Djokovic and Nadals draw for RG

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 Nadal

R1 - Zverev
R2 - Goffin
R3 - Griekspoor/McDonald
R4 - Rune/Khachanov QF - Medvedev/De Minaur
SF - Djokovic/Ruud/Fritz
F - Sinner/Alcaraz

Djokovic
R1 - Herbert
R2 - Carballes Baena/Lestienne
R3 - Musetti/Monfils/Seyboth Wild
R4 - Cerundolo/Paul
QF - Ruud/Fritz
SFZverev/Medvedev/Rune/Nadal
F - Sinner/Alcaraz
 
RF-18 said:
 Nadal

R1 - Zverev
R2 - Goffin
R3 - Griekspoor/McDonald
R4 - Rune/Khachanov QF - Medvedev/De Minaur
SF - Djokovic/Ruud/Fritz
F - Sinner/Alcaraz

Djokovic
R1 - Herbert
R2 - Carballes Baena/Lestienne
R3 - Musetti/Monfils/Seyboth Wild
R4 - Cerundolo/Paul
QF - Ruud/Fritz
SFZverev/Medvedev/Rune/Nadal
F - Sinner/Alcaraz
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Good draw for Djokovic is my initial thought...Or maybe not?!
 
If (it’s a big IF) Nadal beats Zverev, the draw opens up for him a bit.

Djoker’s draw is precisely why I still have him as favourite for RG, you can’t tell me he won’t play himself into form over those matches
 
jl809 said:
If (it’s a big IF) Nadal beats Zverev, the draw opens up for him a bit.

Djoker’s draw is precisely why I still have him as favourite for RG, you can’t tell me he won’t play himself into form over those matches
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What are you even talking about. What draw opening?

Nadal played 3 hr match vs someone and then lehecka beat him in straight sets. His only chance was getting early matches very easy.

Now if Nadal really does a miracle, nothing less, and beats Zverev, it would be 4+ hrs match easily.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
What are you even talking about. What draw opening?

Nadal played 3 hr match vs someone and then lehecka beat him in straight sets. His only chance was getting early matches very easy.

Now if Nadal really does a miracle, nothing less, and beats Zverev, it would be 4+ hrs match easily.
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Nadal's issue is going to be endurance, the Zverev match is going to take a lot out of him, and it will be just the first match. And each match, he will play a minimum of three sets. He could be running into Rune in the fourth round, and a possible showdown in the semis awaits...with Sinner or Alcaraz in the final.
 
Hitman said:
Nadal's issue is going to be endurance, the Zverev match is going to take a lot out of him, and it will be just the first match. And each match, he will play a minimum of three sets. He could be running into Rune in the fourth round, and a possible showdown in the semis awaits...with Sinner or Alcaraz in the final.
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Why are we even talking second round. How on earth can Nadal beat zverev.

Nadal's serve sucks. Movement sucks. His stamina sucks.

Zverev is holding like it's grass.
 
Kralingen said:
I feel like Musetti is a relatively tough 3rd round, but beyond that it's smoooooth sailing. Won't even be tested before the final, at all.
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Musetti will be tough, should that match, no question.

It's not that straightforward for Djokovic, he is still trying to find his form in Geneva.
 
i just wanna see strong' reaction and that moment.. he will chime in about the draw, haha
 
if zverev serves like in rome, nadal will be out in straights. Even Griekspoor would blast him off the court. he is not defending the corners as well anymore.
 
Nadal won’t last past the first round and djoker will be out by the third round of quarters at latest . Hopefully they both retire at the end of the year at the same time
 
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fafa said:
Easy draw for Nadal except for R1.
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Rune is a not an easy 4th round, considering how well he plays on clay when he is on.

Nadal would likely need to beat Zverev and Rune, just to get to the quarters. That will take quite a bit out of him.
 
Hitman said:
Nadal's issue is going to be endurance, the Zverev match is going to take a lot out of him, and it will be just the first match. And each match, he will play a minimum of three sets. He could be running into Rune in the fourth round, and a possible showdown in the semis awaits...with Sinner or Alcaraz in the final.
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i think it may be a worse draw to sasha
rafa would try his best and cannot play safe at the match
 
darthrafa said:
i think it may be a worse draw to sasha
rafa would try his best and cannot play safe at the match
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Of course playing Nadal is bad for anyone at RG. LOL - It's freaking Nadal. :D

But Zverev will have a chance to catch Nadal while he is in form coming off a win in Rome, while Nadal would not have played a competitive match since 2nd round of Rome. A third round match between them would be potentially harder, as Nadal would have settled in more and have more match play.
 
