev at IW (though, in all fairness, Tsonga did actually play pretty bad in much of that match).

So, Tsonga doesn't strike me as someone who will consistently be playing the top 3 in the QFs and SFs of Slams. He strikes me as someone who will lose in the 3rd round one Slam, make the SFs the next, lose in the 4th Round, and then make the QFs. Barring injury, he'll have a Tommy Haas type career (though he may usurp Haas by actually winning a Slam) - always a threat, capable of beating anyone on a given day, always fun to watch, but usually not quite going all the way at the biggest events.
 
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Gru

New User
I think Djokovic might do it this time - and not just Tsonga, but all the way.

1. His serve has been good in Miami, which makes a huge difference
2. He has been playing a bit smarter compared to the start of the year
3. Most importantly - his whole family is there, supporting him ;)
 

bolo

G.O.A.T.
I like this matchup. Should be entertaining. I'll go with Djoker in 3.

2 points I'd like to make:

(1) Djokovic seems to be the great forgotten player: He hasn't lived up to his AO title and seems to have dropped off as others, most notably Murray, have ascended. Add to this his image as a sometimes-quitter and I think collectively a lot of people have prematurely written him off. I'm not saying he's going to be the GOAT, but he's extremely talented and I think he will catch fire again before he is out of his prime.


(2) Tsonga. I think we're starting to see what Tsonga's career will look like for the next couple years if he avoids serious injury. His upside is tremendous. A good athlete with all the shots. Can come to net, can play well from the baseline, can win free points off of his serve. He's one of those players whose top level (like Nalbandian) is incredibly high and actually rivals that of the top players. So, he will always be a threat to upset a top player and/or to catch fire for a week or two and win a tournament. He defintely has the game to win a Slam. Not saying he will do it, but he has the potential.

BUT, the problem, as with a lot of players, is his non-top level. It seems more and more apparent, that he will continue to be streaky and he will get frustrated by people who he can't hit through with ease. Coming off being a finalist at the AO, some people posited that his loss to Verdasco at the AO was a "bad" loss. But, he played fine. Versasco simply stayed in the points and Tsonga could not consistently hit through him, which frustrated him. Add to that Verdaco's own firepower and there is very clear path to beating Tsonga. Same thing with Andreev at IW (though, in all fairness, Tsonga did actually play pretty bad in much of that match).

So, Tsonga doesn't strike me as someone who will consistently be playing the top 3 in the QFs and SFs of Slams. He strikes me as someone who will lose in the 3rd round one Slam, make the SFs the next, lose in the 4th Round, and then make the QFs. Barring injury, he'll have a Tommy Haas type career (though he may usurp Haas by actually winning a Slam) - always a threat, capable of beating anyone on a given day, always fun to watch, but usually not quite going all the way at the biggest events.

good post. Although I think tsonga is more talented than haas, just has a lot more firepower from everywhere and is just more driven. I always thought Haas was a talented guy who wasn't always in the best physical shape until late in his career.
 
Jo THE WILFRIED TSONGA as I CALL HIM THE blazing FRECHMAN is going to overthrow the Young serb and blow away the lil jabroni into outer space.
 

edberg505

Legend
This is a tough call. Tsonga is one of my favourite players so I want to see him win. On the other hand, I'd like to see Djokovic win because he needs a confidence boost. Should be a good one either way.
 

GameSampras

Banned
Djoker is playing some good tennis finally.. Djoker in 3. Tsonga still hasnt gotten over threshold in being a major player at this point in time
 

Ripster

Hall of Fame
Tsonga leads the H2H but a lot of those matches were extremely close and Djokovic took the most important one - the AO final.

Djokovic hasn't come close to losing a set this tournament and Tsonga hasn't been overly impressive. Djokovic in 3 sets.
 

edberg505

Legend
Tsonga leads the H2H but a lot of those matches were extremely close and Djokovic took the most important one - the AO final.

Djokovic hasn't come close to losing a set this tournament and Tsonga hasn't been overly impressive. Djokovic in 3 sets.

Well he did beat Calleri like a drum. Gave him a couple of candle sticks in fact. And today once he dropped that first set he came out swinging with a vengeance in the next two. Not an easy feat against the human wall, Simon.
 

ruerooo

Legend
And today once he dropped that first set he came out swinging with a vengeance in the next two. Not an easy feat against the human wall, Simon.

I would say that pretty much covers it. (That and wanting revenge for that final, post-surgery and all.)

Plus there's no "I'm beating a fellow Frenchman" in the back of his head now even subconsciously, so all gloves are going to be pretty much off.

LOL at "the human wall". :lol: I called it for Tsonga in 3 if he was on, but only if he was on, b/c otherwise "Sneaky" Simon will take the match from you and you will be left wondering where it went.
 

ruerooo

Legend
I'm going to vote for Jo Wil over the Smurf in 3 (called it for him today!), even though the Djoker has clearly showed up to play and not just to show off his new shoes.

JWT is ahead in their H2H and he can win if he brings his whole brain and doesn't give himself lobotomies during changeovers -- or at the net, for that matter.

Allez!!
 

Blinkism

Legend
Tsonga takes a tight first set, Djokovic takes an easy second set, and Djokovic takes a very tight third set in a tiebreaker.

N. Djokovic def. J. Tsonga 4-6, 6-2, 7-6(4)

Oops... I forgot **SPOILER ALERT**!!!
 

Telepatic

Legend
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SikSerb

Hall of Fame

Lol... Gotta love the raw pic editing on paint.

Nole better take out Tsonga, cant believe the amount of times hes lost to him now. Their matches usually go the distance, but because of a feeling I have im saying Nole in straight sets. Djokovic must feel confident he can win having his family there watching for the first time since last year. Ajde Nole.
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
no offense to those supporting joker, but why do you think he'll win? I'm not saying he won't but all the people voting for him are citing very general reasons.

these reasons were all the same last 4 times they played. what in both players game this week indicates a Djoko win for you? I think they are both playing at 70% or so, so I don't see why the trend would change.
 

bolo

G.O.A.T.
no offense to those supporting joker, but why do you think he'll win? I'm not saying he won't but all the people voting for him are citing very general reasons.

these reasons were all the same last 4 times they played. what in both players game this week indicates a Djoko win for you? I think they are both playing at 70% or so, so I don't see why the trend would change.

4 matches is a trend? :)

But you have a point, djokovic seems to be falling generally and tsonganator is rising. But djokovic is still ahead of tsonga in the rankings and has been at the top of the hard courts for a much longer time. Tsonga has more flash, and I like him, but djokovic will stay ahead of him imo.
 
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