NoleFam
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Congrats to them both.
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Djokovic and Halep are the 2018 ITF world champions.
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mike danny
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Delete. Huge brainfart.
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WhiskeyEE
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Halep isn't slavic.
Enceladus
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Romanians belong to the Roman nations, which are, for example, Italians or Spaniards.
Phoenix1983
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Novak Djokovic equals Sampras as the man with the most YE ITF No 1's.
WhiskeyEE
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The Romanian language however is very different from those languages apparently. It is much more archaic and has 3 genders and the case system like Latin did. You can't learn it in 2 weeks like you can Spanish.
Enceladus
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The ITF prize was also awarded to the best pairs in doubles, namely M.Bryan+Sock and Krejcikova+Siniakova.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Kvitova was the ITF World Champion in 2011 along with Djokovic even though she was ranked #2
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
The Romanian language is part of the Romance family but it has a heavy Slavic influence
I can read any Romance language and understand a good deal of it, but not Romanian
WhiskeyEE
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It's not just the slavic influence that makes it different. The grammar is archaic and more similar to old Latin than the western Romance languages.
It's analogous to Dutch/Swedish/Norwegian/Danish vs German. Dutch and the Scandinavian languages have been simplified (like English and the western Romance languages) whereas German is more similar to old German with 3 genders and the case system.
Having learned a bit of French, Spanish, and Italian I can definitely see how Italian overlaps with both quite well (with French and Spanish being more distinct from each other), but Romanian does appear to be quite different.
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mike danny
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Oops, damn, huge brainfart.
Im(moral) Winner
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Krish872007
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mike danny
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Enceladus
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ITF champion is a tennis player who has achieved the highest number of points in GS tournaments (in the given season). E.g. therefore Djoker won ITF prize in 2013, although Nadal gained position YE1 and similar prize from ATP.
RaulRamirez
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Re-read your opening sentence and you'll get it
It's been a lonnnng year?
jm1980
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Murray was the ITF world champion in 2016 even though Djokovic had more points from GS:
Murray: F - F - W - QF = 1200 + 1200 + 2000 + 360 = 4760
Djokovic: W - W - 3R - F = 2000 + 2000 + 90 + 1200 = 5290
Another counterexample is the women's ITF champion in 2017 Muguruza ending up with fewer points than Venus:
Muguruza: QF - 4R - W - 4R = 430 + 240 + 2000 + 240 = 2910
V. Williams: F - 4R - F - SF = 1300 + 240 + 1300 + 780 = 3620
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Luka888
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Too funny. People are discussing nationalities here, . Why does it matter if Halep is Slavic or Martian?. Give me a break. Is Zverev German or Russian? Well, it depends how you look at it.
Djokovic could be a Brit if he had accepted their citizenship back then ... no? Fed could an African, whatever ...
The ITF award ... well google it. It's not too hard. Congrats to both players btw.
However, the ITF is in control of majors, DC. I'm surprised there is no thread about the Olympics and all of that BS going on with 'a new DC' that almost all players are against.
You have to play DC in order to qualify for the Olympics. Why? However, there is a way around that rule too. It just depends who you are.
I know, I spiced up this thread too .... Nothing makes sense nowadays. There you go.
. Why does it matter if Halep is Slavic or Martian?. Give me a break. Is Zverev German or Russian? Well, it depends how you look at it. Djokovic could be a Brit if he had accepted their citizenship back then ... no? Fed could an African, whatever ...
The ITF award ... well google it. It's not too hard. Congrats to both players btw.
However, the ITF is in control of majors, DC. I'm surprised there is no thread about the Olympics and all of that BS going on with 'a new DC' that almost all players are against.
You have to play DC in order to qualify for the Olympics. Why? However, there is a way around that rule too. It just depends who you are.
I know, I spiced up this thread too ...
. Nothing makes sense nowadays. There you go.
True Fanerer
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Federer was the moral ITF World Champion in 2017. Might as well say he has 6 too.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
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Murray vs Djokovic case probably due to Davis Cup points participation.
Muguruza vs Williams was due to Venus didn't win any slam while Muguruza win one.
Serena W - NA - NA - NA = 2000
Ostapenko 3R - W -QF - 3R = 130 + 2000 + 430 + 130 = 2690
Muguruza: QF - 4R - W - 4R = 430 + 240 + 2000 + 240 = 2910
Stephens: NA - NA - 1R - W = 10 + 2000 = 2010
Thank God Ostapenko didn't win that year tho.
Mainad
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The ITF takes performance in all the events it organises into account. In addition to the Slams this includes Davis Cup, Federation Cup and the Olympics. Murray as the Olympic champion in 2016 may well have counterbalanced the fact that he won 1 less Slam than Djokovic.
tennisaddict
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Still annoyed Rafa was not given the ITF champion award winning 2 of the majors in 2013 - what a freakin awesome comeback that was.
Djokovic and Murray won 1 each. Djokovic got award because Nadal was injured and could not play AO
Djokovic and Murray won 1 each. Djokovic got award because Nadal was injured and could not play AO
Sport
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Yeah, I remember that year Djokovic won 1 GS and Nadal 2 GS.
Nadal_Django
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Djokovic now along with Sampras as 6 time World Champion. If not for that crazy Murray run in 2016 now he would have been a 7 time World Champion. Crazy domination of the sport...
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Chadalina
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I thought the world champ was sasha, he won the wtf.
Sport
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Still Djokovic has 5 ATP year ending #1. However, he still can surpass Sampras since he is very close to his 6 Year Ending #1 record.Djokovic now along with Sampras as 6 time World Champion. If not for that crazy Murray run in 2016 now he would have been a 7 time World Champion. Crazy domination of the sport...
Sport
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Djokovic won it fairly. Apparently, the ITF gives the ITF Player of the year trophy to the player with more points won overall in Grand Slams. Even if Djokovic won less Grand Slams than Nadal in 2013, he accumulated more points overall due to more GS finals played. So he won it fairly.
Fiero425
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It happens! I seem to remember Nole was #1 for the ITF even though Nadal officially #1 on the ATP back in 2013!
Fiero425
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Unless he reinjures himself, IDK how he won't hold #1 for a while since he has so few points to defend early on! He should clean up even if he doesn't win much!
Fiero425
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That early exit at Wimbledon didn't help Rafa! The ITF must pay attention to that; all those GS points!
RaulRamirez
Legend
Unless he reinjures himself, IDK how he won't hold #1 for a while since he has so few points to defend early on! He should clean up even if he doesn't win much!
As far as defending points and weeks at #1 - yes. But of course, by the end of the year, it's only about the comparative points he earns that year. I've always valued year-end more than weeks, though not all agree.
tennisaddict
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There are examples where player with higher points did not get the No 1
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