2008 Nadal would blast through this draw without dropping a set...

2024 Nadal will blast through this draw without winning a set...
 
Kralingen said:
Djokovic’s draw might be the easiest road to an RG final in the history of tennis
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It's not hard, but if the seeds pan out, then it will be far from the easiest. That would be either 1999 Agassi or 1986 Lendl's runs. Lendl played no one in the top 10 and his toughest opponent was #12 Andres Gomez in the quarterfinal. Lendl faced #27 Pernfors in the final!

Krish0608 said:
If Rafa clears Z he is reaching Novak for sure. But that's a BIG IF though.
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Certainly not for sure. Griekspoor or McDonald would be plenty tough for current Nadal in the 3rd round. Nadal is possibly playing worse now than when McDonald straight-setted him at the 2023 AO. Granted that's not clay, but that was straight sets.
 
Hitman said:
It's not the same Djokovic either...
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Musetti has taken a much bigger tumble IMO

And he never won a Slam. He doesn't know what it takes to find that level bc he never has. But Djoko has dug deep 24 times and counting. Musetti goes down in straights if he even makes it that far
 
Rosstour said:
Musetti has taken a much bigger tumble IMO

And he never won a Slam. He doesn't know what it takes to find that level bc he never has. But Djoko has dug deep 24 times and counting. Musetti goes down in straights if he even makes it that far
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I agree that Musetti hasn't played well in recent times. But Djokovic needs to show me something solid in Geneva first, to show he can take on multiple clay court players.
 
Surprising that they put (yet again) Nadal and Djokovic on the same side of the draw. Since 2021 onwards, when they included night sessions, they've placed their potential meetings before the final, thus virtually forcing them to play in noght conditions.

Nadal got the hardest 1R possible. Consequences of being ranked outside the top 300. As for Novak, good draw. Not the easiest possible, but almost. Ruud in the QF could be tough, depending on Ruud's health. I believe Ruud has some back issues. If Ruud doesn't reach the QF, Novak's path will be quite smootj till the SF.
 
Sport said:
Surprising that they put (yet again) Nadal and Djokovic on the same side of the draw. Since 2021 onwards, when they included night sessions, they've placed their potential meetings before the final, thus virtually forcing them to play in noght conditions.

Nadal got the hardest 1R possible. Consequences of being ranked outside the top 300. As for Novak, good draw. Not the easiest possible, but almost. Ruud in the QF could be tough, depending on Ruud's health. I believe Ruud has some back issues. If Ruud doesn't reach the QF, Novak's path will be quite smootj till the SF.
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They could put rafole in r1. Don't you worry about Novak for now.

What you have is just 2 years evidence. 2021 and 2022. Nothing else.
 
zvelf said:
It's not hard, but if the seeds pan out, then it will be far from the easiest. That would be either 1999 Agassi or 1986 Lendl's runs. Lendl played no one in the top 10 and his toughest opponent was #12 Andres Gomez in the quarterfinal. Lendl faced #27 Pernfors in the final!

Certainly not for sure. Griekspoor or McDonald would be plenty tough for current Nadal in the 3rd round. Nadal is possibly playing worse now than when McDonald straight-setted him at the 2023 AO. Granted that's not clay, but that was straight sets.
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If he’s at a level where he can beat Zverev he’s losing to tier 2-3 players.
 
Sport said:
Surprising that they put (yet again) Nadal and Djokovic on the same side of the draw. Since 2021 onwards, when they included night sessions, they've placed their potential meetings before the final, thus virtually forcing them to play in noght conditions.

Nadal got the hardest 1R possible. Consequences of being ranked outside the top 300. As for Novak, good draw. Not the easiest possible, but almost. Ruud in the QF could be tough, depending on Ruud's health. I believe Ruud has some back issues. If Ruud doesn't reach the QF, Novak's path will be quite smootj till the SF.
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After seeing first round i didn't worry about this. I'm very well aware they do this all the time. They even put them to play QF when it is possible. Why night match again? Last year Alcaraz Djokovic match was day match. If this match somehow happens it should be played in day match or whatever Nadal request. Considering the choice made 2 year in a row by organizers.
 
Looks like Nadal will be out in Round 1

I dont think he can take out Zverev :rolleyes:

Anyway, at this point if Nadal wins R1 then he can progress to week 2 if his body holds @Hitman .... whats your prediction for Nadal ?
 
Rattie said:
So? He rarely gets players considered a threat in early rounds. Happens all the time. Oh well, a LL took him out recently so you never know, hopefully he will suffer a shock defeat again.
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Just because Nadal is done and dusted doesn't mean Novak will suffer shock defeats.

Djokovic will lift the title if Alcaraz does not reach the final.... even Sinner cannot stop him.... no one can.
 
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